#46 President Joe Biden
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JB16057 said:Biden's plan to pull the US out of Afghanistan was highly flawed and 13 U.S. Troops lost their lives. The Taliban took control of the country before we were even able to fully withdraw.
Biden promised to evacuate every US citizen from Afghanistan that wanted to leave. Why does no one hold him to his promise? How many of these US citizens have died because Biden abandoned them there?
How many Afghans died due to Biden pulling us out of Afghanistan?
Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!!Holy effin chit man ARE YOU SERIOUS.????
Trump, with a FULL YEAR LEFT IN HIS TERM, IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 made and agreement with the TALIBAN, to lower troop levels under 9k, which destabilized the Afghan govt.
Trump, made and agreement with the TALIBAN, for the US to withdraw within a year, but didn’t have the courage to keep his promise. Biden had the courage to end this twenty year republican war, with an unfortunate terrorist attack, by an terrorist organization that was allowed to thrive in afghan, because of the withdrawal of the majority of US forces led to increased instability in Afghanistan
….Top US general says Afghan collapse can be traced to Trump-Taliban deal
Trump-Taliban deal had 'psychological' effect on Afghan government says top US general – videoThe collapse of the Afghan government and its security forces can be traced to a 2020 agreement between the Taliban and the Trump administration that promised a complete US troop withdrawal, senior Pentagon officials have told Congress.
Gen Frank McKenzie, the head of central command, told the House armed services committee that once the US troop presence was pushed below 2,500 as part of President Joe Biden’s decision in April to complete a total withdrawal by September, the unraveling of the US-backed Afghan government accelerated.
“The signing of the Doha agreement had a really pernicious effect on the government of Afghanistan and on its military, psychological more than anything else, but we set a date – certain for when we were going to leave and when they could expect all assistance to end,” McKenzie said.
He was referring to a 29 February 2020, agreement that the Trump administration signed with the Taliban in Doha, Qatar, in which the US promised to fully withdraw its troops by May 2021 and the Taliban committed to several conditions, including stopping attacks on American and coalition forces. The stated objective was to promote a peace negotiation between the Taliban and the Afghan government, but that diplomatic effort never gained traction before Biden took office in January.
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The Juggler said:Shhhh....nobody tell who's plan that actually was. His mind will literally explode.Thanks Juggler, I was getting worried no one was pointing this out, it was actually trumps plan and trump was the one that created a safer space for terrorists to operate in Afghanistan by lowering troop levels dramatically, telling the world the US is getting out within a year (we all know keeping classified information a secret is not his strength) and the failing to execute his plan, leaving the skeleton crew in afghan exposed.0
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lindamarie73 said:I gotta hand it to you JB, you still try to engage with the Rotten Brain…Let me give you a little advice…Be a TROLL as they like to call it…It’s a lot more fun and trust me it makes their head spin. As you know They counter a non conformist by teaming up and beating you up every which way they can for acceptance. It’s pretty obvious the real world friend pool is non existent to some with the amount of time some spend on here. I always think It must really suck to be that lonely to find purpose on a rock n roll forum….There is nothing you will ever say that will change a rotten brain…they simply hate you, Funny how that works w/ the inclusive Left…
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MahaloDo you even know the afghan withdrawal plan was devised by trump?
do you even know it was trump who lowered troop levels dangerously for a full year?Do you even know trump did not have the courage to follow through with his exit plan, which created a dangerous environment for the few remaining troops within Afghanistan?
are you done sharing dangerous inaccuracies of fact to justify your support of a cop killer for president?0 -
But you are most assuredly NOT in the same boat. You're not even in the water dude.JB16057 said:And I'm in the same boat with the Republican party yet I get demonized for it. Trump is not my pick for President but if that's all I have VS a Democrat that I can't get behind, I'm stuck but I won't be voting for Joe Biden.
The Democrat party are keeping Joe on the ballot because if he announced he wasn't going to run, the next most logical choice would be Kamala and she is an absolute disaster.
