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Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.oh it goes back to Reagan. He offered amnesty with the provision congress would reform the system. they never did. its been a boogieman ever since.My belief is the "Pro-business" party needs to look out for their cronies and have that steady supply of Highly exploitable undocumented labor._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.hippiemom = goodness0 -
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.
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The pandemic lowered crime for the first half of the year. It is not disingenuous to think the civil unrest, protests, increased distrust in police, demand for police defunding, etc that was going on in the summer likely played a bigger role in the increase of crime that the pandemic which lowered crime for the first half of the year. Millions of people did lose their jobs and were isolated, that doesn't mean the civil unrest in the summer didn't happen though. The drop of crime aligns with the shut down, the rise in crime aligns with the protests. It's not disingenuous to point that out. The pandemic caused many things. Loss of jobs, financial hardships, depression, isolation, deaths, anxiety. Crime just wasn't one of them. At least not at the beginning, and not until there was a lot of other things already going on that also contributed to crime.The Juggler said:"What was going on in the summer of 2020 that made crime spike again? You think it was all the pandemic still, the thing that dropped crime suddenly made crime spike?"
MILLIONS of people lost their jobs. MILLIONS of people were isolated from their friends, families and co-workers.
Saying a once in a lifetime pandemic that completely altered the face of the planet for multiple years only "probably" played a role is disingenuous to me. I'm sorry. It just is.
Ignoring the fact that crime is now decreasing, albeit not at the rate any of us would like...seems disingenuous as well.
And ignoring the fact that republicans had a chance TODAY to solve, or at least put a big dent, the border problem also seems disingenuous. to me.
We were talking about crime in relation to loosened bail laws, so I didn't comment on the bill. I have no doubt many of the republicans are holding back so they can use the border issue during the election.0 -
Hmmm, and I thought mentally unstable beings easily obtaining firearms was part of the problem as well.Edit….forgot this - Donald Trump should be blamed solely for civil unrest.You forgot the guns and Trump.Post edited by cblock4life on0
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cblock4life said:Hmmm, and I thought mentally unstable beings easily obtaining firearms was part of the problem as well.no. no it isnt. otherwise we would fund mental health services, we dont so thats not the reason...more thoughts more prayers. that shoukd do it._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Okcincybearcat said:
Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.0 -
Well I hit send before I was done and got distracted.Merkin Baller said:
Okcincybearcat said:
Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.
For people here, except for a very few individuals way more outrage and discussion over 1/6 and immigration as a whole for sure.
If you are comparing to the general public I'm not sure what you expect. It has been the same for a long time now due to Trump and his followers. I honestly didn;t see anything national about the NYC case, as I said I saw it on local news when in NYC.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Respectfully, I stand by what I said.cincybearcat said:
Well I hit send before I was done and got distracted.Merkin Baller said:
Okcincybearcat said:
Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.
For people here, except for a very few individuals way more outrage and discussion over 1/6 and immigration as a whole for sure.
If you are comparing to the general public I'm not sure what you expect. It has been the same for a long time now due to Trump and his followers. I honestly didn;t see anything national about the NYC case, as I said I saw it on local news when in NYC.
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Cool. I respectfully disagree.Merkin Baller said:
Respectfully, I stand by what I said.cincybearcat said:
Well I hit send before I was done and got distracted.Merkin Baller said:
Okcincybearcat said:
Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.
For people here, except for a very few individuals way more outrage and discussion over 1/6 and immigration as a whole for sure.
If you are comparing to the general public I'm not sure what you expect. It has been the same for a long time now due to Trump and his followers. I honestly didn;t see anything national about the NYC case, as I said I saw it on local news when in NYC.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Ask mace. Maybe they can explain why it was posted in the immigration thread (maybe because it’s about the “other?”):cincybearcat said:
Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.don't know if this is a better fit here on the police abuse thread. Heard about this over the weekend.
