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lindamarie73 said:brianlux said:lindamarie73 said:gimmesometruth27 said:lindamarie73 said:So My father was at Woodstock and witnessed this whole thing go down, used to talk about it all the time…Abbie Hoffman jumped up on stage during The WHO’s set, grabbed the mic and started blabbering his nonsence. Pete Townshend was having nothing of it and “assisted” that rotten brain off the stage. Can’t wait to show him this pic….old school Cancelling was much more effective …Rock n Roll!!!Let me tell you something about Abbie Hoffman, Linda. If it were not for people like Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Bill Zimmerman, and many, many others, I could easily have been drafted into a war that historically is known to have been unjustified and shameful- the war in Vietnam. That war was ended in large part because of the efforts of these activists and it ended literally days before I was set to be drafted into the arms services (I was not drafted and chose later to serve my country in my own ways including working as a teacher and later doing volunteer work in our community). Admittedly, as activist Zimmerman put it, "Abbie was a whirling dervish, spewing a constant stream of ideas, some brilliant, some ridiculous..." Yes, Hoffman was a colorful character and an occasionally somewhat misguided character, but although not all of his ideas were exactly sound, his influence did help lead to the end of that tragic war and led to America becoming a better place.I hope this helps you to have a more clear understanding of this part of history and if not, to perhaps become a bit more respectful in your posts, or at the very least to become a little more restrained in your unfounded and impetuous criticisms.www.myspace.com0
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I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review. Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.Can I be cancelled for complaining?0
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cblock4life said:I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review. Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.Can I be cancelled for complaining?0
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mickeyrat said:DarthMaeglin said:Gern Blansten said:DarthMaeglin said:So it seems yesterday’s reporting that the woke had cancelled Queen’s song Fat Bottomed Girls was skipping a few relevant facts. The way this article reads, one song made room for three songs.
I was truly puzzled by this story (and still am in some ways), because I’ve always heard the song as being about what we call today body positivity I believe.
https://www.euronews.com/culture/2023/08/22/debunking-the-scandal-did-they-really-remove-fat-bottomed-girls-from-queens-greatest-hitsone removed , 3 added. deoending on country, the "original" greatest hits record had different tracklists. bicycle race is included and contains lyric similiar to a line found in fat bottom girls.ANY time "woke" gwts thrown around, I'm suggesting a view with skepticism on the topic being "woke""The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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JB16057 said:cblock4life said:I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review. Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.Can I be cancelled for complaining?I should’ve flagged you both.0
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cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review. Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.Can I be cancelled for complaining?I should’ve flagged you both.0
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There is a lot of hatred on both sides. That is my biggest complaint of trump, he brought hate to the mainstream. but everybody is running with it.
The worst of times..they don't phase me,
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JB16057 said:cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review. Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.Can I be cancelled for complaining?I should’ve flagged you both.0
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lindamarie73 said:gimmesometruth27 said:lindamarie73 said:So My father was at Woodstock and witnessed this whole thing go down, used to talk about it all the time…Abbie Hoffman jumped up on stage during The WHO’s set, grabbed the mic and started blabbering his nonsence. Pete Townshend was having nothing of it and “assisted” that rotten brain off the stage. Can’t wait to show him this pic….old school Cancelling was much more effective …Rock n Roll!!!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review. Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.Can I be cancelled for complaining?I should’ve flagged you both.
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JB16057 said:cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review. Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.Can I be cancelled for complaining?I should’ve flagged you both.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review. Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.Can I be cancelled for complaining?I should’ve flagged you both.
"Please explain and attempt to convince us that “hate” the right, and/or repubs, why we should like them, or at least tolerate them."
Hate is on both sides of the aisle but it hurts those that let politics run their lives. Whether you are right or left, that's not the most important detail of your life unless you make it that way.
