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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    brianlux said:
    So My father was at Woodstock and witnessed this whole thing go down, used to talk about it all the time…Abbie Hoffman jumped up on stage during The WHO’s set, grabbed the mic and started blabbering his nonsence.   Pete Townshend was having nothing of it and “assisted”  that rotten brain off the stage.  Can’t wait to show him this pic….old school Cancelling was much more effective …Rock n Roll!!! 
    this picture is not real.
    Ha, believe what you are told to believe…..I can see how the pic might be altered, but none the less Unlce Pete was having nothin of it and punted that putz off the stage in true Rock n roll fashion…

    Let me tell you something about Abbie Hoffman, Linda.  If it were not for people like Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Bill Zimmerman, and many, many others, I could easily have been drafted into a war that historically is known to have been unjustified and shameful- the war in Vietnam.  That war was ended in large part because of the efforts of these activists and it ended literally days before I was set to be drafted into the arms services (I was not drafted and chose later to serve my country in my own ways including working as a teacher and later doing volunteer work in our community).  Admittedly, as activist Zimmerman put it, "Abbie was a whirling dervish, spewing a constant stream of ideas, some brilliant, some ridiculous..."  Yes, Hoffman was a colorful character and an occasionally somewhat misguided character, but although not all of his ideas were exactly sound, his influence did help lead to the end of that tragic war and led to America becoming a better place.

    I hope this helps you to have a more clear understanding of this part of history and if not, to perhaps become a bit more respectful in your posts, or at the very least to become a little more restrained in your unfounded and impetuous criticisms.
    I always pay attention to your Posts Brain since you are reasonably and Kind….But on your reponce to my post I will refer to my father who was actually in Vietnam and injured.   I obviously was brought up differently then most on here. That school of hard knocks upbringing has served me and our family very very well.. Mahalo 
    Let us know your father's reaction to this fake picture when you can. Thanks 
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review.   Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.  

    Can I be cancelled for complaining? 
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review.   Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.  

    Can I be cancelled for complaining? 
    You can be cancelled for making personal comments. 
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,956
    mickeyrat said:
    So it seems yesterday’s reporting that the woke had cancelled Queen’s song Fat Bottomed Girls was skipping a few relevant facts. The way this article reads, one song made room for three songs.

     I was truly puzzled by this story (and still am in some ways), because I’ve always heard the song as being about what we call today body positivity I believe.

    https://www.euronews.com/culture/2023/08/22/debunking-the-scandal-did-they-really-remove-fat-bottomed-girls-from-queens-greatest-hits
    so reporting about something that never happened? #maga
    I honestly don’t know how the story initially surfaced, personally I wouldn’t put it past the streaming service getting it out there somehow so as to gain publicity. #notnecessarilymaga (lol)

    one removed , 3 added. deoending on country, the "original" greatest hits record had different tracklists. bicycle race is included and contains lyric similiar to a line found in fat bottom girls.

    ANY time "woke" gwts thrown around, I'm suggesting a view with skepticism on the topic being "woke"
    Completely agree with your last paragraph. It’s sad because I might once have lumped myself in with the “woke” but with the way it’s come to be used I just can’t. I’ll just quietly continue living my life based in part on the more historical use of the word.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    JB16057 said:
    I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review.   Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.  

    Can I be cancelled for complaining? 
    You can be cancelled for making personal comments. 
    No, really?  Well I take it very personal that you called me a pc of shit.  Someone flagged it.  Some can give it but just can’t take it.  
    I should’ve  flagged you both.  
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review.   Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.  

    Can I be cancelled for complaining? 
    You can be cancelled for making personal comments. 
    No, really?  Well I take it very personal that you called me a pc of shit.  Someone flagged it.  Some can give it but just can’t take it.  
    I should’ve  flagged you both.  
    I didn't make a personal comment directly calling you a piece of shit. I made a comment with a blanket statement over a whole group of people just as this message board is full of the same thing calling Republicans every name in the book. 
  • Malroth
    Malroth broken down chevrolet Posts: 2,556
    There is a lot of hatred on both sides. That is my biggest complaint of trump, he brought hate to the mainstream. but everybody is running with it.
    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review.   Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.  