Donald Trump tried, unsuccessfully to dismantle our democracy. He will attempt to do so again, if he does not end up in prison for his first failed attempt. There is no comparison to Donald Trump. None. This is by no means a lesser of two evils situation we were presented with over and over again prior to 2016, my man.
Voting for Trump once was reprehensible.
Voting for Trump twice was idiotic.
Voting for Trump a THIRD TIME should be grounds for deportation as far as I am concerned.www.myspace.com0 -
At least 937,000 people have been killed by direct war violence in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan. The number of people who have been wounded or have fallen ill as a result of the conflicts is far higher, as is the number of civilians who have died indirectly as a result of the destruction of hospitals and infrastructure and environmental contamination, among other war-related problems.
Thousands of United States service members have died in combat, as have thousands of civilian contractors. Many have died later on from injuries and illnesses sustained in the war zones. Hundreds of thousands of soldiers and contractors have been wounded and are living with disabilities and war-related illnesses. Allied security forces have also suffered significant casualties, as have opposition forces.
Far more of the people killed have been civilians. More than 387,000 civilians have been killed in the fighting since 2001.
Millions of people living in the war zones have also been displaced by war. The U.S. post-9/11 wars have forcibly displaced at least 38 million people in and from Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, the Philippines, Libya and Syria. This number exceeds the total displaced by every war since 1900, except World War II.
The U.S. could have pursued several nonmilitary alternatives to holding accountable those responsible for perpetrating the 9/11 attacks. These alternatives would have been far less costly in human lives. For example, the U.S. invasion of Iraq turned the country into a laboratory in which militant groups such as Islamic State have been able to hone their techniques of recruitment and violence. The formation of Islamist militant groups spreading throughout the region counts among the many human costs of that war.
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human
Tell me how mad you are about 13 people dying under Biden's watch that led to the direct result of getting us out of that meat grinder money hole.
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Trump invited the damn Taliban to Camp David for christ's sake lolLerxst1992 said:Thanks Juggler, I was getting worried no one was pointing this out, it was actually trumps plan and trump was the one that created a safer space for terrorists to operate in Afghanistan by lowering troop levels dramatically, telling the world the US is getting out within a year (we all know keeping classified information a secret is not his strength) and the failing to execute his plan, leaving the skeleton crew in afghan exposed.
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A skeleton crew of 2500. Imagine that? And to telegraph it and announce it, plus agree to release 5000 Taliban terrorist prisoners first, as a condition? The level of misinformed or ignorance about geopolitical events and US involvement is astounding. Some might still think that iraq had WMD.Lerxst1992 said:Thanks Juggler, I was getting worried no one was pointing this out, it was actually trumps plan and trump was the one that created a safer space for terrorists to operate in Afghanistan by lowering troop levels dramatically, telling the world the US is getting out within a year (we all know keeping classified information a secret is not his strength) and the failing to execute his plan, leaving the skeleton crew in afghan exposed.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Grounds for deportation? That is pathetic.The Juggler said:But you are most assuredly NOT in the same boat. You're not even in the water dude.
Donald Trump tried, unsuccessfully to dismantle our democracy. He will attempt to do so again, if he does not end up in prison for his first failed attempt. There is no comparison to Donald Trump. None. This is by no means a lesser of two evils situation we were presented with over and over again prior to 2016, my man.
Voting for Trump once was reprehensible.
Voting for Trump twice was idiotic.
Voting for Trump a THIRD TIME should be grounds for deportation as far as I am concerned.