If you and I met in person, you would not know I was more Republican than Democrat. I own a business and offer my services to everyone, left or right, whether I disagree with them or not. When a known Democrat walks into my store, I don't question why I should tolerate them. They are a human being and are allowed to believe what they want. I don't let politics control how I feel about someone. I'm also smart enough to know that if either party had full power, we'd all be in trouble. It takes all kinds to make the world go around whether you want to admit that or not.0 -
lindamarie73 said:brianlux said:lindamarie73 said:gimmesometruth27 said:lindamarie73 said:So My father was at Woodstock and witnessed this whole thing go down, used to talk about it all the time…Abbie Hoffman jumped up on stage during The WHO’s set, grabbed the mic and started blabbering his nonsence. Pete Townshend was having nothing of it and “assisted” that rotten brain off the stage. Can’t wait to show him this pic….old school Cancelling was much more effective …Rock n Roll!!!Let me tell you something about Abbie Hoffman, Linda. If it were not for people like Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Bill Zimmerman, and many, many others, I could easily have been drafted into a war that historically is known to have been unjustified and shameful- the war in Vietnam. That war was ended in large part because of the efforts of these activists and it ended literally days before I was set to be drafted into the arms services (I was not drafted and chose later to serve my country in my own ways including working as a teacher and later doing volunteer work in our community). Admittedly, as activist Zimmerman put it, "Abbie was a whirling dervish, spewing a constant stream of ideas, some brilliant, some ridiculous..." Yes, Hoffman was a colorful character and an occasionally somewhat misguided character, but although not all of his ideas were exactly sound, his influence did help lead to the end of that tragic war and led to America becoming a better place.I hope this helps you to have a more clear understanding of this part of history and if not, to perhaps become a bit more respectful in your posts, or at the very least to become a little more restrained in your unfounded and impetuous criticisms.Believe me, Linda, I have respect for your father and the other many soldiers who fought in that war. My issues has always been with the faulty motivations for that war, not with the soldiers. I have classmates who did not come home alive from Vietnam, and I have friends who suffered greatly emotionally and physically as a result of that conflict and I have always been supportive of them. I'm fairly sure Hoffman would say the exact same thing (he, as you likely know, is no longer with us).This is true the vast majority of the people who struggled to end that war. Many of them suffered abuse, injury, and/or prison terms as a result of their efforts to resist the war. I was damn lucky- I was never jailed or clubbed, but was I was there. I saw it happen and it was not a pretty sight.So it has never been about us war resistors hating the soldiers or wishing them ill. Quite the opposite.I would encourage you to read Bill Zimmerman's book, Troublemaker, because he explains all of this better than I ever will. It's an excellent, well written book on the subject.
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Halifax2TheMax said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review. Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.Can I be cancelled for complaining?I should’ve flagged you both.0
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JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:JB16057 said:cblock4life said:I’m going to post here that I think I’m being cancelled because my posts were removed from gun violence thread which is closed for review. Let’s see, I’ve been called a pc of shit, some kind of brain remark, been accused that all of us jerk each other off, and skippy (which is derogatory) but my post and even Jose’s, which said nothing bad, is removed and theirs remain.Can I be cancelled for complaining?I should’ve flagged you both.
"Please explain and attempt to convince us that “hate” the right, and/or repubs, why we should like them, or at least tolerate them."
Hate is on both sides of the aisle but it hurts those that let politics run their lives. Whether you are right or left, that's not the most important detail of your life unless you make it that way.
If you and I met in person, you would not know I was more Republican than Democrat. I own a business and offer my services to everyone, left or right, whether I disagree with them or not. When a known Democrat walks into my store, I don't question why I should tolerate them. They are a human being and are allowed to believe what they want. I don't let politics control how I feel about someone. I'm also smart enough to know that if either party had full power, we'd all be in trouble. It takes all kinds to make the world go around whether you want to admit that or not.
And I’d bet that if we met in person, I’d know you were a repub if we discussed politics or almost any current events.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Nope.
Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Nope.
Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Why would a gay person want someone who doesn't agree with their life decisions to make their wedding cake/web page? That doesn't make sense. Wedding cake, web page designer, these are all artistic skills. If an artist isn't inspired, you probably don't want their services because they could be half assed. Artists need to be inspired and if what you do doesn't inspire them, find an artist who is inspired.
Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? I'm ok with that decision but that doesn't change the fact that I personally would never deny someone service for those reasons.
Are you okay with Roe being overturned? Yes. It should be a state by state issue like other laws.
And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings? Sorry that the Republicans outsmarted the Democrats.....
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JB16057 said:Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Nope.
Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Nope.
Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Why would a gay person want someone who doesn't agree with their life decisions to make their wedding cake/web page? That doesn't make sense. Wedding cake, web page designer, these are all artistic skills. If an artist isn't inspired, you probably don't want their services because they could be half assed. Artists need to be inspired and if what you do doesn't inspire them, find an artist who is inspired.
Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? I'm ok with that decision but that doesn't change the fact that I personally would never deny someone service for those reasons.
Are you okay with Roe being overturned? Yes. It should be a state by state issue like other laws.
And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings? Sorry that the Republicans outsmarted the Democrats.....
It should be the gay persons decision as to whether the artist is "inspired" and if they give shitty service, I'm sure they'll get poor reviews on Yelp. But they don't get the opportunity to get shitty service and you're fine with that. What a philosophy to live by.