    Can I be cancelled for complaining? 
    You can be cancelled for making personal comments. 
    No, really?  Well I take it very personal that you called me a pc of shit.  Someone flagged it.  Some can give it but just can’t take it.  
    I should’ve  flagged you both.  
    I didn't make a personal comment directly calling you a piece of shit. I made a comment with a blanket statement over a whole group of people just as this message board is full of the same thing calling Republicans every name in the book. 
    I took it personally.  You can’t tell me how I took the statement.  If I voted for Biden I was a piece of shit, that’s exactly what you said.  Now I am going to flag it because you’re so afraid I will.  Dish it out but can’t take it.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,970
    So My father was at Woodstock and witnessed this whole thing go down, used to talk about it all the time…Abbie Hoffman jumped up on stage during The WHO’s set, grabbed the mic and started blabbering his nonsence.   Pete Townshend was having nothing of it and “assisted”  that rotten brain off the stage.  Can’t wait to show him this pic….old school Cancelling was much more effective …Rock n Roll!!! 
    this picture is not real.
    Ha, believe what you are told to believe…..I can see how the pic might be altered, but none the less Unlce Pete was having nothin of it and punted that putz off the stage in true Rock n roll fashion…
    I love the smell of the Mahalo spirit first thing in the morning.
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review.   Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.  

    Can I be cancelled for complaining? 
    You can be cancelled for making personal comments. 
    No, really?  Well I take it very personal that you called me a pc of shit.  Someone flagged it.  Some can give it but just can’t take it.  
    I should’ve  flagged you both.  
    I didn't make a personal comment directly calling you a piece of shit. I made a comment with a blanket statement over a whole group of people just as this message board is full of the same thing calling Republicans every name in the book. 
    I took it personally.  You can’t tell me how I took the statement.  If I voted for Biden I was a piece of shit, that’s exactly what you said.  Now I am going to flag it because you’re so afraid I will.  Dish it out but can’t take it.  
    I'm not afraid you'll flag it. Please do and while you're at it, go through and flag every derogatory negative statement made about those that voted for Trump and Republicans in general. This message board is dedicated to hating the right. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,970
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review.   Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.  

    Can I be cancelled for complaining? 
    You can be cancelled for making personal comments. 
    No, really?  Well I take it very personal that you called me a pc of shit.  Someone flagged it.  Some can give it but just can’t take it.  
    I should’ve  flagged you both.  
    I didn't make a personal comment directly calling you a piece of shit. I made a comment with a blanket statement over a whole group of people just as this message board is full of the same thing calling Republicans every name in the book. 
    I took it personally.  You can’t tell me how I took the statement.  If I voted for Biden I was a piece of shit, that’s exactly what you said.  Now I am going to flag it because you’re so afraid I will.  Dish it out but can’t take it.  
    I'm not afraid you'll flag it. Please do and while you're at it, go through and flag every derogatory negative statement made about those that voted for Trump and Republicans in general. This message board is dedicated to hating the right. 
    Please explain and attempt to convince us that “hate” the right, and/or repubs, why we should like them, or at least tolerate them. What is it about repubs and the right that we should respect? What policies of theirs (you used the wrong ‘there’ in a previous post after criticizing someone for misspelling Brietbart, kinda ironic) could we possibly support that addresses any of the current challenges. I’ll ask you to pick 5 and explain why we should consider them (Obama care passed 13 years ago and we’re still waiting for the repub plan to replace it). Please, give us the reasons to love the right. We’re a patient bunch.
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review.   Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.  

