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People make statements all the time. The FBI needs a way to record that information. It doesn't mean they don't get investigated, but they are unverified by their very definition.JB16057 said:
So what you're saying is that FD 1023s must be just like a Pearl Jam Message Board? It's all just a bunch of bullshit that no one will ever look into because no one should care?mrussel1 said:
A whistleblower is a federal employee who receives certain protections. The first person who made accusations was Gal Luft, who was recently indicted for spying and arms dealing. He's on the lam. The GOP calls him a "whistleblower". He is NOT that. He is an "informant", and an accused criminal. So let's get that straight.JB16057 said:
There are whistleblowers backing these accusations. I don't know if it is true or not but I'd like to know that the FD 1023 has proven to be false. Has it?mrussel1 said:
For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person. There is no fact checking or evidence required. I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader. And they will create a 1023.TJ25487 said:I can't let the week go by without helping to inform you guys about your buddy Joe Bribem. For some reason you guys don't seem to shop at certain news organizations that actually report his nefarious side. Hmmmmmm.
Mickey may doubt this as it may not get covered by the AP, Reuters, NYT or WP but I hope an official FBI 1023 form will be ok?Here’s Everything In The Damning FD-1023 Document That Implicates Biden In An International Bribery Scheme
damning FD-1023 document detailing then-Vice President Joe Biden’s Burisma bribery scheme was made public on Thursday by Sen. Chuck Grassley. The record shows Biden fired a Ukrainian prosecutor tasked with investigating the energy company his son was a board member of in exchange for a total of $10 million.
Delaware prosecutors hid the document from IRS investigators who say it would have aided their tax crime probe. The FBI, similarly, stonewalled publicizing the bombshell form, which earned FBI Director Christopher Wray the ire of Grassley and other Republicans focused on exposing Biden family corruption. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer even threatened to hold Wray in contempt unless he obeyed subpoenas and handed over the document.
Grassley now possesses the record, which was always unclassified, and chose to share it with the public so Americans are aware of the impeachable, international corruption plaguing our chief of state, despite his incessant denials that he knows anything about his son’s overseas business dealings.
“For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme,” Grassley said in a statement. “While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out.”
Here’s everything we know about the Bidens’ shady involvement with Ukrainian energy executives from the form FD-1023.
Burisma Hired Hunter To ‘Protect Us, Through His Dad’
In a 2015 or 2016 meeting with Burisma executives in Ukraine, the unnamed confidential human source said he heard from the company’s CFO Vadim Pojarskii that Hunter Biden was hired to the board of directors to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” The CHS claims Pojarskii did not elaborate on that allegation.
When asked on the 2020 campaign trail whether it was wrong for Hunter “to take that position, knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you,” Biden claimed, “That’s not true.”
“You’re saying things you do not know what you’re talking about,” Biden replied curtly. “No one said that. Who said that?”
Biden Was Key To Burisma’s U.S. Dealings
In a different Vienna, Austria coffee shop meeting around the same time then-Vice President Biden called for the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, Burisma CEO and founder Mykola Zlochevsky waved off the CHS’s concerns about completing a U.S. deal amid Shokin’s investigation into Burisma.
“Don’t worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad,” Zlochevsky said.
Burisma Was Not Innocent
No matter how many times the CHS tried to convince Zlochevsky that creating a U.S. entity or buying a “corporate shell” would be a cheaper way to put down business roots in the Western part of the world, the Burisma CEO refused. Instead, Zlochevsky that Hunter “advised Burisma it could raise much more capital if Burisma purchased a larger US-based business that already had a history In the US oil and gas sector.”
“CHS advised Zlochevsky it would be problematic to raise capital in the US given Shokin’s investigation into Burisma as nobody in the US would invest in a company that was the subject of a criminal investigation,” the form notes. “CHS suggested it would best if Burisma simply litigate the matter in Ukraine, and pay some attorney $50,000.”
Zlochevsky replied that Burisma would not survive a trial “because he could not show that Burisma was innocent.”
Hunter and Joe Accepted $10 Million Bribe To Fire Problematic Ukraine Prosecutor
In that same meeting, Zlochevsky claimed: “It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.”
Later in the conversation, he told CHS, “It’s too late to change his decision” to keep the Bidens involved in the company’s wheeling and dealings.
“CHS understood this to mean that Zlochevsky had already paid the Bidens, presumably to deal with Shokin,” the document states.
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky confirmed Shokin was fired and expressed confidence that “nobody would find out about his financial dealings with the Bidens.”
Hunter Biden Was Not Qualified To Be On Burisma’s Board
Hunter received approximately $50,000 a month to sit on Burisma’s board, but not even the company’s executives were fooled into believing he deserved to be there.
In his meeting with the CHS in Kyiv, Pojarskii admitted that Hunter “was not smart,” which is why the company required extra assistance and counsel when it came to possibly merging with a U.S.-based oil and gas company.
In the CHS’s meeting in Vienna, Zlochevsky claimed Hunter “was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter.” Zlochevsky said Burisma merely kept Hunter employed “so everything will be okay.”
When asked about his son, Biden often claims Hunter is a “very bright guy” and “the smartest guy I know.”
Joe Biden Told Burisma Not To Fire Hunter
When the CHS asked if either Hunter or Joe demanded Burisma keep Hunter on the board, Zlochevsky said, “They both did.”
The CHS encouraged Zlochevsky to move ahead with removing the Bidens “so that the matter will remain an issue in Ukraine, and not turn into some international matter,” but Zlochevsky declined.
“Don’t worry, this thing will go away anyway,” he reassured the CHS.
Bidens Coerced Burisma Execs To Pay Them Off
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky expressed unhappiness that former President Donald Trump won the election because “he didn’t want to pay the Bidens and he was ‘pushed to pay’ them.”
The Russian term Zlochevsky used to describe how he felt, the CHS clarified, is Russian criminal slang for “forced or coerced to pay.” Zlochevsky said he not only possessed communications about his payment to the Bidens but also recordings proving he was forced.
When the CHS said Zlochevsky “should make certain that he should retain those recordings,” the Burisma executive scrambled.
“Zlochevsky asked whether it would make any (legal) difference whether he voluntarily made such payments, or if he was forced to make them. Zlochevsky then asked CHS whether CHS could provide any assistance in Ukraine (with the Poroshenko regime) if something were to happen to Zlochevsky in the future. CHS replied that CHS didn’t want to get involved in any
such matters,” the document states.Zlochevsky Sent Payments To Bidens Through Indirect Accounts
Zlochevsky’s scrambling continued in a 2019 phone call with the CHS in which he expressed worry that investigators were catching onto the Burisma Biden bribery scandal.
