The "leak" outside the back door of the listening party is obviously band approved, right?

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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    JojoRice said:
    https://m.facebook.com/groups/10cmembers/permalink/7001091430003344/?

    Best quality Ive heard so far....

    Hah!
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,687
    Really hope the final version of the album includes the vibrating metal fire guard sound. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    dwjmu84 said:
    Why would it “come down”? 

    It’s not the tracks themselves. It’s a back alley through the door recording. I’m not sure 

    1- they think they could prevent this from spreading or

    2 - would have any legal basis to issue a cease and desist 


    Many bands are pretty successful of taking anything down with their music, Even a solo video of a random guy covering them.
    If you watch Rick Beat's videos, he always talks about it when he comes across a band and he's worried about his video being removed, he won't even play a cover version of the song he's talking about. 
    Now do I think they are going to scour the internet to find this bootleg recording? No. But I wouldn't have been surprised if they closed the thread on their own forum. I wouldn't have found it otherwise. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,254
    mace1229 said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Why would it “come down”? 

    It’s not the tracks themselves. It’s a back alley through the door recording. I’m not sure 

    1- they think they could prevent this from spreading or

    2 - would have any legal basis to issue a cease and desist 


    Many bands are pretty successful of taking anything down with their music, Even a solo video of a random guy covering them.
    If you watch Rick Beat's videos, he always talks about it when he comes across a band and he's worried about his video being removed, he won't even play a cover version of the song he's talking about. 
    Now do I think they are going to scour the internet to find this bootleg recording? No. But I wouldn't have been surprised if they closed the thread on their own forum. I wouldn't have found it otherwise. 
    Yeah I'm bummed that Beato doesn't do the "What makes this song great" videos anymore. Those were so good but I think the copyright shit took him down.
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  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    mace1229 said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Why would it “come down”? 

    It’s not the tracks themselves. It’s a back alley through the door recording. I’m not sure 

    1- they think they could prevent this from spreading or

    2 - would have any legal basis to issue a cease and desist 


    Many bands are pretty successful of taking anything down with their music, Even a solo video of a random guy covering them.
    If you watch Rick Beat's videos, he always talks about it when he comes across a band and he's worried about his video being removed, he won't even play a cover version of the song he's talking about. 
    Now do I think they are going to scour the internet to find this bootleg recording? No. But I wouldn't have been surprised if they closed the thread on their own forum. I wouldn't have found it otherwise. 
    That's fair. Closing the thread seems more likely.  I think they ultimately realize the futility of trying to keep this kind of thing at bay. As we all know in the age of socials, when it's out, it's out for good.  As it's not an official recording (which would be theft of property most likely), they prob realize there's little they can do. And then, they might well enjoy the build up it provides.  We don't. .....we just want the damn thing now!! haha.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    mookeywrench said:
    I'm on team genuine:

    It's a recording in public.

    the snippets are short, seems intentional to avoid licensing issues.

    Has too many other randomly posted live shows around LA to come across as a plant.

    Is there anyone disputing that it's genuine?
  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,019
    If you can see it, you can record it, so if you can hear it, you can record it LOL
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,704
    I doubt it was intentional marketing, but I think having it out there increases the hype, and that is why they wouldn't be interested in taking it down.
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  • verceman
    verceman Posts: 700
    The fact that it was recorded in a public place probably helps justify the video not being taken down. I also notice there aren't any ads running, so a demonetized video says the poster isn't making money off the work. Why the link hasn't been pulled from these boards is weird to me, especially since even an allusion to an existence of a leak is usually stomped.out.
  • StardogChamp79
    StardogChamp79 Posts: 1,190
    Man! It’s times like this when I wish we didn’t have the internet. We really lose a lot of mystery of what things sound or look like to what often becomes click bait. I know leaks are going to happen but having a little mystery makes things a lot cooler and more enjoyable. 
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  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    The band has always allowed bootlegs.  Only EV solo shows don't.  It has sparked discussion and probably increased website traffic quite a bit.  They know they have our full attention at the moment.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,489
    jimjam1982 said:
    The band has always allowed bootlegs.  Only EV solo shows don't.  It has sparked discussion and probably increased website traffic quite a bit.  They know they have our full attention at the moment.
    Pearl Jam didn't play the album live.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    The band has always allowed bootlegs.  Only EV solo shows don't.  It has sparked discussion and probably increased website traffic quite a bit.  They know they have our full attention at the moment.
    Pearl Jam didn't play the album live.
    I don't think needs to be live to be considered bootlegged?  I can understand them pulling it if they did but I wouldn't expect it.
  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,019
    StardogChamp79 said:
    Man! It’s times like this when I wish we didn’t have the internet. We really lose a lot of mystery of what things sound or look like to what often becomes click bait. I know leaks are going to happen but having a little mystery makes things a lot cooler and more enjoyable. 
    I do agree, but the little snippets have only amplified my excitement to hear each song in it's entirety.
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,980
    Anything is possible.  Although I would say if it was a guerilla promotion its pretty brilliant.  But my money is on it being a genuine fan posting it if I had to bet.
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  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,019
    verceman said:
    The fact that it was recorded in a public place probably helps justify the video not being taken down. I also notice there aren't any ads running, so a demonetized video says the poster isn't making money off the work. Why the link hasn't been pulled from these boards is weird to me, especially since even an allusion to an existence of a leak is usually stomped.out.
    I doubt they knew he was recording, but they did sign for him and snap some pics with him right after. Not saying that is a reason for it not being pulled, but it's hard to argue with a legal recording of something out in the ether. Had someone inside gotten crystal clear recordings, they would likely have shut that down ASAP with a C&D.
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,075
    pjl44 said:
    mookeywrench said:
    I'm on team genuine:

    It's a recording in public.

    the snippets are short, seems intentional to avoid licensing issues.

    Has too many other randomly posted live shows around LA to come across as a plant.

    Is there anyone disputing that it's genuine?
    Referring to it being a genuine leak, vs guerilla marketing. Not the content itself.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,489
    jimjam1982 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    The band has always allowed bootlegs.  Only EV solo shows don't.  It has sparked discussion and probably increased website traffic quite a bit.  They know they have our full attention at the moment.
    Pearl Jam didn't play the album live.
    I don't think needs to be live to be considered bootlegged?  I can understand them pulling it if they did but I wouldn't expect it.
    What bootlegs have they openly allowed that isn't live tapings? 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    mookeywrench said:
    pjl44 said:
    mookeywrench said:
    I'm on team genuine:

    It's a recording in public.

    the snippets are short, seems intentional to avoid licensing issues.

    Has too many other randomly posted live shows around LA to come across as a plant.

    Is there anyone disputing that it's genuine?
    Referring to it being a genuine leak, vs guerilla marketing. Not the content itself.
    Ah...gotcha. Yeah, I think genuine too.
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,877
    i see that door in the ally, cant help that it was just some rando taking a leak

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