The "leak" outside the back door of the listening party is obviously band approved, right?

Hugo Reyes

I mean, it's just a viral marketing initiative to get us all excited, right?  Otherwise, why wouldn't it have been pulled.  Don't get me wrong - I don't care who did it or why it's still available.  I've listened to it 20 times.  I think it's great!  But it's gotta be on purpose...

just_one

it wasnt taken down yet? thats indeed strange , bet it was santos recording it for us 

pjl44

I did think it would come down pretty quick

JeBurkhardt

They might as well release the album now so that instead of people complaining and fighting about not having access to it, they can start complaining and fighting about how much it sucks. Might as well officially release the tour dates too so the complaining and fighting can start for that. 

SVRDhand13

I stood next to a partially opened door and listened to Eddie’s sound check during his solo 2008 tour until security kicked me out. 

dwjmu84

Why would it “come down”? 

It’s not the tracks themselves. It’s a back alley through the door recording. I’m not sure 

1- they think they could prevent this from spreading or

2 - would have any legal basis to issue a cease and desist 

bootleg

I’ve actually thought the same thing.  Like they go through all this secrecy and security but no one’s watching the back door?  And the video is neatly cut into small snippets for each song.  If the poster was back there the whole time then they probably recorded the whole thing.  Why edit it down and not just post the whole thing?

jshetz10

Link?!

pdalowsky

Its hard to believe that a new album, an album Ed is calling their best work, would be leaked in a low quality audio for fans to partially hear. Surely that's a stretch and they would far rather it be heard in all its glory? 

I cant help but think that in the modern age this is something that is really unlikely, and would be more plausible perhaps in 1981

steven87

No chance this was intentional on the part of the band. They really like to keep things under wraps. But I’m surprised the video hasn’t been pulled yet. 

Hugo Reyes

jshetz10 said:

Link?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jkn_Lozswg

mookeywrench

I'm on team genuine:

It's a recording in public.

the snippets are short, seems intentional to avoid licensing issues.

Has too many other randomly posted live shows around LA to come across as a plant.

Spiritual_Chaos

It's short badly sounding parts of songs. Just doing the hype a service I imagine they are thinking.

It's not someone stealing the link to the album or a song and uploading it in pristine quality X weeks/months before release.

Hugo Reyes

dwjmu84 said:

Why would it “come down”? 

It’s not the tracks themselves. It’s a back alley through the door recording. I’m not sure 

1- they think they could prevent this from spreading or

2 - would have any legal basis to issue a cease and desist 

There's another version of the "leak" where someone is giving their thoughts on the songs and that was pulled off the internet.  So why would this one still be available?

Hugo Reyes

pdalowsky said:

Its hard to believe that a new album, an album Ed is calling their best work, would be leaked in a low quality audio for fans to partially hear. Surely that's a stretch and they would far rather it be heard in all its glory? 

I cant help but think that in the modern age this is something that is really unlikely, and would be more plausible perhaps in 1981

That's what makes it viral, the low quality nature of it.  Before Avacado came out, they released like a three second clip of WWS on the radio.  I recorded it and listened to it constantly!  They certainly understand the buzz something like this would cause.  I could be dead wrong but I hope I'm right.  I actually think, from a marketing standpoint, it's a great idea.
 

kmcmanus

Hugo Reyes said:

pdalowsky said:

Its hard to believe that a new album, an album Ed is calling their best work, would be leaked in a low quality audio for fans to partially hear. Surely that's a stretch and they would far rather it be heard in all its glory? 

I cant help but think that in the modern age this is something that is really unlikely, and would be more plausible perhaps in 1981

That's what makes it viral, the low quality nature of it.  Before Avacado came out, they released like a three second clip of WWS on the radio.  I recorded it and listened to it constantly!  They certainly understand the buzz something like this would cause.  I could be dead wrong but I hope I'm right.  I actually think, from a marketing standpoint, it's a great idea.
 

The low quality is definitely a selling point, there’s just enough there to let people hear what they want to without actually giving too much away. I’m not sure 15 second snippets would really tell us the shape of the album even if they were pristine sound quality.

raindog80

steven87 said:

No chance this was intentional on the part of the band. They really like to keep things under wraps. But I’m surprised the video hasn’t been pulled yet. 