https://abc7ny.com/nyc-crime-officers-attacked-time-square-nypd/14380425/
But it's a joke. Attack police officers, and let go without bail, and, shockingly, are now nowhere to be found. We have to be a joke to the rest of the world. I mean, I know we already are, but this has to be added to the list. Come here, assault police, and nothing happens to you. In what other civilized country can that happen in?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
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I know I didn't comment much on 1/6, and didn't comment on the immigration bill until Juggler specifically mentioned that I hadn't because I don't see the need to repeat what has already been said 100 times. If I don't have a differing opinion or something new to add to the conversation, I generally don't say anything. That doesn't mean I was okay with what happened.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.0 -
Fair enough.cincybearcat said:
Cool. I respectfully disagree.Merkin Baller said:
Respectfully, I stand by what I said.cincybearcat said:
Well I hit send before I was done and got distracted.Merkin Baller said:
Okcincybearcat said:
Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.
For people here, except for a very few individuals way more outrage and discussion over 1/6 and immigration as a whole for sure.
If you are comparing to the general public I'm not sure what you expect. It has been the same for a long time now due to Trump and his followers. I honestly didn;t see anything national about the NYC case, as I said I saw it on local news when in NYC.
We at least agree the GOP wants the border situation to stay the same because it's too an important an issue for them come election time, right? All their bloviating and bullshit about border security is nonsense, that's been confirmed this last week; we can at least agree on that much, no?0 -
I do agree w/ Mace's assertion that we're a joke to the rest of the world, but probably for different reasons if I had to guess.0 -
With this GOP? Absolutely. Take a look back at my post in this thread if you don’t believe meMerkin Baller said:
Fair enough.cincybearcat said:
Cool. I respectfully disagree.Merkin Baller said:
Respectfully, I stand by what I said.cincybearcat said:
Well I hit send before I was done and got distracted.Merkin Baller said:
Okcincybearcat said:
Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.
For people here, except for a very few individuals way more outrage and discussion over 1/6 and immigration as a whole for sure.
If you are comparing to the general public I'm not sure what you expect. It has been the same for a long time now due to Trump and his followers. I honestly didn;t see anything national about the NYC case, as I said I saw it on local news when in NYC.
We at least agree the GOP wants the border situation to stay the same because it's too an important an issue for them come election time, right? All their bloviating and bullshit about border security is nonsense, that's been confirmed this last week; we can at least agree on that much, no?hippiemom = goodness0 -
If by 'this' GOP you mean since 2016 as you previously noted, that ignores 2 decades worth of not just inaction, but actively shutting down bipartisan border measures.cincybearcat said:
With this GOP? Absolutely. Take a look back at my post in this thread if you don’t believe meMerkin Baller said:
Fair enough.cincybearcat said:
Cool. I respectfully disagree.Merkin Baller said:
Respectfully, I stand by what I said.cincybearcat said:
Well I hit send before I was done and got distracted.Merkin Baller said:
Okcincybearcat said:
Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.
For people here, except for a very few individuals way more outrage and discussion over 1/6 and immigration as a whole for sure.
If you are comparing to the general public I'm not sure what you expect. It has been the same for a long time now due to Trump and his followers. I honestly didn;t see anything national about the NYC case, as I said I saw it on local news when in NYC.
We at least agree the GOP wants the border situation to stay the same because it's too an important an issue for them come election time, right? All their bloviating and bullshit about border security is nonsense, that's been confirmed this last week; we can at least agree on that much, no?
It's no different than gun violence... it doesn't matter that the status quo is bad for America, it's good for the GOP's bottom line; they've confirmed as much these last 20+ years with all their inaction. This is their MO. This is who 'the' GOP has been for decades, not just since trump.0 -
I went to Italy with a small group of friends around 2009/2010. Some of them had dual citizenship with Canada, and they always get their passport through Canada so people don't know they're American when they travel.Merkin Baller said:
If by 'this' GOP you mean since 2016 as you previously noted, that ignores 2 decades worth of not just inaction, but actively shutting down bipartisan border measures.cincybearcat said:
With this GOP? Absolutely. Take a look back at my post in this thread if you don’t believe meMerkin Baller said:
Fair enough.cincybearcat said:
Cool. I respectfully disagree.Merkin Baller said:
Respectfully, I stand by what I said.cincybearcat said:
Well I hit send before I was done and got distracted.Merkin Baller said:
Okcincybearcat said:
Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.