    Can I be cancelled for complaining? 
    You can be cancelled for making personal comments. 
    No, really?  Well I take it very personal that you called me a pc of shit.  Someone flagged it.  Some can give it but just can’t take it.  
    I should’ve  flagged you both.  
    I didn't make a personal comment directly calling you a piece of shit. I made a comment with a blanket statement over a whole group of people just as this message board is full of the same thing calling Republicans every name in the book. 
    I took it personally.  You can’t tell me how I took the statement.  If I voted for Biden I was a piece of shit, that’s exactly what you said.  Now I am going to flag it because you’re so afraid I will.  Dish it out but can’t take it.  
    I'm not afraid you'll flag it. Please do and while you're at it, go through and flag every derogatory negative statement made about those that voted for Trump and Republicans in general. This message board is dedicated to hating the right. 
    Please explain and attempt to convince us that “hate” the right, and/or repubs, why we should like them, or at least tolerate them. What is it about repubs and the right that we should respect? What policies of theirs (you used the wrong ‘there’ in a previous post after criticizing someone for misspelling Brietbart, kinda ironic) could we possibly support that addresses any of the current challenges. I’ll ask you to pick 5 and explain why we should consider them (Obama care passed 13 years ago and we’re still waiting for the repub plan to replace it). Please, give us the reasons to love the right. We’re a patient bunch.
    How is this not a hateful statement?

    "Please explain and attempt to convince us that “hate” the right, and/or repubs, why we should like them, or at least tolerate them."

    Hate is on both sides of the aisle but it hurts those that let politics run their lives. Whether you are right or left, that's not the most important detail of your life unless you make it that way. 

    If you and I met in person, you would not know I was more Republican than Democrat. I own a business and offer my services to everyone, left or right, whether I disagree with them or not. When a known Democrat walks into my store, I don't question why I should tolerate them. They are a human being and are allowed to believe what they want. I don't let politics control how I feel about someone. I'm also smart enough to know that if either party had full power, we'd all be in trouble. It takes all kinds to make the world go around whether you want to admit that or not. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,647
    brianlux said:
    So My father was at Woodstock and witnessed this whole thing go down, used to talk about it all the time…Abbie Hoffman jumped up on stage during The WHO’s set, grabbed the mic and started blabbering his nonsence.   Pete Townshend was having nothing of it and “assisted”  that rotten brain off the stage.  Can’t wait to show him this pic….old school Cancelling was much more effective …Rock n Roll!!! 
    this picture is not real.
    Ha, believe what you are told to believe…..I can see how the pic might be altered, but none the less Unlce Pete was having nothin of it and punted that putz off the stage in true Rock n roll fashion…

    Let me tell you something about Abbie Hoffman, Linda.  If it were not for people like Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Bill Zimmerman, and many, many others, I could easily have been drafted into a war that historically is known to have been unjustified and shameful- the war in Vietnam.  That war was ended in large part because of the efforts of these activists and it ended literally days before I was set to be drafted into the arms services (I was not drafted and chose later to serve my country in my own ways including working as a teacher and later doing volunteer work in our community).  Admittedly, as activist Zimmerman put it, "Abbie was a whirling dervish, spewing a constant stream of ideas, some brilliant, some ridiculous..."  Yes, Hoffman was a colorful character and an occasionally somewhat misguided character, but although not all of his ideas were exactly sound, his influence did help lead to the end of that tragic war and led to America becoming a better place.

    I hope this helps you to have a more clear understanding of this part of history and if not, to perhaps become a bit more respectful in your posts, or at the very least to become a little more restrained in your unfounded and impetuous criticisms.
    I always pay attention to your Posts Brain since you are reasonably and Kind….But on your reponce to my post I will refer to my father who was actually in Vietnam and injured.   I obviously was brought up differently then most on here. That school of hard knocks upbringing has served me and our family very very well.. Mahalo 

    Believe me, Linda, I have respect for your father and the other many soldiers who fought in that war.  My issues has always been with the faulty motivations for that war, not with the soldiers.  I have classmates who did not come home alive from Vietnam, and I have friends who suffered greatly emotionally and physically as a result of that conflict and I have always been supportive of them.  I'm fairly sure Hoffman would say the exact same thing (he, as you likely know, is no longer with us).

    This is true the vast majority of the people who struggled to end that war.  Many of them suffered abuse, injury, and/or prison terms as a result of their efforts to resist the war.  I was damn lucky- I was never jailed or clubbed, but was I was there.  I saw it happen and it was not a pretty sight.

