The "leak" outside the back door of the listening party is obviously band approved, right?

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  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 Posts: 1,398
    The band has always allowed bootlegs.  Only EV solo shows don't.  It has sparked discussion and probably increased website traffic quite a bit.  They know they have our full attention at the moment.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,083
    The band has always allowed bootlegs.  Only EV solo shows don't.  It has sparked discussion and probably increased website traffic quite a bit.  They know they have our full attention at the moment.
    Pearl Jam didn't play the album live.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 Posts: 1,398
    The band has always allowed bootlegs.  Only EV solo shows don't.  It has sparked discussion and probably increased website traffic quite a bit.  They know they have our full attention at the moment.
    Pearl Jam didn't play the album live.
    I don't think needs to be live to be considered bootlegged?  I can understand them pulling it if they did but I wouldn't expect it.
  • spankyMPspankyMP Posts: 1,747
    Man! It’s times like this when I wish we didn’t have the internet. We really lose a lot of mystery of what things sound or look like to what often becomes click bait. I know leaks are going to happen but having a little mystery makes things a lot cooler and more enjoyable. 
    I do agree, but the little snippets have only amplified my excitement to hear each song in it's entirety.
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  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,928
    Anything is possible.  Although I would say if it was a guerilla promotion its pretty brilliant.  But my money is on it being a genuine fan posting it if I had to bet.
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  • spankyMPspankyMP Posts: 1,747
    verceman said:
    The fact that it was recorded in a public place probably helps justify the video not being taken down. I also notice there aren't any ads running, so a demonetized video says the poster isn't making money off the work. Why the link hasn't been pulled from these boards is weird to me, especially since even an allusion to an existence of a leak is usually stomped.out.
    I doubt they knew he was recording, but they did sign for him and snap some pics with him right after. Not saying that is a reason for it not being pulled, but it's hard to argue with a legal recording of something out in the ether. Had someone inside gotten crystal clear recordings, they would likely have shut that down ASAP with a C&D.
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,867
    pjl44 said:
    I'm on team genuine:

    It's a recording in public.

    the snippets are short, seems intentional to avoid licensing issues.

    Has too many other randomly posted live shows around LA to come across as a plant.

    Is there anyone disputing that it's genuine?
    Referring to it being a genuine leak, vs guerilla marketing. Not the content itself.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,083
    The band has always allowed bootlegs.  Only EV solo shows don't.  It has sparked discussion and probably increased website traffic quite a bit.  They know they have our full attention at the moment.
    Pearl Jam didn't play the album live.
    I don't think needs to be live to be considered bootlegged?  I can understand them pulling it if they did but I wouldn't expect it.
    What bootlegs have they openly allowed that isn't live tapings? 
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,147
    pjl44 said:
    I'm on team genuine:

    It's a recording in public.

    the snippets are short, seems intentional to avoid licensing issues.

    Has too many other randomly posted live shows around LA to come across as a plant.

    Is there anyone disputing that it's genuine?
    Referring to it being a genuine leak, vs guerilla marketing. Not the content itself.
    Ah...gotcha. Yeah, I think genuine too.
  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,774
    i see that door in the ally, cant help that it was just some rando taking a leak
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,083
    I understand many believes that  "9/11 was an inside job", but Occam's razor clearly points to it being a random dude recording it - who also loves eric clapton (if that is the original uploader), and not it being PJ:s PR firm having this as the first step of the marketing campaign. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,335
    I understand many believes that  "9/11 was an inside job", but Occam's razor clearly points to it being a random dude recording it - who also loves eric clapton (if that is the original uploader), and not it being PJ:s PR firm having this as the first step of the marketing campaign. 
    That 9/11 conspiracy theory has always irritated me because it can be easily proven that "Inside Job" didn't come out until 2006.
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  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,928
    Loujoe said:


    This was my favorite episode as a kid.  The Doobie Brothers!
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  • LoujoeLoujoe Posts: 8,971
    :)

  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,335
    on2legs said:
    Loujoe said:


    This was my favorite episode as a kid.  The Doobie Brothers!
    Which Doobie you be?
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  • mvwmvw Posts: 1,687
    BF25394 said:
    on2legs said:
    Loujoe said:


    This was my favorite episode as a kid.  The Doobie Brothers!
    Which Doobie you be?
    Definitely Skunk!