In that conversation, Zlochevsky admitted he “did not send any funds directly to the ‘Big Guy’ (which CHS understood was a reference to Joe Biden).”Zlochevsky then declared it would take investigators at least a decade to uncover the illegal bribes to Joe.
This confession confirms what House Republicans suspected and subsequently proved about how the Bidens received their payments.
One Guy Present For Biden Bribery Meetings Works For Zelensky
At the end of the document is a statement noting that Oleksandr Ostapenko, who was present at several of the meetings between the CHS and Burisma executives and “introduced CHS into this matter,” now works for Ukraine head Volodymyr Zelensky’s regime. This is significant considering the Biden administration has funneled billions of dollars to the Zelensky regime, which is warring with Russia, without any semblance of accountability.
How do you not understand this? How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence? Give me a fucking break.
My understanding is this "latest" 1023 is anonymous. So we cannot call them a whistleblower by any stretch. And considering the history of baseless accusations, I know where my money is.
And for the record, the burden of proof is not on Biden, the DOJ or anyone to prove that the 1023 is false. I have been searching for the last 20 minutes for evidence that TJ is not trafficking on the 10C website, but I have not been able to do so yet. So.. does that mean he is?
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It’s very much on topic as a bullshit source of TJ’s breathless article that’s supposed to inform us. Truth hurt much?JB16057 said:
This is the Joe Biden thread. Can you follow the rules and stay on topic?Halifax2TheMax said:I love it when posters show us who they align with. It helps with understanding their views.Roy MooreEdit
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What????JB16057 said:
I'll add to this... Aren't all the cases and issues with Trump being dealt with? He was just given another court date this morning. That process is working on it's own.JB16057 said:
BUT TRUMP!!!The Juggler said:
They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal.mrussel1 said:
For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person. There is no fact checking or evidence required. I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader. And they will create a 1023.TJ25487 said:
How do you not understand this? How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence? Give me a fucking break.
There are no whistleblowers coming out and saying that the cases against Trump are being slow walked.
Trump is not my first choice but I'll most likely be voting for whomever the Republican nominee is. If Trump is the guy, that's who I'm voting for. I'm not going to switch my political preference nor will I deny my right to vote for the political party that I most closely align with just because the Pearl Jam message board tells me not to. All of you were bitching about how Trump was going to destroy Democracy in his first term. Did that ever happen? No. It was something you all made up.
Holy shit. He is likely to be indicted in the coming days for, among other things, attempting to do just that. And then he is likely to be indicted in Georgia for doing just that in a different way.
I cannot fathom being this uninformed. This is what happens when you live in a right wing echosphere and get your news from places like The Federalist and Chuck Grassley.
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You voted for him twice and said you will vote for him a third time. The fact that you cannot defend him is a sad reflection on the republican party.JB16057 said:
I don't feel the need to defend Trump. I don't like Trump. This is the Joe Biden thread but I know that's really hard for you because all you want to talk about is Trump.The Juggler said:
Upset that you are still unable to defend Trump? Understandable for sure, but one wonders why you continually walk straight into these situations again and again...JB16057 said:
BUT TRUMP!!!The Juggler said:
They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal.mrussel1 said:
For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person. There is no fact checking or evidence required. I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader. And they will create a 1023.TJ25487 said:
How do you not understand this? How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence? Give me a fucking break.www.myspace.com0 -
Check your source TJ. If Grassley’s bombshell revelation was a bombshell, the media, including faux, newslax, britefart, OANanal would be all over it and it’d be trending on Google. Meanwhile, your source is a repository of reporting false and misleading information and appears to endorse child sex trafficking. Enjoy your cult.TJ25487 said:
So your telling me "if it's printed then it must be true" and then you point me to printed Wikipedia info to prove it isn't true. Ok I give up. You got me. I've just been arrested by the fact police! If you can show me where Nina Jankowicz says it's not true then I'll never post on here again. Haha!Halifax2TheMax said:
Sure TJ, because if it was printed, it must be true, right? Like I said, enjoy your cult. Are you donating to POOTWH with “For prosecution of the Brandon Crime Family,” in the memo?TJ25487 said:
Here you go my friend. A link to the truthHalifax2TheMax said:
Why no link? Poorly written article and/or FBI report. But I’ll ask, who’s the CHS? Putin on the ritz or Ruddy Ghouliani? Let me know when the doddering old fool, stupid as a dog Brandon Crime Family is indicted and is allowed to confront their accusers and be judged by a jury of their peers. In the meantime, enjoy your cult.TJ25487 said:I can't let the week go by without helping to inform you guys about your buddy Joe Bribem. For some reason you guys don't seem to shop at certain news organizations that actually report his nefarious side. Hmmmmmm.
Mickey may doubt this as it may not get covered by the AP, Reuters, NYT or WP but I hope an official FBI 1023 form will be ok?Here’s Everything In The Damning FD-1023 Document That Implicates Biden In An International Bribery Scheme
damning FD-1023 document detailing then-Vice President Joe Biden’s Burisma bribery scheme was made public on Thursday by Sen. Chuck Grassley. The record shows Biden fired a Ukrainian prosecutor tasked with investigating the energy company his son was a board member of in exchange for a total of $10 million.
Delaware prosecutors hid the document from IRS investigators who say it would have aided their tax crime probe. The FBI, similarly, stonewalled publicizing the bombshell form, which earned FBI Director Christopher Wray the ire of Grassley and other Republicans focused on exposing Biden family corruption. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer even threatened to hold Wray in contempt unless he obeyed subpoenas and handed over the document.
Grassley now possesses the record, which was always unclassified, and chose to share it with the public so Americans are aware of the impeachable, international corruption plaguing our chief of state, despite his incessant denials that he knows anything about his son’s overseas business dealings.
“For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme,” Grassley said in a statement. “While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out.”
Here’s everything we know about the Bidens’ shady involvement with Ukrainian energy executives from the form FD-1023.
Burisma Hired Hunter To ‘Protect Us, Through His Dad’
In a 2015 or 2016 meeting with Burisma executives in Ukraine, the unnamed confidential human source said he heard from the company’s CFO Vadim Pojarskii that Hunter Biden was hired to the board of directors to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” The CHS claims Pojarskii did not elaborate on that allegation.
When asked on the 2020 campaign trail whether it was wrong for Hunter “to take that position, knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you,” Biden claimed, “That’s not true.”
“You’re saying things you do not know what you’re talking about,” Biden replied curtly. “No one said that. Who said that?”