    So it has never been about us war resistors hating the soldiers or wishing them ill.  Quite the opposite.  
    I would encourage you to read Bill Zimmerman's book, Troublemaker, because he explains all of this better than I ever will.  It's an excellent, well written book on the subject.


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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review.   Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.  

    Can I be cancelled for complaining? 
    You can be cancelled for making personal comments. 
    No, really?  Well I take it very personal that you called me a pc of shit.  Someone flagged it.  Some can give it but just can’t take it.  
    I should’ve  flagged you both.  
    I didn't make a personal comment directly calling you a piece of shit. I made a comment with a blanket statement over a whole group of people just as this message board is full of the same thing calling Republicans every name in the book. 
    I took it personally.  You can’t tell me how I took the statement.  If I voted for Biden I was a piece of shit, that’s exactly what you said.  Now I am going to flag it because you’re so afraid I will.  Dish it out but can’t take it.  
    I'm not afraid you'll flag it. Please do and while you're at it, go through and flag every derogatory negative statement made about those that voted for Trump and Republicans in general. This message board is dedicated to hating the right. 
    Please explain and attempt to convince us that “hate” the right, and/or repubs, why we should like them, or at least tolerate them. What is it about repubs and the right that we should respect? What policies of theirs (you used the wrong ‘there’ in a previous post after criticizing someone for misspelling Brietbart, kinda ironic) could we possibly support that addresses any of the current challenges. I’ll ask you to pick 5 and explain why we should consider them (Obama care passed 13 years ago and we’re still waiting for the repub plan to replace it). Please, give us the reasons to love the right. We’re a patient bunch.
    🤣 just 😂
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,970
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review.   Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.  

    Can I be cancelled for complaining? 
    You can be cancelled for making personal comments. 
    No, really?  Well I take it very personal that you called me a pc of shit.  Someone flagged it.  Some can give it but just can’t take it.  
    I should’ve  flagged you both.  
    I didn't make a personal comment directly calling you a piece of shit. I made a comment with a blanket statement over a whole group of people just as this message board is full of the same thing calling Republicans every name in the book. 
    I took it personally.  You can’t tell me how I took the statement.  If I voted for Biden I was a piece of shit, that’s exactly what you said.  Now I am going to flag it because you’re so afraid I will.  Dish it out but can’t take it.  
    I'm not afraid you'll flag it. Please do and while you're at it, go through and flag every derogatory negative statement made about those that voted for Trump and Republicans in general. This message board is dedicated to hating the right. 
    Please explain and attempt to convince us that “hate” the right, and/or repubs, why we should like them, or at least tolerate them. What is it about repubs and the right that we should respect? What policies of theirs (you used the wrong ‘there’ in a previous post after criticizing someone for misspelling Brietbart, kinda ironic) could we possibly support that addresses any of the current challenges. I’ll ask you to pick 5 and explain why we should consider them (Obama care passed 13 years ago and we’re still waiting for the repub plan to replace it). Please, give us the reasons to love the right. We’re a patient bunch.
    How is this not a hateful statement?

    "Please explain and attempt to convince us that “hate” the right, and/or repubs, why we should like them, or at least tolerate them."

    Hate is on both sides of the aisle but it hurts those that let politics run their lives. Whether you are right or left, that's not the most important detail of your life unless you make it that way. 

    If you and I met in person, you would not know I was more Republican than Democrat. I own a business and offer my services to everyone, left or right, whether I disagree with them or not. When a known Democrat walks into my store, I don't question why I should tolerate them. They are a human being and are allowed to believe what they want. I don't let politics control how I feel about someone. I'm also smart enough to know that if either party had full power, we'd all be in trouble. It takes all kinds to make the world go around whether you want to admit that or not. 
    Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? Are you okay with Roe being overturned? And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings?