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If Trump is responsible for killing cops then you better make sure he gets charged with that crime. How is that prosecution going for you? Until he is charged with that crime, you are making shit up.Lerxst1992 said:Biden attempted to do something extremely difficult. Trump had four years to get out and didn’t have the courage to execute the plan he agreed to with the taliban. Biden did not cause the death of anyone, terrorists led by a terrorist organization did. Just like the J6 terrorists did under trump’s direction
And I hate to tell you that Afghan exit plan was developed by the Trump administration and tied Bidens hands.Telling lies about biden is a direct way of supporting cop killer trump.0 -
Would you rather have the military in Afghanistan and still spending billions. Are you mad at the tens of thousands of civilians killed and the thousands of US service members and contractors over 20 years? Or just the 13 that died when Biden finally got us out of the mess? If so why does that 13 effect you more than the previous thousands?JB16057 said:Grounds for deportation? That is pathetic.Scio me nihil scire
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Biden killed 13 US Troops.static111 said:Would you rather have the military in Afghanistan and still spending billions. Are you mad at the tens of thousands of civilians killed and the thousands of US service members and contractors over 20 years? Or just the 13 that died when Biden finally got us out of the mess? If so why does that 13 effect you more than the previous thousands?0 -
Has he been charged with a crime? Until he is, you’re just making shit up.JB16057 said:Biden killed 13 US Troops.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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That is really an excellent point you've made there. I'm glad we can agree on this.Halifax2TheMax said:Has he been charged with a crime? Until he is, you’re just making shit up.0 -
Who do you believe will be convicted of a crime first, POOTWH or the Brandon Crime Family?JB16057 said:That is really an excellent point you've made there. I'm glad we can agree on this.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Only time will tell. Fuck the both of them.Halifax2TheMax said:Who do you believe will be convicted of a crime first, POOTWH or the Brandon Crime Family?0 -
Lerxst1992 said:Do you even know the afghan withdrawal plan was devised by trump?
do you even know it was trump who lowered troop levels dangerously for a full year?Do you even know trump did not have the courage to follow through with his exit plan, which created a dangerous environment for the few remaining troops within Afghanistan?
are you done sharing dangerous inaccuracies of fact to justify your support of a cop killer for president?
more important question than the above is do you even care?
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Did you know that when Biden took office that on his first day he reversed many of Trump's policies? He could've done the same thing with Afghanistan but he didn't.mickeyrat said:
If Trump lowered the level dangerously for a year, why weren't there issues before Biden took office?
Biden was courageous enough to follow through with Trump's exit plan knowing that it created a dangerous environment for the few remaining troops within Afghanistan.
Trump didn't kill cops yet I'm the one being accused of sharing dangerous inaccuracies. If Trump killed cops, he should be killed, right? A life for a life sound fair? By spreading this lie, it could set off one of you crazy ass Democrats and they could murder Trump because they were told that Trump killed cops.
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JB16057 said:Did you know that when Biden took office that on his first day he reversed many of Trump's policies? He could've done the same thing with Afghanistan but he didn't.
If Trump lowered the level dangerously for a year, why weren't there issues before Biden took office?
Biden was courageous enough to follow through with Trump's exit plan knowing that it created a dangerous environment for the few remaining troops within Afghanistan.
Trump didn't kill cops yet I'm the one being accused of sharing dangerous inaccuracies. If Trump killed cops, he should be killed, right? A life for a life sound fair? By spreading this lie, it could set off one of you crazy ass Democrats and they could murder Trump because they were told that Trump killed cops.
Do you even care?that was a signed "international" agreement not a domestic policy or even a foriegn relations policy.the other reversals were largely executive orders , were they not?happens from one admin to the next. you would appear to disagree for bidens reasons for those reversals, but please acknowledge that this thing is fairly standard from one to the next.hell, all the current candidates for the gop are stating a whole host of "DAY 1" activities. all would be in the realm of executive orders.....so biden backs out and by doing so effectively says the US cant be trusted to keep its word in formal agreements. Where does that leave the US on the international stage?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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perspective....13 US soldiers and 3 British soldiers died in order that over 100k people could escape......surely more would have been able to but for the taliban clamping down on evacuation
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How many Americans did Biden abandon in Afghanistan after he promised to evacuate all US Citizens that wanted to get out? How many of those citizens have been tortured and murdered by the Taliban. Biden broke that promise.mickeyrat said:perspective....13 US soldiers and 3 British soldiers died in order that over 100k people could escape......surely more would have been able to but for the taliban clamping down on evacuation0
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