Biden Was Key To Burisma’s U.S. Dealings
In a different Vienna, Austria coffee shop meeting around the same time then-Vice President Biden called for the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, Burisma CEO and founder Mykola Zlochevsky waved off the CHS’s concerns about completing a U.S. deal amid Shokin’s investigation into Burisma.
“Don’t worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad,” Zlochevsky said.
Burisma Was Not Innocent
No matter how many times the CHS tried to convince Zlochevsky that creating a U.S. entity or buying a “corporate shell” would be a cheaper way to put down business roots in the Western part of the world, the Burisma CEO refused. Instead, Zlochevsky that Hunter “advised Burisma it could raise much more capital if Burisma purchased a larger US-based business that already had a history In the US oil and gas sector.”
“CHS advised Zlochevsky it would be problematic to raise capital in the US given Shokin’s investigation into Burisma as nobody in the US would invest in a company that was the subject of a criminal investigation,” the form notes. “CHS suggested it would best if Burisma simply litigate the matter in Ukraine, and pay some attorney $50,000.”
Zlochevsky replied that Burisma would not survive a trial “because he could not show that Burisma was innocent.”
Hunter and Joe Accepted $10 Million Bribe To Fire Problematic Ukraine Prosecutor
In that same meeting, Zlochevsky claimed: “It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.”
Later in the conversation, he told CHS, “It’s too late to change his decision” to keep the Bidens involved in the company’s wheeling and dealings.
“CHS understood this to mean that Zlochevsky had already paid the Bidens, presumably to deal with Shokin,” the document states.
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky confirmed Shokin was fired and expressed confidence that “nobody would find out about his financial dealings with the Bidens.”
Hunter Biden Was Not Qualified To Be On Burisma’s Board
Hunter received approximately $50,000 a month to sit on Burisma’s board, but not even the company’s executives were fooled into believing he deserved to be there.
In his meeting with the CHS in Kyiv, Pojarskii admitted that Hunter “was not smart,” which is why the company required extra assistance and counsel when it came to possibly merging with a U.S.-based oil and gas company.
In the CHS’s meeting in Vienna, Zlochevsky claimed Hunter “was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter.” Zlochevsky said Burisma merely kept Hunter employed “so everything will be okay.”
When asked about his son, Biden often claims Hunter is a “very bright guy” and “the smartest guy I know.”
Joe Biden Told Burisma Not To Fire Hunter
When the CHS asked if either Hunter or Joe demanded Burisma keep Hunter on the board, Zlochevsky said, “They both did.”
The CHS encouraged Zlochevsky to move ahead with removing the Bidens “so that the matter will remain an issue in Ukraine, and not turn into some international matter,” but Zlochevsky declined.
“Don’t worry, this thing will go away anyway,” he reassured the CHS.
Bidens Coerced Burisma Execs To Pay Them Off
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky expressed unhappiness that former President Donald Trump won the election because “he didn’t want to pay the Bidens and he was ‘pushed to pay’ them.”
The Russian term Zlochevsky used to describe how he felt, the CHS clarified, is Russian criminal slang for “forced or coerced to pay.” Zlochevsky said he not only possessed communications about his payment to the Bidens but also recordings proving he was forced.
When the CHS said Zlochevsky “should make certain that he should retain those recordings,” the Burisma executive scrambled.
“Zlochevsky asked whether it would make any (legal) difference whether he voluntarily made such payments, or if he was forced to make them. Zlochevsky then asked CHS whether CHS could provide any assistance in Ukraine (with the Poroshenko regime) if something were to happen to Zlochevsky in the future. CHS replied that CHS didn’t want to get involved in any
such matters,” the document states.Zlochevsky Sent Payments To Bidens Through Indirect Accounts
Zlochevsky’s scrambling continued in a 2019 phone call with the CHS in which he expressed worry that investigators were catching onto the Burisma Biden bribery scandal.
In that conversation, Zlochevsky admitted he “did not send any funds directly to the ‘Big Guy’ (which CHS understood was a reference to Joe Biden).”Zlochevsky then declared it would take investigators at least a decade to uncover the illegal bribes to Joe.
This confession confirms what House Republicans suspected and subsequently proved about how the Bidens received their payments.
One Guy Present For Biden Bribery Meetings Works For Zelensky
At the end of the document is a statement noting that Oleksandr Ostapenko, who was present at several of the meetings between the CHS and Burisma executives and “introduced CHS into this matter,” now works for Ukraine head Volodymyr Zelensky’s regime. This is significant considering the Biden administration has funneled billions of dollars to the Zelensky regime, which is warring with Russia, without any semblance of accountability.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/07/20/heres-everything-in-the-damning-fd-1023-document-that-implicates-biden-in-an-international-bribery-scheme/
As far as when and if Pedo Joe will be indicted I find it highly doubtful with all the corruption that has been protecting him and Obama for many years. I mean, holy shit if you guys aren't aware of all the corruption at the CIA, FBI, DOJ, IRS Dems, Repubs etc. then nobody can help you.
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Oh I'm sure the FBLie will verify this 1023 just like they verfied the Steele Dossier. Nothing to see here. Move along.mrussel1 said:
People make statements all the time. The FBI needs a way to record that information. It doesn't mean they don't get investigated, but they are unverified by their very definition.JB16057 said:
So what you're saying is that FD 1023s must be just like a Pearl Jam Message Board? It's all just a bunch of bullshit that no one will ever look into because no one should care?mrussel1 said:
A whistleblower is a federal employee who receives certain protections. The first person who made accusations was Gal Luft, who was recently indicted for spying and arms dealing. He's on the lam. The GOP calls him a "whistleblower". He is NOT that. He is an "informant", and an accused criminal. So let's get that straight.JB16057 said:
There are whistleblowers backing these accusations. I don't know if it is true or not but I'd like to know that the FD 1023 has proven to be false. Has it?mrussel1 said:
For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person. There is no fact checking or evidence required. I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader. And they will create a 1023.TJ25487 said:I can't let the week go by without helping to inform you guys about your buddy Joe Bribem. For some reason you guys don't seem to shop at certain news organizations that actually report his nefarious side. Hmmmmmm.
Mickey may doubt this as it may not get covered by the AP, Reuters, NYT or WP but I hope an official FBI 1023 form will be ok?Here’s Everything In The Damning FD-1023 Document That Implicates Biden In An International Bribery Scheme
damning FD-1023 document detailing then-Vice President Joe Biden’s Burisma bribery scheme was made public on Thursday by Sen. Chuck Grassley. The record shows Biden fired a Ukrainian prosecutor tasked with investigating the energy company his son was a board member of in exchange for a total of $10 million.
