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OnWis97 said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?
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Lerxst1992 said:OnWis97 said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?0
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2023Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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2023Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?
but he ain't gonna win."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
The fieldLerxst1992 said:OnWis97 said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?
Every time something like this happens, he's going to become more and popular. His presidency is going to be 100% about revenge. And all the "America loving" JD Vances in power will join him.Post edited by OnWis97 on1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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The fieldJudge Engoron will die in prison.
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Charlie Kirk is a major toolbag, but is he right? About shit like this making Trump more popular and powerful? Trump's a career criminal but it's only recent that he's been under legal scrutiny. I'd guess more than just MAGA sees this as "weaponizing the judicial system."Post edited by OnWis97 on1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:OnWis97 said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?
for real, IDK what happens if he wins. All I can say is no nations government is permanent, he made a real attempt to overthrow an election including having innocents killed that day, and he got nearly 45% of the country (and counting) to think that it’s no big deal…
and Biden is looking weaker than ever now, in the polls and on camera.
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Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?He wins and Pearl Jam, me you and most on AMT probably end up in work camps.
He literally said tonight “if we lose the appeal, NYS is gone.”0 -
Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:OnWis97 said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?
for real, IDK what happens if he wins. All I can say is no nations government is permanent, he made a real attempt to overthrow an election including having innocents killed that day, and he got nearly 45% of the country (and counting) to think that it’s no big deal…
and Biden is looking weaker than ever now, in the polls and on camera.0 -
mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:OnWis97 said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?
for real, IDK what happens if he wins. All I can say is no nations government is permanent, he made a real attempt to overthrow an election including having innocents killed that day, and he got nearly 45% of the country (and counting) to think that it’s no big deal…
and Biden is looking weaker than ever now, in the polls and on camera.Yea but November is very close and as he claims “Biden can’t put two sentences together.” The majority of Americans will probably believe that. An authoritarian leader can move very swiftly.0 -
The fieldmrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:OnWis97 said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?
for real, IDK what happens if he wins. All I can say is no nations government is permanent, he made a real attempt to overthrow an election including having innocents killed that day, and he got nearly 45% of the country (and counting) to think that it’s no big deal…
and Biden is looking weaker than ever now, in the polls and on camera.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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2023mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:OnWis97 said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?
for real, IDK what happens if he wins. All I can say is no nations government is permanent, he made a real attempt to overthrow an election including having innocents killed that day, and he got nearly 45% of the country (and counting) to think that it’s no big deal…
and Biden is looking weaker than ever now, in the polls and on camera.
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Eric Trump
Eric Trump joined the Trump Organization right after college in 2006. TT 3285. From the time he became an executive vice president in 2014, until Donald Trump assumed the presidency in January 2017, the hierarchy of the Trump Organization was like a pyramid, with Donald Trump at the top. TT 3286. During this period, Eric Trump reported directly to his father. TT 3287.
In early 2016, at the request of “one of the three children” 17 (referring to Donald Trump’s three adult children), Patrick Birney created and distributed to Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, and Donald Trump, Jr. a “Trump Organization Operating Financial Summary 2015” to keep them informed of the performance of the business. PX 1293; TT 1181-1186. Allen Weisselberg affirmed that he was directed to advise Eric, Ivanka, and Trump, Jr. of the performance of the business “as Mr. Trump had now become president,” “[t]hey wanted to be knowledgeable about the running of the business… [s]o [in] 2016, he was in the process of running for president and they wanted to get up to speed on how the business was operating.” TT 1185-1186.
Beginning in January 2017, Eric Trump, Trump, Jr. and Weisselberg ran the day-to-day operations of the Trump Organization. TT 3288. Eric Trump confirmed that beginning in January 2017, he did not report to anyone, although he confirmed that post-presidency, he resumed following his father’s directives. TT 3289.
Eric Trump became involved in the Seven Springs project in 2012. TT 3289-3290. He testified that “I never had anything to do with the Statement of Financial Condition.” TT 3292. However, McConney’s supporting spreadsheets from 2012-2014 indicate that he relied on Eric Trump for the valuations of Seven Springs, which were inflated to $161 million for the undeveloped seven mansions, far more than the $21 million appraised value, of which Eric Trump was aware. PX 793, 708, 719.
Eric Trump’s credibility was severely damaged when he repeatedly denied knowing that his father ever even compiled an SFC that valued his assets and showed his net worth “until this case came into fruition.” Upon being confronted with copious documentary evidence conclusively demonstrating otherwise, he finally conceded that, at least as early as August 20, 2013, he knew about his father’s SFCs (begrudgingly acknowledging: “It appears that way, yes”). TT 3292- 3294, 3300-3304, 3307-3316, 3319-3336; PX 1071, 1079, 1112, 1113, 1075, 3333, 1091, 1265, 3332.
