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LastExitBJP
LastExitBJP Posts: 82
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Anyone know why the band doesn't play the Boston area as much anymore? Last time they came through was Fenway 2018. I think 6 years (it's safe to assume they won't be here in 2023) is the longest they've gone between MA shows (I also think it's safe to assume we'll never get an Eddie solo show again, unfortunately). I guess covid if I had to think of a reason. As far as I can tell, Boston's always been an important stop on the tour, and we never got a Gigaton show. I also wonder why they haven't played the Garden since 2010, and have since mostly chosen Fenway as the venue (a place not built for sound). The 2006 and 2010 Garden shows are mythic (I encourage everyone to check out the 2006 Boston night 2 bootleg... when they drop the Leash the crowd goes crazy). I remember reading some real positive posts on the Fenway shows (2016 and 2018), but from where I was in the crowd the sound was shit. I'd much rather see them in a venue built for sound than spend a ton of money to experience them with the novelty of a sports arena. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    It's been 13 years since they visited Indiana...Boston is fine
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Douglas12373
    Douglas12373 Posts: 388
    13 years for the DC area, 15 for DC proper. Boston has been far more blessed than most
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,751
    LastExitBJP said:
    Anyone know why the band doesn't play the Boston area as much anymore? Last time they came through was Fenway 2018. I think 6 years (it's safe to assume they won't be here in 2023) is the longest they've gone between MA shows (I also think it's safe to assume we'll never get an Eddie solo show again, unfortunately). I guess covid if I had to think of a reason. As far as I can tell, Boston's always been an important stop on the tour, and we never got a Gigaton show. I also wonder why they haven't played the Garden since 2010, and have since mostly chosen Fenway as the venue (a place not built for sound). The 2006 and 2010 Garden shows are mythic (I encourage everyone to check out the 2006 Boston night 2 bootleg... when they drop the Leash the crowd goes crazy). I remember reading some real positive posts on the Fenway shows (2016 and 2018), but from where I was in the crowd the sound was shit. I'd much rather see them in a venue built for sound than spend a ton of money to experience them with the novelty of a sports arena. 
    The choice to play Fenway is a no brainer... 35k / night as opposed to 17k? One stage setup & tear down and approximately 70K tickets over 2 nights? They would be foolish NOT to play Fenway from that perspective (I'm with you BTW, I would prefer the Garden)

    I also don't think they're so much as neglecting Boston as this is just how the chips have fallen since COVID. Yeah, 2 shows in 7 years (technically 4 for the city since 2010) feels like neglect based on how good we had it over the years, but they'll be back. I'll be surprised if they don't have some shows up here next year. (not to mention Worcester had 2 shows in '13... like Germ pointed out, there are entire STATES way more neglected than Boston - over the history of this band, we have it as good if not better than most markets) 

    I also don't think there's any reason to think Eddie won't be back... again, I think it's just how the chips have fallen since Covid. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    Longest stretch of no New England shows in the band's history. Has been five years since they last played Fenway and a decade since they played anywhere else. A reflection of their reduced touring schedule. 
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  • mwplum
    mwplum Posts: 1,542
    It’s been the same since Seattle and 10 years since Vancouver. Growing up in Vancouver (first show 1992), we could almost certainly count on a fall show in one of those cities. Guess it’s just a part of getting old…


    (and man, the Australians have it much worse, 2009 since a proper headlining tour!
    1992-07-21 Vancouver
    1993-9-4 Vancouver
    1996-9-16 Seattle
    1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
    2000-11-6 Seattle
    2001-10-22 Seattle
    2002 -12-09 Seattle
    2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
    2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
    2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
    2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
    2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
    2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
    2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2
    2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
  • lotsalemon
    lotsalemon Boston Posts: 2,739

    Bring back the Mansfield (or even the Garden) shows - Fenway shows :grimacing:
    Mansfield 06.28.2008 | Boston 05.17.2010 | Boston 06.19.2011 EV solo | Wrigley Field 07.19.2013 | Worcester 10.15.2013 | Worcester 10.16.2013 | Hartford 10.25.2013
    Vancouver 12.04.2013 | Seattle 12.06.2013 | Memphis 10.14.2014 | Quebec City 05.05.2016 | Ottawa 05.08.2016 | Toronto 05.11.2016 | Boston 08.05.2016 | Boston 08.07.2016 | Amsterdam 06.12.2018 | Boston 09.02.2018 | Boston 09.04.2018

  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,751
    lotsalemon said:

    Bring back the Mansfield (or even the Garden) shows - Fenway shows :grimacing:
    I would take Fenway over Mansfield... f that parking lot. 