Delaware prosecutors hid the document from IRS investigators who say it would have aided their tax crime probe. The FBI, similarly, stonewalled publicizing the bombshell form, which earned FBI Director Christopher Wray the ire of Grassley and other Republicans focused on exposing Biden family corruption. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer even threatened to hold Wray in contempt unless he obeyed subpoenas and handed over the document.
Grassley now possesses the record, which was always unclassified, and chose to share it with the public so Americans are aware of the impeachable, international corruption plaguing our chief of state, despite his incessant denials that he knows anything about his son’s overseas business dealings.
“For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme,” Grassley said in a statement. “While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out.”
Here’s everything we know about the Bidens’ shady involvement with Ukrainian energy executives from the form FD-1023.
Burisma Hired Hunter To ‘Protect Us, Through His Dad’
In a 2015 or 2016 meeting with Burisma executives in Ukraine, the unnamed confidential human source said he heard from the company’s CFO Vadim Pojarskii that Hunter Biden was hired to the board of directors to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” The CHS claims Pojarskii did not elaborate on that allegation.
When asked on the 2020 campaign trail whether it was wrong for Hunter “to take that position, knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you,” Biden claimed, “That’s not true.”
“You’re saying things you do not know what you’re talking about,” Biden replied curtly. “No one said that. Who said that?”
Biden Was Key To Burisma’s U.S. Dealings
In a different Vienna, Austria coffee shop meeting around the same time then-Vice President Biden called for the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, Burisma CEO and founder Mykola Zlochevsky waved off the CHS’s concerns about completing a U.S. deal amid Shokin’s investigation into Burisma.
“Don’t worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad,” Zlochevsky said.
Burisma Was Not Innocent
No matter how many times the CHS tried to convince Zlochevsky that creating a U.S. entity or buying a “corporate shell” would be a cheaper way to put down business roots in the Western part of the world, the Burisma CEO refused. Instead, Zlochevsky that Hunter “advised Burisma it could raise much more capital if Burisma purchased a larger US-based business that already had a history In the US oil and gas sector.”
“CHS advised Zlochevsky it would be problematic to raise capital in the US given Shokin’s investigation into Burisma as nobody in the US would invest in a company that was the subject of a criminal investigation,” the form notes. “CHS suggested it would best if Burisma simply litigate the matter in Ukraine, and pay some attorney $50,000.”
Zlochevsky replied that Burisma would not survive a trial “because he could not show that Burisma was innocent.”
Hunter and Joe Accepted $10 Million Bribe To Fire Problematic Ukraine Prosecutor
In that same meeting, Zlochevsky claimed: “It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.”
Later in the conversation, he told CHS, “It’s too late to change his decision” to keep the Bidens involved in the company’s wheeling and dealings.
“CHS understood this to mean that Zlochevsky had already paid the Bidens, presumably to deal with Shokin,” the document states.
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky confirmed Shokin was fired and expressed confidence that “nobody would find out about his financial dealings with the Bidens.”
Hunter Biden Was Not Qualified To Be On Burisma’s Board
Hunter received approximately $50,000 a month to sit on Burisma’s board, but not even the company’s executives were fooled into believing he deserved to be there.
In his meeting with the CHS in Kyiv, Pojarskii admitted that Hunter “was not smart,” which is why the company required extra assistance and counsel when it came to possibly merging with a U.S.-based oil and gas company.
In the CHS’s meeting in Vienna, Zlochevsky claimed Hunter “was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter.” Zlochevsky said Burisma merely kept Hunter employed “so everything will be okay.”
When asked about his son, Biden often claims Hunter is a “very bright guy” and “the smartest guy I know.”
Joe Biden Told Burisma Not To Fire Hunter
When the CHS asked if either Hunter or Joe demanded Burisma keep Hunter on the board, Zlochevsky said, “They both did.”
The CHS encouraged Zlochevsky to move ahead with removing the Bidens “so that the matter will remain an issue in Ukraine, and not turn into some international matter,” but Zlochevsky declined.
“Don’t worry, this thing will go away anyway,” he reassured the CHS.
Bidens Coerced Burisma Execs To Pay Them Off
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky expressed unhappiness that former President Donald Trump won the election because “he didn’t want to pay the Bidens and he was ‘pushed to pay’ them.”
The Russian term Zlochevsky used to describe how he felt, the CHS clarified, is Russian criminal slang for “forced or coerced to pay.” Zlochevsky said he not only possessed communications about his payment to the Bidens but also recordings proving he was forced.
When the CHS said Zlochevsky “should make certain that he should retain those recordings,” the Burisma executive scrambled.
“Zlochevsky asked whether it would make any (legal) difference whether he voluntarily made such payments, or if he was forced to make them. Zlochevsky then asked CHS whether CHS could provide any assistance in Ukraine (with the Poroshenko regime) if something were to happen to Zlochevsky in the future. CHS replied that CHS didn’t want to get involved in any
such matters,” the document states.Zlochevsky Sent Payments To Bidens Through Indirect Accounts
Zlochevsky’s scrambling continued in a 2019 phone call with the CHS in which he expressed worry that investigators were catching onto the Burisma Biden bribery scandal.
In that conversation, Zlochevsky admitted he “did not send any funds directly to the ‘Big Guy’ (which CHS understood was a reference to Joe Biden).”Zlochevsky then declared it would take investigators at least a decade to uncover the illegal bribes to Joe.
This confession confirms what House Republicans suspected and subsequently proved about how the Bidens received their payments.
One Guy Present For Biden Bribery Meetings Works For Zelensky
At the end of the document is a statement noting that Oleksandr Ostapenko, who was present at several of the meetings between the CHS and Burisma executives and “introduced CHS into this matter,” now works for Ukraine head Volodymyr Zelensky’s regime. This is significant considering the Biden administration has funneled billions of dollars to the Zelensky regime, which is warring with Russia, without any semblance of accountability.
How do you not understand this? How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence? Give me a fucking break.
My understanding is this "latest" 1023 is anonymous. So we cannot call them a whistleblower by any stretch. And considering the history of baseless accusations, I know where my money is.
And for the record, the burden of proof is not on Biden, the DOJ or anyone to prove that the 1023 is false. I have been searching for the last 20 minutes for evidence that TJ is not trafficking on the 10C website, but I have not been able to do so yet. So.. does that mean he is?