For people here, except for a very few individuals way more outrage and discussion over 1/6 and immigration as a whole for sure.
If you are comparing to the general public I'm not sure what you expect. It has been the same for a long time now due to Trump and his followers. I honestly didn;t see anything national about the NYC case, as I said I saw it on local news when in NYC.
We at least agree the GOP wants the border situation to stay the same because it's too an important an issue for them come election time, right? All their bloviating and bullshit about border security is nonsense, that's been confirmed this last week; we can at least agree on that much, no?
It's no different than gun violence... it doesn't matter that the status quo is bad for America, it's good for the GOP's bottom line; they've confirmed as much these last 20+ years with all their inaction. This is their MO. This is who 'the' GOP has been for decades, not just since trump.
I learned why. Some guy, who we had zero interaction with , cussed us out at a bus stop when we got there. All I could understand was a repeated "F*** Bush," the rest in Italian.0 -
Cool. I've also traveled internationally and had people trash Bush (and trump more recently) in front of me knowing full well where I was from.mace1229 said:
I went to Italy with a small group of friends around 2009/2010. Some of them had dual citizenship with Canada, and they always get their passport through Canada so people don't know they're American when they travel.Merkin Baller said:
If by 'this' GOP you mean since 2016 as you previously noted, that ignores 2 decades worth of not just inaction, but actively shutting down bipartisan border measures.cincybearcat said:
With this GOP? Absolutely. Take a look back at my post in this thread if you don’t believe meMerkin Baller said:
Fair enough.cincybearcat said:
Cool. I respectfully disagree.Merkin Baller said:
Respectfully, I stand by what I said.cincybearcat said:
Well I hit send before I was done and got distracted.Merkin Baller said:
Okcincybearcat said:
Now that is just bullshit.Merkin Baller said:
It was made an immigration issue when it was posted in the immigration thread.cincybearcat said:
Are you talking about people here or in general?Merkin Baller said:
So, 4 times in the last 20 years, Republicans have killed bipartisan immigration reform.mickeyrat said:
That’s a decades long trend there… and people are still going to vote GOP because an immigrant beat up a cop in NY. It’s irrelevant that trump directed his mob to beat up the CPD on 1/6, those police don’t matter. It’s the cops getting beat up by immigrants that matter, so vote trump… he’s gonna build that wall.
I'm confused as to why talking about a recent event is not welcome on this forum. I don't think many were making it about immigration as a whole, but in how the court system failed in that specific incident and how weird it is to allow people with no home, job etc keeping them in an area to be given no bail and allowed to skip out on beating up an officer of the law. A failure of the NYC justice system...that's it. And a surprise for me.
It seems if it doesn't fit the narrative it is blow off as bullshit overreaction.
& I'm talking about conservatives in general, and maybe people in this thread? IDK... I've seen more conservative outrage over what the DA did here than I did over 1/6 or the recent bullshit from the GOP, so I really don't know.
For people here, except for a very few individuals way more outrage and discussion over 1/6 and immigration as a whole for sure.
If you are comparing to the general public I'm not sure what you expect. It has been the same for a long time now due to Trump and his followers. I honestly didn;t see anything national about the NYC case, as I said I saw it on local news when in NYC.
We at least agree the GOP wants the border situation to stay the same because it's too an important an issue for them come election time, right? All their bloviating and bullshit about border security is nonsense, that's been confirmed this last week; we can at least agree on that much, no?
It's no different than gun violence... it doesn't matter that the status quo is bad for America, it's good for the GOP's bottom line; they've confirmed as much these last 20+ years with all their inaction. This is their MO. This is who 'the' GOP has been for decades, not just since trump.
I learned why. Some guy, who we had zero interaction with , cussed us out at a bus stop when we got there. All I could understand was a repeated "F*** Bush," the rest in Italian.
Is it possible, maybe we're a joke to the rest of the world because we elect people like Bush and trump?0
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