What services or who you might want to deny service to?
As an aside, how would you describe repubs and their current values? Honest? God fearing? Real American values?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:JB16057 said:Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Nope.
Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Nope.
Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Why would a gay person want someone who doesn't agree with their life decisions to make their wedding cake/web page? That doesn't make sense. Wedding cake, web page designer, these are all artistic skills. If an artist isn't inspired, you probably don't want their services because they could be half assed. Artists need to be inspired and if what you do doesn't inspire them, find an artist who is inspired.
Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? I'm ok with that decision but that doesn't change the fact that I personally would never deny someone service for those reasons.
Are you okay with Roe being overturned? Yes. It should be a state by state issue like other laws.
And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings? Sorry that the Republicans outsmarted the Democrats.....
It should be the gay persons decision as to whether the artist is "inspired" and if they give shitty service, I'm sure they'll get poor reviews on Yelp. But they don't get the opportunity to get shitty service and you're fine with that. What a philosophy to live by.
What services or who you might want to deny service to?
As an aside, how would you describe repubs and their current values? Honest? God fearing? Real American values?
I've already answered that I wouldn't deny service to anyone, even you. That's the difference. I can tolerate you but you can't tolerate me because you think you're better than me. What a philosophy to live by. You don't know me. You don't know the good that I've done in this world.
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JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:JB16057 said:Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Nope.
Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Nope.
Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Why would a gay person want someone who doesn't agree with their life decisions to make their wedding cake/web page? That doesn't make sense. Wedding cake, web page designer, these are all artistic skills. If an artist isn't inspired, you probably don't want their services because they could be half assed. Artists need to be inspired and if what you do doesn't inspire them, find an artist who is inspired.
Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? I'm ok with that decision but that doesn't change the fact that I personally would never deny someone service for those reasons.
Are you okay with Roe being overturned? Yes. It should be a state by state issue like other laws.
And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings? Sorry that the Republicans outsmarted the Democrats.....
It should be the gay persons decision as to whether the artist is "inspired" and if they give shitty service, I'm sure they'll get poor reviews on Yelp. But they don't get the opportunity to get shitty service and you're fine with that. What a philosophy to live by.
What services or who you might want to deny service to?
As an aside, how would you describe repubs and their current values? Honest? God fearing? Real American values?
I've already answered that I wouldn't deny service to anyone, even you. That's the difference. I can tolerate you but you can't tolerate me because you think you're better than me. What a philosophy to live by. You don't know me. You don't know the good that I've done in this world.
I don't think I'm better than you but I am sure as hell a lot more tolerant than you. If I owned a business, I'd tolerate you because I wouldn't ask you your political affiliation. See the difference?
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Halifax2TheMax said:JB16057 said:Halifax2TheMax said:JB16057 said:Do you know of a Brandon Crime family supporter who refused service to a gay person? Nope.
Wedding cakes or webpage design, for example? Nope.
Did the right wing SCOTUS not say it was okay for that to happen? Why would a gay person want someone who doesn't agree with their life decisions to make their wedding cake/web page? That doesn't make sense. Wedding cake, web page designer, these are all artistic skills. If an artist isn't inspired, you probably don't want their services because they could be half assed. Artists need to be inspired and if what you do doesn't inspire them, find an artist who is inspired.
Are you okay with that decision, as in if you change your mind about who you might serve, drag queens, say, or someone based on their gender identity, would you like to be able to do that? I'm ok with that decision but that doesn't change the fact that I personally would never deny someone service for those reasons.
Are you okay with Roe being overturned? Yes. It should be a state by state issue like other laws.
And all the shenanigans that lead up to it with the SCOTUS appointees lying in their senate confirmation hearings? Sorry that the Republicans outsmarted the Democrats.....
It should be the gay persons decision as to whether the artist is "inspired" and if they give shitty service, I'm sure they'll get poor reviews on Yelp. But they don't get the opportunity to get shitty service and you're fine with that. What a philosophy to live by.
What services or who you might want to deny service to?
As an aside, how would you describe repubs and their current values? Honest? God fearing? Real American values?
I've already answered that I wouldn't deny service to anyone, even you. That's the difference. I can tolerate you but you can't tolerate me because you think you're better than me. What a philosophy to live by. You don't know me. You don't know the good that I've done in this world.
I don't think I'm better than you but I am sure as hell a lot more tolerant than you. If I owned a business, I'd tolerate you because I wouldn't ask you your political affiliation. See the difference?
You may have done good in this world but It'll be negated with your purported vote for POOTWH.
We are talking about reasons to deny someone a service. Would you deny me a service knowing that I voted for Trump?
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