    And I’d bet that if we met in person, I’d know you were a repub if we discussed politics or almost any current events.
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    Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Nope.
    Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Nope.
    Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Why would a gay person want someone who doesn't agree with their life decisions to make their wedding cake/web page? That doesn't make sense. Wedding cake, web page designer, these are all artistic skills. If an artist isn't inspired, you probably don't want their services because they could be half assed. Artists need to be inspired and if what you do doesn't inspire them, find an artist who is inspired.
     Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? I'm ok with that decision but that doesn't change the fact that I personally would never deny someone service for those reasons.   
    Are you okay with Roe being overturned? Yes. It should be a state by state issue like other laws.
     And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings? Sorry that the Republicans outsmarted the Democrats.....

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JB16057 said:
    Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Nope.
    Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Nope.
    Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Why would a gay person want someone who doesn't agree with their life decisions to make their wedding cake/web page? That doesn't make sense. Wedding cake, web page designer, these are all artistic skills. If an artist isn't inspired, you probably don't want their services because they could be half assed. Artists need to be inspired and if what you do doesn't inspire them, find an artist who is inspired.
     Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? I'm ok with that decision but that doesn't change the fact that I personally would never deny someone service for those reasons.   
    Are you okay with Roe being overturned? Yes. It should be a state by state issue like other laws.
     And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings? Sorry that the Republicans outsmarted the Democrats.....
    "You're okay with that decision." See? There's the difference. You're okay with legalized discrimination. That makes it difficult for me to respect or like you and the party you support. In fact, I'd rather not like to meet you. And I'm sorry Jack Mack and the Heart Attacks outsmarted the POOTWH deplorable family.

    It should be the gay persons decision as to whether the artist is "inspired" and if they give shitty service, I'm sure they'll get poor reviews on Yelp. But they don't get the opportunity to get shitty service and you're fine with that. What a philosophy to live by.

    What services or who you might want to deny service to?

    As an aside, how would you describe repubs and their current values? Honest? God fearing? Real American values?
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  • JB16057
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    JB16057 said:
    Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Nope.
    Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Nope.
    Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Why would a gay person want someone who doesn't agree with their life decisions to make their wedding cake/web page? That doesn't make sense. Wedding cake, web page designer, these are all artistic skills. If an artist isn't inspired, you probably don't want their services because they could be half assed. Artists need to be inspired and if what you do doesn't inspire them, find an artist who is inspired.
     Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? I'm ok with that decision but that doesn't change the fact that I personally would never deny someone service for those reasons.   
    Are you okay with Roe being overturned? Yes. It should be a state by state issue like other laws.
     And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings? Sorry that the Republicans outsmarted the Democrats.....
    "You're okay with that decision." See? There's the difference. You're okay with legalized discrimination. That makes it difficult for me to respect or like you and the party you support. In fact, I'd rather not like to meet you. And I'm sorry Jack Mack and the Heart Attacks outsmarted the POOTWH deplorable family.

    It should be the gay persons decision as to whether the artist is "inspired" and if they give shitty service, I'm sure they'll get poor reviews on Yelp. But they don't get the opportunity to get shitty service and you're fine with that. What a philosophy to live by.

    What services or who you might want to deny service to?

    As an aside, how would you describe repubs and their current values? Honest? God fearing? Real American values?
    It should not be a gay persons decision if an artist is inspired by them. 

    I've already answered that I wouldn't deny service to anyone, even you. That's the difference. I can tolerate you but you can't tolerate me because you think you're better than me. What a philosophy to live by. You don't know me. You don't know the good that I've done in this world. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,970
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Nope.
    Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Nope.
    Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Why would a gay person want someone who doesn't agree with their life decisions to make their wedding cake/web page? That doesn't make sense. Wedding cake, web page designer, these are all artistic skills. If an artist isn't inspired, you probably don't want their services because they could be half assed. Artists need to be inspired and if what you do doesn't inspire them, find an artist who is inspired.
     Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? I'm ok with that decision but that doesn't change the fact that I personally would never deny someone service for those reasons.   
    Are you okay with Roe being overturned? Yes. It should be a state by state issue like other laws.
     And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings? Sorry that the Republicans outsmarted the Democrats.....
    "You're okay with that decision." See? There's the difference. You're okay with legalized discrimination. That makes it difficult for me to respect or like you and the party you support. In fact, I'd rather not like to meet you. And I'm sorry Jack Mack and the Heart Attacks outsmarted the POOTWH deplorable family.