Moreover, emails indicate that contrary to Eric Trump’s testimony, McConney relied on Eric Trump for the $161 million valuation of the undeveloped seven-mansion plot at Seven Springs, from 2012-2014. PX 1075. In particular, an August 20, 2013 email from Jeff McConney to Eric Trump, with the subject “Seven Springs,” reads: “Hi Eric, I’m working on your Dads [sic] annual financial statement. I need to value Seven Springs. Attached please find how we valued it last year. Can you let me know when you have time to talk about this year’s valuation? Thanks Jeff.” PX 1075. When the documentary evidence against him became overwhelming, Eric Trump reversed his previous testimony:
Q. It is correct that when you received this e-mail in August of 2013, you understood that your father had an annual financial statement and you understood that Mr. McConney was asking you for information specifically to assist him in working on the notes to the annual financial statement; isn’t that correct?
A. Yes.
Although Eric Trump advised McConney in August 2013 to continue to use the $161 million value for the proposed seven-mansion development at Seven Springs, emails demonstrate that Eric Trump was aware of a valuation by a professional appraiser, engaged by the Trump Organization, who valued the hypothetical development at approximately $5.5 million. PX 908, 3296; TT 3342-3349.
By September 8, 2014, a mere four days before Eric Trump advised McConney to continue using $161 million as the value for the seven-mansion development in the 2014 SFC, David McArdle of Cushman & Wakefield had completed an appraisal for the property and delivered a verbal estimate to Eric Trump of $14 million. PX 169, 181, 3331; TT 3349-3354. Eric Trump’s testimony that he had very limited involvement in the appraisal work that McArdle performed on Seven Springs and Briarcliff was shown to be false when he was confronted with the ample contemporaneous documentary evidence demonstrating otherwise. PX 133, 1074, 3206, 3327, 3207, 3189, 3190, 3328, 3195, 3196, 3204, 3202, 3201; TT 3360-3364, 3367-3381, 3383-3385, 3427-3432.
He unconvincingly tried to distance himself from this evidence, asserting that he was not focused on it because, “I am a construction guy.” TT 3385. Despite retaining McArdle in August 2013 to value the proposed 71-units at Briarcliff, and receiving a professional appraised value of $45 million, Eric Trump directed McConney to value the proposed units at over $101 million in the 2014-2018 SFCs. PX 719, 742, 758, 843; TT 3378-3379.
In 2020, Eric Trump, as attorney-in-fact for his father, signed three certifications based on the SFCs and sent to Deutsche Bank to satisfy obligations for the Trump Chicago, Doral, and Old Post Office loans. PX 518. TT 3434-3438. In 2021, again as attorney-in-fact for his father, Eric Trump signed two certifications based on that year’s SFC, and sent them to Deutsche Bank to satisfy obligations under the Doral and Old Post Office loans. PX 517; TT 3438-3442.
When questioned about his knowledge and involvement in valuing Mar-a-Lago, Eric Trump adamantly maintained that it was appropriate to value Mar-a-Lago as a private residence, even though it was being taxed as a commercial club and the deed prohibited, in perpetuity, use of it as anything other than a social club. TT 3445-3451; PX 1013.
When confronted with Patrick Birney’s testimony that Eric Trump and Trump, Jr. participated in a video conference call in fall 2021 to discuss the preparation of the 2021 SFC, Eric Trump acknowledged that he would have “no reason to doubt Pat.” TT 3385-3391.
Eric Trump, on behalf of the Trump Organization, signed Allen Weisselberg’s separation agreement, in which, in exchange for $2 million in installment payments, Allen Weisselberg agreed, inter alia, not to disparage or criticize the Trump Organization or its current or former employees, and not to cooperate voluntarily with law enforcement or anyone with adverse legal claims to the Trump Organization unless compelled to by a court. PX 1751; TT 3451-3457.
Eric Trump took responsibility for negotiating the terms of the separation agreement. TT 3457.
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2023mickeyrat said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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2023Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?He wins and Pearl Jam, me you and most on AMT probably end up in work camps.
He literally said tonight “if we lose the appeal, NYS is gone.”"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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2023OnWis97 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:OnWis97 said:Lerxst1992 said:he wins the election, then what? Engoron and Cohen winds up like Navalny and trump seizes control of Fort Knox and the fed bank in NY?
for real, IDK what happens if he wins. All I can say is no nations government is permanent, he made a real attempt to overthrow an election including having innocents killed that day, and he got nearly 45% of the country (and counting) to think that it’s no big deal…
and Biden is looking weaker than ever now, in the polls and on camera."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0
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