Dave Abbruzzese plays Breath AND ALONE in 2023

HughFreakingDillon said:

I wouldn't say I "feel the need". I think it would be cool, just like it was cool to see Krusen play with them again as a one off. That's all it would be for me. 

I was glad I got to see Krusen play with them twice (RRHOF and Fresno), especially since the number of people who had seen him play with Pearl Jam before 2017 was probably about 1,000. (You would have had to have been attending their club shows between October 1990 and May 1991, since he left the band three months before Ten came out.)

Dave A. was the drummer when I first saw PJ, so it wouldn't offer the same novelty if he played with them today. In the fantasy world where he steps in for Matt at a moment's notice at a show I have tickets for, I'd be happy that the show was not being postponed or cancelled, not necessarily glad to see Dave. I'd be indifferent about that.

BF25394 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I don't need Pearl Jam to get Ace Frehley and Peter Criss up on stage for a Halloween show and they play Black Diamond and/or Let's put the X in Sex all in KISS makeup and attire, but it would be a cool moment.

Fascinating choice for your second KISS exemplar track.

Exactly what I thought. Not only did Ace & Peter not play on the track but that was during the non-makeup days. I don't need to see KISS without Ace & Peter. It's extremely lame that Tommy Thayer wears Ace's makeup IMO.

Yeah, not a need. Just a cool thought. More than that I wish they could just all find peace amongst themselves. 

ZoSoTim said:

BF25394 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I don't need Pearl Jam to get Ace Frehley and Peter Criss up on stage for a Halloween show and they play Black Diamond and/or Let's put the X in Sex all in KISS makeup and attire, but it would be a cool moment.

Fascinating choice for your second KISS exemplar track.

Exactly what I thought. Not only did Ace & Peter not play on the track but that was during the non-makeup days. I don't need to see KISS without Ace & Peter. It's extremely lame that Tommy Thayer wears Ace's makeup IMO.

lol...I agree. Why didn't Vinnie Vincent wear Ace makeup? Or Eric Carr wear Peter's makeup.

Fucking Kiss

what blows is that half the audience probably thinks they (Tommy/Singer) are original members

Gern Blansten said:

ZoSoTim said:

BF25394 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I don't need Pearl Jam to get Ace Frehley and Peter Criss up on stage for a Halloween show and they play Black Diamond and/or Let's put the X in Sex all in KISS makeup and attire, but it would be a cool moment.

Fascinating choice for your second KISS exemplar track.

Exactly what I thought. Not only did Ace & Peter not play on the track but that was during the non-makeup days. I don't need to see KISS without Ace & Peter. It's extremely lame that Tommy Thayer wears Ace's makeup IMO.

lol...I agree. Why didn't Vinnie Vincent wear Ace makeup? Or Eric Carr wear Peter's makeup.

Fucking Kiss

what blows is that half the audience probably thinks they (Tommy/Singer) are original members

I'm not even a Kiss fan and I've known since '94
I learned who Ace and Peter were from Weezer's In the Garage.

heh...it's like crayon being pronounced cray-on or kren

I say kren

Go Beavers said:

on2legs said:

Am I the only one who doesn’t feel the need to see Dave play with the band ever again?

Another nope. The guy shits on Ed and the other drummers, and the band's music, and people actually think they should invite the guy to play with them.

Agreed, and not only that, but he was clearly just on a completely different page than the rest of the band. You can even see it in every single photo and video of them. Dave NEVER had the same vibe or mood or anything as the other 4, and to me that is a visual reminder of how he just didn't fit properly, and I have to imagine that is ultimately why he got booted.

NewJPage said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bobasfeet said:

They must reeeeeeeally not like Dave A to keep him out of Hall of Fame. Him playing on VS and Vitalogy alone should have qualified him. 

not their call. the hall decides who gets in, not the bands. 

Grateful Dead refused induction unless every member ever in the band was included. Hall caved. It could have been done if the desire to do it was there.

interesting. didn't know that. I wonder if other bands tried to strong arm the hall and lost. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

on2legs said:

Am I the only one who doesn’t feel the need to see Dave play with the band ever again?

Another nope. The guy shits on Ed and the other drummers, and the band's music, and people actually think they should invite the guy to play with them.

Agreed, and not only that, but he was clearly just on a completely different page than the rest of the band. You can even see it in every single photo and video of them. Dave NEVER had the same vibe or mood or anything as the other 4, and to me that is a visual reminder of how he just didn't fit properly, and I have to imagine that is ultimately why he got booted.

what must be frustrating for him to watch, now, though, is how they have all completely turned around to where he was in 1993. pop hooks, videos, big chain marketing, magazine articles/interviews. 

They're still pretty sparing in their marketing and communication. Nobody has a podcast or a TV gig. They rarely say anything particularly revealing about Pearl Jam's music; a lot of the talking they do is about their side projects. The stage show remains sparse. It's not like they weren't writing hooks in the early '90s-- their most popular songs are from that period, and it's because they had hooks. If they're writing pop hooks now-- and what was the last one, "The Fixer"?-- they're not working. They haven't hit the top 40 since 1999, and that song was a pretty weird outlier. What's the big-chain marketing? Using Target for Backspacer? That was fourteen years ago. Now they're Record Store Day ambassadors.

I think the one thing that probably does drive Dave crazy is to see how Ed's personality has changed. Supposedly, one of the things that they clashed over was that Dave wanted the fame and the trappings and Ed wanted nothing to do with it. Now Ed embraces his fame and its trappings and makes a show of all his famous friends. I would bet that irks Dave.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://youtu.be/0aAadrHah9Y?feature=shared

dave a playing alone

Literally