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So you think that Joe Biden should be indicted on the basis of an unverified third hand accusation regarding something said by a Ukrainian oligarch. And this oligarch "Zlovchevsky", was in gov't during Euromaidan and currently wanted by the current Ukrainian gov't. Do I have that correct?TJ25487 said:
Oh I'm sure the FBLie will verify this 1023 just like they verfied the Steele Dossier. Nothing to see here. Move along.mrussel1 said:
People make statements all the time. The FBI needs a way to record that information. It doesn't mean they don't get investigated, but they are unverified by their very definition.JB16057 said:
So what you're saying is that FD 1023s must be just like a Pearl Jam Message Board? It's all just a bunch of bullshit that no one will ever look into because no one should care?mrussel1 said:
A whistleblower is a federal employee who receives certain protections. The first person who made accusations was Gal Luft, who was recently indicted for spying and arms dealing. He's on the lam. The GOP calls him a "whistleblower". He is NOT that. He is an "informant", and an accused criminal. So let's get that straight.JB16057 said:
There are whistleblowers backing these accusations. I don't know if it is true or not but I'd like to know that the FD 1023 has proven to be false. Has it?mrussel1 said:
For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person. There is no fact checking or evidence required. I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader. And they will create a 1023.TJ25487 said:I can't let the week go by without helping to inform you guys about your buddy Joe Bribem. For some reason you guys don't seem to shop at certain news organizations that actually report his nefarious side. Hmmmmmm.
Mickey may doubt this as it may not get covered by the AP, Reuters, NYT or WP but I hope an official FBI 1023 form will be ok?Here’s Everything In The Damning FD-1023 Document That Implicates Biden In An International Bribery Scheme
damning FD-1023 document detailing then-Vice President Joe Biden’s Burisma bribery scheme was made public on Thursday by Sen. Chuck Grassley. The record shows Biden fired a Ukrainian prosecutor tasked with investigating the energy company his son was a board member of in exchange for a total of $10 million.
Delaware prosecutors hid the document from IRS investigators who say it would have aided their tax crime probe. The FBI, similarly, stonewalled publicizing the bombshell form, which earned FBI Director Christopher Wray the ire of Grassley and other Republicans focused on exposing Biden family corruption. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer even threatened to hold Wray in contempt unless he obeyed subpoenas and handed over the document.
Grassley now possesses the record, which was always unclassified, and chose to share it with the public so Americans are aware of the impeachable, international corruption plaguing our chief of state, despite his incessant denials that he knows anything about his son’s overseas business dealings.
“For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme,” Grassley said in a statement. “While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out.”
Here’s everything we know about the Bidens’ shady involvement with Ukrainian energy executives from the form FD-1023.
Burisma Hired Hunter To ‘Protect Us, Through His Dad’
In a 2015 or 2016 meeting with Burisma executives in Ukraine, the unnamed confidential human source said he heard from the company’s CFO Vadim Pojarskii that Hunter Biden was hired to the board of directors to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” The CHS claims Pojarskii did not elaborate on that allegation.
When asked on the 2020 campaign trail whether it was wrong for Hunter “to take that position, knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you,” Biden claimed, “That’s not true.”
“You’re saying things you do not know what you’re talking about,” Biden replied curtly. “No one said that. Who said that?”
Biden Was Key To Burisma’s U.S. Dealings
In a different Vienna, Austria coffee shop meeting around the same time then-Vice President Biden called for the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, Burisma CEO and founder Mykola Zlochevsky waved off the CHS’s concerns about completing a U.S. deal amid Shokin’s investigation into Burisma.
“Don’t worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad,” Zlochevsky said.
Burisma Was Not Innocent
No matter how many times the CHS tried to convince Zlochevsky that creating a U.S. entity or buying a “corporate shell” would be a cheaper way to put down business roots in the Western part of the world, the Burisma CEO refused. Instead, Zlochevsky that Hunter “advised Burisma it could raise much more capital if Burisma purchased a larger US-based business that already had a history In the US oil and gas sector.”
“CHS advised Zlochevsky it would be problematic to raise capital in the US given Shokin’s investigation into Burisma as nobody in the US would invest in a company that was the subject of a criminal investigation,” the form notes. “CHS suggested it would best if Burisma simply litigate the matter in Ukraine, and pay some attorney $50,000.”
Zlochevsky replied that Burisma would not survive a trial “because he could not show that Burisma was innocent.”
Hunter and Joe Accepted $10 Million Bribe To Fire Problematic Ukraine Prosecutor
In that same meeting, Zlochevsky claimed: “It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.”
Later in the conversation, he told CHS, “It’s too late to change his decision” to keep the Bidens involved in the company’s wheeling and dealings.
“CHS understood this to mean that Zlochevsky had already paid the Bidens, presumably to deal with Shokin,” the document states.
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky confirmed Shokin was fired and expressed confidence that “nobody would find out about his financial dealings with the Bidens.”
Hunter Biden Was Not Qualified To Be On Burisma’s Board
Hunter received approximately $50,000 a month to sit on Burisma’s board, but not even the company’s executives were fooled into believing he deserved to be there.
In his meeting with the CHS in Kyiv, Pojarskii admitted that Hunter “was not smart,” which is why the company required extra assistance and counsel when it came to possibly merging with a U.S.-based oil and gas company.
In the CHS’s meeting in Vienna, Zlochevsky claimed Hunter “was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter.” Zlochevsky said Burisma merely kept Hunter employed “so everything will be okay.”
When asked about his son, Biden often claims Hunter is a “very bright guy” and “the smartest guy I know.”
Joe Biden Told Burisma Not To Fire Hunter
When the CHS asked if either Hunter or Joe demanded Burisma keep Hunter on the board, Zlochevsky said, “They both did.”
The CHS encouraged Zlochevsky to move ahead with removing the Bidens “so that the matter will remain an issue in Ukraine, and not turn into some international matter,” but Zlochevsky declined.
“Don’t worry, this thing will go away anyway,” he reassured the CHS.
Bidens Coerced Burisma Execs To Pay Them Off
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky expressed unhappiness that former President Donald Trump won the election because “he didn’t want to pay the Bidens and he was ‘pushed to pay’ them.”
The Russian term Zlochevsky used to describe how he felt, the CHS clarified, is Russian criminal slang for “forced or coerced to pay.” Zlochevsky said he not only possessed communications about his payment to the Bidens but also recordings proving he was forced.
When the CHS said Zlochevsky “should make certain that he should retain those recordings,” the Burisma executive scrambled.