    I'm with those suggesting it's age / the reduced touring schedule as well... which again, are 2 more reasons to play one show to 2X the amount of people at Fenway than they would the Garden. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    New England Tour 2024
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Merkin Baller said:
    lotsalemon said:

    Bring back the Mansfield (or even the Garden) shows - Fenway shows :grimacing:
    I would take Fenway over Mansfield... f that parking lot. 

    I'm with those suggesting it's age / the reduced touring schedule as well... which again, are 2 more reasons to play one show to 2X the amount of people at Fenway than they would the Garden. 
    yeah I think we've hit the new norm....they are older, they don't want to be away from home as much, they are set financially so why push the envelope?

    Small tours probably keep it exciting, allows creativity, keeps the coffers full, etc. 


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • RS65573
    RS65573 Posts: 2,499
    Plus BOY do we all travel. That doesn't help.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    RS65573 said:
    Plus BOY do we all travel. That doesn't help.
    And even worse, the merch still sells out. The money spent on travel, which you might think would cut into their bottom line, does not. Everything still sells. 
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  • RS65573
    RS65573 Posts: 2,499
    My first show was in Boston 1994. I would LOVE a 30th anniversary trip there.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    RS65573 said:
    My first show was in Boston 1994. I would LOVE a 30th anniversary trip there.
    we went to the two Fenway shows in 2018....I remember being really annoyed at the beer lines
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    That's nothing.  Try living in Atlanta. 
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • RS65573
    RS65573 Posts: 2,499
    Gern Blansten said:
    RS65573 said:
    My first show was in Boston 1994. I would LOVE a 30th anniversary trip there.
    we went to the two Fenway shows in 2018....I remember being really annoyed at the beer lines
    Try getting served in a Yankee hat...lol, not a great plan for me in 2016 and 18, but definitely memorable.

    One of the vendors just goes "come on man really?" I'm like dude its a concert, I just love baseball! Me and Shawn still talk over email lol.
  • Kwieneke
    Kwieneke Indiana Posts: 2,102
    edited August 2023
    Boston definitely isn't suffering in terms of PJ. More fortunate than most places with the exception of Chicago and LA or Seattle probably. And excluding 2 1/2 years or so for covid, it isn't bad. I think they'll make their way up next year for sure 
    Post edited by Kwieneke on
    Noblesville 5.7.2010. Lexington 4.26.2016. Nashville 9.16.2022. St Louis 9.18.2022.
    Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. 
    *Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted) 
    Seattle 5.30.2024  Noblesville 8.26.2024  Chicago 8.29.2024  Chicago 8.31.2024 
    Pittsburgh 5.16.2025 Pittsburgh 5.18.2025
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,764
    I heard it’s because of the entitlement mentality.  


    I kid, I kid.  
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    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

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  • CarryTheZero
    CarryTheZero Posts: 3,463
    JojoRice said:
    That's nothing.  Try living in Atlanta. 
    Yes, Atlanta. 20 years since a non festival show. 11 years since any show at all.
  • Jadler
    Jadler Posts: 777
    I have heard from a friend who is close with some hire up Livenation folks that ‘24 will be a big year for them, and New England will be part of that. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,981
    Maybe Howard Zinn’s passing, Theo moving on to the cubs, a banning from Mansfield, perhaps? and only Fenway and the garden being available re:scheduling issues all contribute?

    But yea, I’d take Mansfield and the garden over Fenway. Maybe a New England small venue tour in 2024, Portland, NH has an outdoor venue now, the garden or woosta, or both, Mansfield, providence civic centre, Hartford, msg, Albany or Buffalo, etc. East to West or west to east, doesn’t matter, just tour more dammit.
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