Viruses / Vaccines 2

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

Go Beavers said:

23scidoo said:

Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??

You mean the lies told about the vaccine? 

It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/

"Might have" is doing some lifting.
I don't even know what to think of the vaccines anymore. I have four shots under my belt. I had covid about a year ago.

Do I regret getting the shots? No; at least not yet. Will I again? Undecided. Probably.

But we were sold:

• It reduces the chance of getting covid  (Unsure; maybe before certain variants)
• You need to get it so it won't spread (preposterous) 
• It's safe (questionable; particularly in younger males)
• It will reduce the severity of your bout with covid (True and seemingly the primary benefit it offers)

"Conspiracy Theories":

• It was shoved down our throats with the threat of people losing their livelihoods (True)
• Societal benefit was marginal (Seems to be true)
• Risky for individuals (True)
• It's currently the vaxxed and not the unvaxed that are getting/spreading covid (Unsure; Never seen anything that will point to or for that)
• Thousands of young male athletes are having cardiac episodes (Exaggerated but seemingly true)

What if I told you covid was causing heart problems in young male athletes long before the vaccine was available? Because it was… 

https://bdc2020.o0bc.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2020/11/19/eduardo-rodriguez-myocarditis-red-sox-pitcher/

Really now??..thousands felt down like flies, almost all of them double and triple vaccinated..

Share your source for this information. Show us where thousands dropped like flies because of the vaccine as you appear to be implying. 

There is no chance, my friend, for them to be connected to each other..

You can’t show us where “thousands are dropping like flies” [from the vaccine] because it simply isn’t happening. 

No, you just can't connected..only in 2021, 108 FIFA footballers died or suffer..its all out there..

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

Go Beavers said:

23scidoo said:

Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??

You mean the lies told about the vaccine? 

It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/

"Might have" is doing some lifting.
I don't even know what to think of the vaccines anymore. I have four shots under my belt. I had covid about a year ago.

Do I regret getting the shots? No; at least not yet. Will I again? Undecided. Probably.

But we were sold:

• It reduces the chance of getting covid  (Unsure; maybe before certain variants)
• You need to get it so it won't spread (preposterous) 
• It's safe (questionable; particularly in younger males)
• It will reduce the severity of your bout with covid (True and seemingly the primary benefit it offers)

"Conspiracy Theories":

• It was shoved down our throats with the threat of people losing their livelihoods (True)
• Societal benefit was marginal (Seems to be true)
• Risky for individuals (True)
• It's currently the vaxxed and not the unvaxed that are getting/spreading covid (Unsure; Never seen anything that will point to or for that)
• Thousands of young male athletes are having cardiac episodes (Exaggerated but seemingly true)

What if I told you covid was causing heart problems in young male athletes long before the vaccine was available? Because it was… 

https://bdc2020.o0bc.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2020/11/19/eduardo-rodriguez-myocarditis-red-sox-pitcher/

Really now??..thousands felt down like flies, almost all of them double and triple vaccinated..

Share your source for this information. Show us where thousands dropped like flies because of the vaccine as you appear to be implying. 

There is no chance, my friend, for them to be connected to each other..

You can’t show us where “thousands are dropping like flies” [from the vaccine] because it simply isn’t happening. 

No, you just can't connected..only in 2021, 108 FIFA footballers died or suffer..its all out there..

Very easy to prove or disprove. How many athletes died of heart disease the year before the pandemic? How about this year of heart disease? You don’t seem to share ‘all’ that’s out there. One piece of data is never enough for a trend or causal relationship.

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

you really need to do better homework. 

“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.

Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.

While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.

In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.

Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.

Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/

You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

you really need to do better homework. 

“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.

Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.

While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.

In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.

Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.

Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/

You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..

As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
You’re doing great, here. 

No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

you really need to do better homework. 

“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.

Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.

While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.

In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.

Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.

Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/

You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..

As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
You’re doing great, here. 

No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol

Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 

My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

you really need to do better homework. 

“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.

Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.

While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.

In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.

Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.

Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/

You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..

As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
You’re doing great, here. 

No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol

Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 

My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 

Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 

You laugh, but everyday at least one person who got a vaccine is dying.  Probably more than that.  That's not normal.  

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

you really need to do better homework. 

“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.

Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.

While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.

In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.

Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.

Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/

You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..

As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
You’re doing great, here. 

No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol

Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 

My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 

Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

you really need to do better homework. 

“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.

Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.

While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.

In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.

Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.

Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/

You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..

As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
You’re doing great, here. 

No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol

Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 

My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 

Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 

You laugh, but everyday at least one person who got a vaccine is dying.  Probably more than that.  That's not normal.  

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

you really need to do better homework. 

“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.

Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.

While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.

In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.

Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.

Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/

You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..

As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
You’re doing great, here. 

No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol

Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 

My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 

Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 

You laugh, but everyday at least one person who got a vaccine is dying.  Probably more than that.  That's not normal.  

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

23scidoo said:

Merkin Baller said:

you really need to do better homework. 

“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.

Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.

While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.

In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.

Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.

Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/

You are right, i was wrong..more than 108!!..
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..

As if Wikipedia was a reliable source, but ok… of the 1st 21 names listed, only 4 people are under the age of 70.(I stopped reading after that… did any of those people even exist?)
You’re doing great, here. 

No they are ghosts, spirits..really, are you asking that??..lol

Some names could be made up, there isn’t a high bar for making edits on Wiki. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true. I googled one of the names & nothing came up…. The wiki link had nothing. I looked at a few of the others and some of these people were born in the 1940s.. 

These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it. 

We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know. 

My understanding is that it takes 50 years for the vaccine side effects to really show.  So check on the mortality rate then.  You'll see. 

Dr Fauci playing the longest of games giving us vaccines that will kill us in 50 years. 

You laugh, but everyday at least one person who got a vaccine is dying.  Probably more than that.  That's not normal.  

Don't make noise please..