  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,757
    verceman said:
    The fact that it was recorded in a public place probably helps justify the video not being taken down. I also notice there aren't any ads running, so a demonetized video says the poster isn't making money off the work. Why the link hasn't been pulled from these boards is weird to me, especially since even an allusion to an existence of a leak is usually stomped.out.
    Demonetized doesn't mean there won't be ads. They can still show ads but the artists or record companies will get it. And since the songs aren't released yet. It hasn't captured the audio that will copyright claim it and either block it or keep it up but with ads 
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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,590
    on2legs said:
    Loujoe said:


    This was my favorite episode as a kid.  The Doobie Brothers!
    Mine too, and I still don't know what executive decided to put The Doobie Brothers on what's happening. But it was gold. 


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  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,808
    pdalowsky said:
    Its hard to believe that a new album, an album Ed is calling their best work, would be leaked in a low quality audio for fans to partially hear. Surely that's a stretch and they would far rather it be heard in all its glory? 

    I cant help but think that in the modern age this is something that is really unlikely, and would be more plausible perhaps in 1981
    That's what makes it viral, the low quality nature of it.  Before Avacado came out, they released like a three second clip of WWS on the radio.  I recorded it and listened to it constantly!  They certainly understand the buzz something like this would cause.  I could be dead wrong but I hope I'm right.  I actually think, from a marketing standpoint, it's a great idea.
     

    Wasn't there a version of WWS that was horrendously off-key?
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  • As I left my bunker and climbed into my Linux powered hydrogen car, I have decided this is a conspiracy leak. If you notice the camera, he goes back and to the left, back, and to the left
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  • SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 6,433
    As I left my bunker and climbed into my Linux powered hydrogen car, I have decided this is a conspiracy leak. If you notice the camera, he goes back and to the left, back, and to the left😀 :rofl:
  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Posts: 4,153
    I mean, it's just a viral marketing initiative to get us all excited, right?  Otherwise, why wouldn't it have been pulled.  Don't get me wrong - I don't care who did it or why it's still available.  I've listened to it 20 times.  I think it's great!  But it's gotta be on purpose...
    This smells of a Boom leak! (Or Dave A). My money’s on Boom. More leaks than a sieve that bloke!  
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  • mattcozmattcoz Posts: 2,202
    Man! It’s times like this when I wish we didn’t have the internet. We really lose a lot of mystery of what things sound or look like to what often becomes click bait. I know leaks are going to happen but having a little mystery makes things a lot cooler and more enjoyable. 
    Or you can just choose to not listen to the leaks.

  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,928
    mattcoz said:
    Man! It’s times like this when I wish we didn’t have the internet. We really lose a lot of mystery of what things sound or look like to what often becomes click bait. I know leaks are going to happen but having a little mystery makes things a lot cooler and more enjoyable. 
    Or you can just choose to not listen to the leaks.

    Totally.  But that’s so hard to do.  I admire the ones who always hold out and don’t engage in the leaks.  I definitely can’t do it. 
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  • I don’t think this was an intentional leak….. but at the 1:05 mark you hear someone say “I just want to get out” (or something like that)….. am I the only one that thinks it sounds like Stone? And he was the only band member not present inside, right? 
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,335
    I don’t think this was an intentional leak….. but at the 1:05 mark you hear someone say “I just want to get out” (or something like that)….. am I the only one that thinks it sounds like Stone? And he was the only band member not present inside, right? 
    It sounds to me like he's saying "Paul is dead."
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  • tylermooretylermoore Posts: 921
    BF25394 said:
    I don’t think this was an intentional leak….. but at the 1:05 mark you hear someone say “I just want to get out” (or something like that)….. am I the only one that thinks it sounds like Stone? And he was the only band member not present inside, right? 
    It sounds to me like he's saying "Paul is dead."
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