    It should be the gay persons decision as to whether the artist is "inspired" and if they give shitty service, I'm sure they'll get poor reviews on Yelp. But they don't get the opportunity to get shitty service and you're fine with that. What a philosophy to live by.

    What services or who you might want to deny service to?

    As an aside, how would you describe repubs and their current values? Honest? God fearing? Real American values?
    It should not be a gay persons decision if an artist is inspired by them. 

    I've already answered that I wouldn't deny service to anyone, even you. That's the difference. I can tolerate you but you can't tolerate me because you think you're better than me. What a philosophy to live by. You don't know me. You don't know the good that I've done in this world. 
    An artist shouldn't have to be inspired by a person's sexuality to create their art as it relates to wedding cakes and web pages. Typically, wedding cake makers have a portfolio of wedding cakes they've made or ask you basic questions about color, taste, size, number of servings, etc. Do they ask heterosexual clients if their "straight?" Are they then "inspired" by the heterosexualness of the bride or groom? What a ridiculous philosophy. 

    I don't think I'm better than you but I am sure as hell a lot more tolerant than you. If I owned a business, I'd tolerate you because I wouldn't ask you your political affiliation. See the difference?

    You may have done good in this world but It'll be negated with your purported vote for POOTWH. 
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Nope.
    Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Nope.
    Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Why would a gay person want someone who doesn't agree with their life decisions to make their wedding cake/web page? That doesn't make sense. Wedding cake, web page designer, these are all artistic skills. If an artist isn't inspired, you probably don't want their services because they could be half assed. Artists need to be inspired and if what you do doesn't inspire them, find an artist who is inspired.
     Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? I'm ok with that decision but that doesn't change the fact that I personally would never deny someone service for those reasons.   
    Are you okay with Roe being overturned? Yes. It should be a state by state issue like other laws.
     And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings? Sorry that the Republicans outsmarted the Democrats.....
    "You're okay with that decision." See? There's the difference. You're okay with legalized discrimination. That makes it difficult for me to respect or like you and the party you support. In fact, I'd rather not like to meet you. And I'm sorry Jack Mack and the Heart Attacks outsmarted the POOTWH deplorable family.

    It should be the gay persons decision as to whether the artist is "inspired" and if they give shitty service, I'm sure they'll get poor reviews on Yelp. But they don't get the opportunity to get shitty service and you're fine with that. What a philosophy to live by.

    What services or who you might want to deny service to?

    As an aside, how would you describe repubs and their current values? Honest? God fearing? Real American values?
    It should not be a gay persons decision if an artist is inspired by them. 

    I've already answered that I wouldn't deny service to anyone, even you. That's the difference. I can tolerate you but you can't tolerate me because you think you're better than me. What a philosophy to live by. You don't know me. You don't know the good that I've done in this world. 
    An artist shouldn't have to be inspired by a person's sexuality to create their art as it relates to wedding cakes and web pages. Typically, wedding cake makers have a portfolio of wedding cakes they've made or ask you basic questions about color, taste, size, number of servings, etc. Do they ask heterosexual clients if their "straight?" Are they then "inspired" by the heterosexualness of the bride or groom? What a ridiculous philosophy. 

    I don't think I'm better than you but I am sure as hell a lot more tolerant than you. If I owned a business, I'd tolerate you because I wouldn't ask you your political affiliation. See the difference?

    You may have done good in this world but It'll be negated with your purported vote for POOTWH. 
    I literally just said I wouldn't deny service to you, even knowing who you are and what you vote for. You said the only reason you would be able to tolerate me is because you wouldn't ask about my political affiliation. This proves that you are not more tolerant than I am. 

    We are talking about reasons to deny someone a service. Would you deny me a service knowing that I voted for Trump?