“Zlochevsky asked whether it would make any (legal) difference whether he voluntarily made such payments, or if he was forced to make them. Zlochevsky then asked CHS whether CHS could provide any assistance in Ukraine (with the Poroshenko regime) if something were to happen to Zlochevsky in the future. CHS replied that CHS didn’t want to get involved in any
such matters,” the document states.Zlochevsky Sent Payments To Bidens Through Indirect Accounts
Zlochevsky’s scrambling continued in a 2019 phone call with the CHS in which he expressed worry that investigators were catching onto the Burisma Biden bribery scandal.
In that conversation, Zlochevsky admitted he “did not send any funds directly to the ‘Big Guy’ (which CHS understood was a reference to Joe Biden).”Zlochevsky then declared it would take investigators at least a decade to uncover the illegal bribes to Joe.
This confession confirms what House Republicans suspected and subsequently proved about how the Bidens received their payments.
One Guy Present For Biden Bribery Meetings Works For Zelensky
At the end of the document is a statement noting that Oleksandr Ostapenko, who was present at several of the meetings between the CHS and Burisma executives and “introduced CHS into this matter,” now works for Ukraine head Volodymyr Zelensky’s regime. This is significant considering the Biden administration has funneled billions of dollars to the Zelensky regime, which is warring with Russia, without any semblance of accountability.
How do you not understand this? How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence? Give me a fucking break.
My understanding is this "latest" 1023 is anonymous. So we cannot call them a whistleblower by any stretch. And considering the history of baseless accusations, I know where my money is.
And for the record, the burden of proof is not on Biden, the DOJ or anyone to prove that the 1023 is false. I have been searching for the last 20 minutes for evidence that TJ is not trafficking on the 10C website, but I have not been able to do so yet. So.. does that mean he is?
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Your calling recap of an FBI official document a breathless article huh and yes the truth does hurt. That's why I come here to try and convince you of the truth that is hurting this country and world. I guess you like open borders with drugs pouring in which kill far more people than guns could ever kill. I guess you like lawless streets and cities where people now can not flee fast enough? I guess you like children being groomed without their parents consent? I guess I'm just not seeing the light???Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s very much on topic as a bullshit source of TJ’s breathless article that’s supposed to inform us. Truth hurt much?JB16057 said:
This is the Joe Biden thread. Can you follow the rules and stay on topic?Halifax2TheMax said:I love it when posters show us who they align with. It helps with understanding their views.Roy MooreEdit
In November 2017, The Federalist came under criticism from both conservatives and liberals for publishing an opinion piece by Tully Borland, Ouachita Baptist University philosopher, defending Roy Moore for allegedly dating teenagers while he was in his 30s, and arguing that such behavior was "not without some merit if one wants to raise a large family".[22][14] Noah Rothman of the conservative Commentary magazine stated that the op-ed was "rationalizing away child molestation".[22] Molly Roberts of The Washington Post wrote that the op-ed was "uniquely awful".[23]Ben Domenech defended The Federalist for publishing Borland's op-ed saying the magazine "remains avowedly committed to offering alternative views. For those that have a problem with this, the question is simple: what are you afraid of?"[24]
"Black crime" tagEdit
Until October 2017, The Federalist had a "black crime" tag, which aggregated articles related to criminal activity by African Americans.[25][26] Dan McLaughlin of National Review, a former Federalist contributor, said that the phrasing of the "black crime" tag was "unfortunate", that when he had written for The Federalist he had "never even noticed that there were tags at the bottom of my essays," and that The Federalist "had deleted the tag as soon as it attracted any notice—over a couple of years the tag appeared on only five or six posts."[27]
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We've all been crystal clear that we are against the pervasive grooming by priests, pastors and youth ministers in this country. It is disgusting and has been going on for 250 years almost. It's sickening.TJ25487 said:
Your calling recap of an FBI official document a breathless article huh and yes the truth does hurt. That's why I come here to try and convince you of the truth that is hurting this country and world. I guess you like open borders with drugs pouring in which kill far more people than guns could ever kill. I guess you like lawless streets and cities where people now can not flee fast enough? I guess you like children being groomed without their parents consent? I guess I'm just not seeing the light???Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s very much on topic as a bullshit source of TJ’s breathless article that’s supposed to inform us. Truth hurt much?JB16057 said:
This is the Joe Biden thread. Can you follow the rules and stay on topic?Halifax2TheMax said:I love it when posters show us who they align with. It helps with understanding their views.Roy MooreEdit
In November 2017, The Federalist came under criticism from both conservatives and liberals for publishing an opinion piece by Tully Borland, Ouachita Baptist University philosopher, defending Roy Moore for allegedly dating teenagers while he was in his 30s, and arguing that such behavior was "not without some merit if one wants to raise a large family".[22][14] Noah Rothman of the conservative Commentary magazine stated that the op-ed was "rationalizing away child molestation".[22] Molly Roberts of The Washington Post wrote that the op-ed was "uniquely awful".[23]Ben Domenech defended The Federalist for publishing Borland's op-ed saying the magazine "remains avowedly committed to offering alternative views. For those that have a problem with this, the question is simple: what are you afraid of?"[24]
"Black crime" tagEdit
Until October 2017, The Federalist had a "black crime" tag, which aggregated articles related to criminal activity by African Americans.[25][26] Dan McLaughlin of National Review, a former Federalist contributor, said that the phrasing of the "black crime" tag was "unfortunate", that when he had written for The Federalist he had "never even noticed that there were tags at the bottom of my essays," and that The Federalist "had deleted the tag as soon as it attracted any notice—over a couple of years the tag appeared on only five or six posts."[27]
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And yet you linked your breathless expose from a publication that posted an op/Ed supportive of adults having sex with children and being elected to Congress. And you’re asking me if I’m okay?TJ25487 said:
You’re calling recap of an FBI official document a breathless article huh and yes the truth does hurt. That's why I come here to try and convince you of the truth that is hurting this country and world. I guess you like open borders with drugs pouring in which kill far more people than guns could ever kill. I guess you like lawless streets and cities where people now can not flee fast enough? I guess you like children being groomed without their parents consent? I guess I'm just not seeing the light???Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s very much on topic as a bullshit source of TJ’s breathless article that’s supposed to inform us. Truth hurt much?JB16057 said:
This is the Joe Biden thread. Can you follow the rules and stay on topic?Halifax2TheMax said:I love it when posters show us who they align with. It helps with understanding their views.Roy MooreEdit
In November 2017, The Federalist came under criticism from both conservatives and liberals for publishing an opinion piece by Tully Borland, Ouachita Baptist University philosopher, defending Roy Moore for allegedly dating teenagers while he was in his 30s, and arguing that such behavior was "not without some merit if one wants to raise a large family".[22][14] Noah Rothman of the conservative Commentary magazine stated that the op-ed was "rationalizing away child molestation".[22] Molly Roberts of The Washington Post wrote that the op-ed was "uniquely awful".[23]Ben Domenech defended The Federalist for publishing Borland's op-ed saying the magazine "remains avowedly committed to offering alternative views. For those that have a problem with this, the question is simple: what are you afraid of?"[24]
"Black crime" tagEdit
Until October 2017, The Federalist had a "black crime" tag, which aggregated articles related to criminal activity by African Americans.[25][26] Dan McLaughlin of National Review, a former Federalist contributor, said that the phrasing of the "black crime" tag was "unfortunate", that when he had written for The Federalist he had "never even noticed that there were tags at the bottom of my essays," and that The Federalist "had deleted the tag as soon as it attracted any notice—over a couple of years the tag appeared on only five or six posts."[27]
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I don't like the Republican party. I can't defend them just like you can't defend why Democrats won't be having debates.The Juggler said:
You voted for him twice and said you will vote for him a third time. The fact that you cannot defend him is a sad reflection on the republican party.JB16057 said:
I don't feel the need to defend Trump. I don't like Trump. This is the Joe Biden thread but I know that's really hard for you because all you want to talk about is Trump.The Juggler said:
Upset that you are still unable to defend Trump? Understandable for sure, but one wonders why you continually walk straight into these situations again and again...JB16057 said:
BUT TRUMP!!!The Juggler said:
They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal.mrussel1 said:
For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person. There is no fact checking or evidence required. I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader. And they will create a 1023.TJ25487 said:
How do you not understand this? How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence? Give me a fucking break.