Think the same. 

JojoRice

https://m.facebook.com/groups/10cmembers/permalink/7001091430003344/?

Best quality Ive heard so far....

lexicondevil

Tempted to listen, but think I'll wait. Would rather hear it "properly". Hopefully soon!

mpedone

I don't think it was an intentional leak, but given the quality, I could see them being aware of it but liking that it is generating buzz.

Tim Simmons

I think that’s exactly it. 

mpedone

JojoRice said:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/10cmembers/permalink/7001091430003344/?

Best quality Ive heard so far....

Hah!

Tim Simmons

Really hope the final version of the album includes the vibrating metal fire guard sound. 

mace1229

dwjmu84 said:

Why would it “come down”? 

It’s not the tracks themselves. It’s a back alley through the door recording. I’m not sure 

1- they think they could prevent this from spreading or

2 - would have any legal basis to issue a cease and desist 

Many bands are pretty successful of taking anything down with their music, Even a solo video of a random guy covering them.
If you watch Rick Beat's videos, he always talks about it when he comes across a band and he's worried about his video being removed, he won't even play a cover version of the song he's talking about. 
Now do I think they are going to scour the internet to find this bootleg recording? No. But I wouldn't have been surprised if they closed the thread on their own forum. I wouldn't have found it otherwise. 

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

dwjmu84 said:

Why would it “come down”? 

It’s not the tracks themselves. It’s a back alley through the door recording. I’m not sure 

1- they think they could prevent this from spreading or

2 - would have any legal basis to issue a cease and desist 

Many bands are pretty successful of taking anything down with their music, Even a solo video of a random guy covering them.
If you watch Rick Beat's videos, he always talks about it when he comes across a band and he's worried about his video being removed, he won't even play a cover version of the song he's talking about. 
Now do I think they are going to scour the internet to find this bootleg recording? No. But I wouldn't have been surprised if they closed the thread on their own forum. I wouldn't have found it otherwise. 

Yeah I'm bummed that Beato doesn't do the "What makes this song great" videos anymore. Those were so good but I think the copyright shit took him down.

dwjmu84

mace1229 said:

dwjmu84 said:

Why would it “come down”? 

It’s not the tracks themselves. It’s a back alley through the door recording. I’m not sure 

1- they think they could prevent this from spreading or

2 - would have any legal basis to issue a cease and desist 

Many bands are pretty successful of taking anything down with their music, Even a solo video of a random guy covering them.
If you watch Rick Beat's videos, he always talks about it when he comes across a band and he's worried about his video being removed, he won't even play a cover version of the song he's talking about. 
Now do I think they are going to scour the internet to find this bootleg recording? No. But I wouldn't have been surprised if they closed the thread on their own forum. I wouldn't have found it otherwise. 

That's fair. Closing the thread seems more likely.  I think they ultimately realize the futility of trying to keep this kind of thing at bay. As we all know in the age of socials, when it's out, it's out for good.  As it's not an official recording (which would be theft of property most likely), they prob realize there's little they can do. And then, they might well enjoy the build up it provides.  We don't. .....we just want the damn thing now!! haha.

pjl44

mookeywrench said:

I'm on team genuine:

It's a recording in public.

the snippets are short, seems intentional to avoid licensing issues.

Has too many other randomly posted live shows around LA to come across as a plant.

Is there anyone disputing that it's genuine?

spankyMP

If you can see it, you can record it, so if you can hear it, you can record it LOL

PJ_Soul

I doubt it was intentional marketing, but I think having it out there increases the hype, and that is why they wouldn't be interested in taking it down.

verceman

The fact that it was recorded in a public place probably helps justify the video not being taken down. I also notice there aren't any ads running, so a demonetized video says the poster isn't making money off the work. Why the link hasn't been pulled from these boards is weird to me, especially since even an allusion to an existence of a leak is usually stomped.out.

StardogChamp79

Man! It’s times like this when I wish we didn’t have the internet. We really lose a lot of mystery of what things sound or look like to what often becomes click bait. I know leaks are going to happen but having a little mystery makes things a lot cooler and more enjoyable.