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No, I'm saying they should indict him on facts that should be properly fleshed out by actual investigations and not by their typical cover ups like they have been doing.mrussel1 said:
So you think that Joe Biden should be indicted on the basis of an unverified third hand accusation regarding something said by a Ukrainian oligarch. And this oligarch "Zlovchevsky", was in gov't during Euromaidan and currently wanted by the current Ukrainian gov't. Do I have that correct?TJ25487 said:
Oh I'm sure the FBLie will verify this 1023 just like they verfied the Steele Dossier. Nothing to see here. Move along.mrussel1 said:
People make statements all the time. The FBI needs a way to record that information. It doesn't mean they don't get investigated, but they are unverified by their very definition.JB16057 said:
So what you're saying is that FD 1023s must be just like a Pearl Jam Message Board? It's all just a bunch of bullshit that no one will ever look into because no one should care?mrussel1 said:
A whistleblower is a federal employee who receives certain protections. The first person who made accusations was Gal Luft, who was recently indicted for spying and arms dealing. He's on the lam. The GOP calls him a "whistleblower". He is NOT that. He is an "informant", and an accused criminal. So let's get that straight.JB16057 said:
There are whistleblowers backing these accusations. I don't know if it is true or not but I'd like to know that the FD 1023 has proven to be false. Has it?mrussel1 said:
For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person. There is no fact checking or evidence required. I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader. And they will create a 1023.TJ25487 said:I can't let the week go by without helping to inform you guys about your buddy Joe Bribem. For some reason you guys don't seem to shop at certain news organizations that actually report his nefarious side. Hmmmmmm.
Mickey may doubt this as it may not get covered by the AP, Reuters, NYT or WP but I hope an official FBI 1023 form will be ok?Here’s Everything In The Damning FD-1023 Document That Implicates Biden In An International Bribery Scheme
damning FD-1023 document detailing then-Vice President Joe Biden’s Burisma bribery scheme was made public on Thursday by Sen. Chuck Grassley. The record shows Biden fired a Ukrainian prosecutor tasked with investigating the energy company his son was a board member of in exchange for a total of $10 million.
Delaware prosecutors hid the document from IRS investigators who say it would have aided their tax crime probe. The FBI, similarly, stonewalled publicizing the bombshell form, which earned FBI Director Christopher Wray the ire of Grassley and other Republicans focused on exposing Biden family corruption. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer even threatened to hold Wray in contempt unless he obeyed subpoenas and handed over the document.
Grassley now possesses the record, which was always unclassified, and chose to share it with the public so Americans are aware of the impeachable, international corruption plaguing our chief of state, despite his incessant denials that he knows anything about his son’s overseas business dealings.
“For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme,” Grassley said in a statement. “While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out.”
Here’s everything we know about the Bidens’ shady involvement with Ukrainian energy executives from the form FD-1023.
Burisma Hired Hunter To ‘Protect Us, Through His Dad’
In a 2015 or 2016 meeting with Burisma executives in Ukraine, the unnamed confidential human source said he heard from the company’s CFO Vadim Pojarskii that Hunter Biden was hired to the board of directors to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” The CHS claims Pojarskii did not elaborate on that allegation.
When asked on the 2020 campaign trail whether it was wrong for Hunter “to take that position, knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you,” Biden claimed, “That’s not true.”
“You’re saying things you do not know what you’re talking about,” Biden replied curtly. “No one said that. Who said that?”
Biden Was Key To Burisma’s U.S. Dealings
In a different Vienna, Austria coffee shop meeting around the same time then-Vice President Biden called for the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, Burisma CEO and founder Mykola Zlochevsky waved off the CHS’s concerns about completing a U.S. deal amid Shokin’s investigation into Burisma.
“Don’t worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad,” Zlochevsky said.
Burisma Was Not Innocent
No matter how many times the CHS tried to convince Zlochevsky that creating a U.S. entity or buying a “corporate shell” would be a cheaper way to put down business roots in the Western part of the world, the Burisma CEO refused. Instead, Zlochevsky that Hunter “advised Burisma it could raise much more capital if Burisma purchased a larger US-based business that already had a history In the US oil and gas sector.”
“CHS advised Zlochevsky it would be problematic to raise capital in the US given Shokin’s investigation into Burisma as nobody in the US would invest in a company that was the subject of a criminal investigation,” the form notes. “CHS suggested it would best if Burisma simply litigate the matter in Ukraine, and pay some attorney $50,000.”
Zlochevsky replied that Burisma would not survive a trial “because he could not show that Burisma was innocent.”
Hunter and Joe Accepted $10 Million Bribe To Fire Problematic Ukraine Prosecutor
In that same meeting, Zlochevsky claimed: “It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.”
Later in the conversation, he told CHS, “It’s too late to change his decision” to keep the Bidens involved in the company’s wheeling and dealings.
“CHS understood this to mean that Zlochevsky had already paid the Bidens, presumably to deal with Shokin,” the document states.
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky confirmed Shokin was fired and expressed confidence that “nobody would find out about his financial dealings with the Bidens.”
Hunter Biden Was Not Qualified To Be On Burisma’s Board
Hunter received approximately $50,000 a month to sit on Burisma’s board, but not even the company’s executives were fooled into believing he deserved to be there.
In his meeting with the CHS in Kyiv, Pojarskii admitted that Hunter “was not smart,” which is why the company required extra assistance and counsel when it came to possibly merging with a U.S.-based oil and gas company.
In the CHS’s meeting in Vienna, Zlochevsky claimed Hunter “was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter.” Zlochevsky said Burisma merely kept Hunter employed “so everything will be okay.”
When asked about his son, Biden often claims Hunter is a “very bright guy” and “the smartest guy I know.”
Joe Biden Told Burisma Not To Fire Hunter
When the CHS asked if either Hunter or Joe demanded Burisma keep Hunter on the board, Zlochevsky said, “They both did.”
The CHS encouraged Zlochevsky to move ahead with removing the Bidens “so that the matter will remain an issue in Ukraine, and not turn into some international matter,” but Zlochevsky declined.
“Don’t worry, this thing will go away anyway,” he reassured the CHS.
Bidens Coerced Burisma Execs To Pay Them Off
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky expressed unhappiness that former President Donald Trump won the election because “he didn’t want to pay the Bidens and he was ‘pushed to pay’ them.”
The Russian term Zlochevsky used to describe how he felt, the CHS clarified, is Russian criminal slang for “forced or coerced to pay.” Zlochevsky said he not only possessed communications about his payment to the Bidens but also recordings proving he was forced.
When the CHS said Zlochevsky “should make certain that he should retain those recordings,” the Burisma executive scrambled.
“Zlochevsky asked whether it would make any (legal) difference whether he voluntarily made such payments, or if he was forced to make them. Zlochevsky then asked CHS whether CHS could provide any assistance in Ukraine (with the Poroshenko regime) if something were to happen to Zlochevsky in the future. CHS replied that CHS didn’t want to get involved in any
such matters,” the document states.Zlochevsky Sent Payments To Bidens Through Indirect Accounts
Zlochevsky’s scrambling continued in a 2019 phone call with the CHS in which he expressed worry that investigators were catching onto the Burisma Biden bribery scandal.
In that conversation, Zlochevsky admitted he “did not send any funds directly to the ‘Big Guy’ (which CHS understood was a reference to Joe Biden).”Zlochevsky then declared it would take investigators at least a decade to uncover the illegal bribes to Joe.
This confession confirms what House Republicans suspected and subsequently proved about how the Bidens received their payments.
One Guy Present For Biden Bribery Meetings Works For Zelensky
At the end of the document is a statement noting that Oleksandr Ostapenko, who was present at several of the meetings between the CHS and Burisma executives and “introduced CHS into this matter,” now works for Ukraine head Volodymyr Zelensky’s regime. This is significant considering the Biden administration has funneled billions of dollars to the Zelensky regime, which is warring with Russia, without any semblance of accountability.
How do you not understand this? How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence? Give me a fucking break.
My understanding is this "latest" 1023 is anonymous. So we cannot call them a whistleblower by any stretch. And considering the history of baseless accusations, I know where my money is.
And for the record, the burden of proof is not on Biden, the DOJ or anyone to prove that the 1023 is false. I have been searching for the last 20 minutes for evidence that TJ is not trafficking on the 10C website, but I have not been able to do so yet. So.. does that mean he is?
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Sorry but I didn't see that op-ed. I have just been reading all their other articles that cover the failures of the current administration.Halifax2TheMax said:
And yet you linked your breathless expose from a publication that posted an op/Ed supportive of adults having sex with children and being elected to Congress. And you’re asking me if I’m okay?TJ25487 said:
You’re calling recap of an FBI official document a breathless article huh and yes the truth does hurt. That's why I come here to try and convince you of the truth that is hurting this country and world. I guess you like open borders with drugs pouring in which kill far more people than guns could ever kill. I guess you like lawless streets and cities where people now can not flee fast enough? I guess you like children being groomed without their parents consent? I guess I'm just not seeing the light???Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s very much on topic as a bullshit source of TJ’s breathless article that’s supposed to inform us. Truth hurt much?JB16057 said:
This is the Joe Biden thread. Can you follow the rules and stay on topic?Halifax2TheMax said:I love it when posters show us who they align with. It helps with understanding their views.Roy MooreEdit
In November 2017, The Federalist came under criticism from both conservatives and liberals for publishing an opinion piece by Tully Borland, Ouachita Baptist University philosopher, defending Roy Moore for allegedly dating teenagers while he was in his 30s, and arguing that such behavior was "not without some merit if one wants to raise a large family".[22][14] Noah Rothman of the conservative Commentary magazine stated that the op-ed was "rationalizing away child molestation".[22] Molly Roberts of The Washington Post wrote that the op-ed was "uniquely awful".[23]Ben Domenech defended The Federalist for publishing Borland's op-ed saying the magazine "remains avowedly committed to offering alternative views. For those that have a problem with this, the question is simple: what are you afraid of?"[24]
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Until October 2017, The Federalist had a "black crime" tag, which aggregated articles related to criminal activity by African Americans.[25][26] Dan McLaughlin of National Review, a former Federalist contributor, said that the phrasing of the "black crime" tag was "unfortunate", that when he had written for The Federalist he had "never even noticed that there were tags at the bottom of my essays," and that The Federalist "had deleted the tag as soon as it attracted any notice—over a couple of years the tag appeared on only five or six posts."[27]
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How do you suggest they verify this second hand accusation? So you understand, Zlovchevsky is a Moscow aligned oligarch, ejected from office during Euromaidan, fled Ukraine in 2012, and is now wanted for criminal charges by the Ukrainian govt and is hiding in Monaco after buying citizenship.TJ25487 said:
No, I'm saying they should indict him on facts that should be properly fleshed out by actual investigations and not by their typical cover ups like they have been doing.mrussel1 said:
So you think that Joe Biden should be indicted on the basis of an unverified third hand accusation regarding something said by a Ukrainian oligarch. And this oligarch "Zlovchevsky", was in gov't during Euromaidan and currently wanted by the current Ukrainian gov't. Do I have that correct?TJ25487 said:
Oh I'm sure the FBLie will verify this 1023 just like they verfied the Steele Dossier. Nothing to see here. Move along.mrussel1 said:
People make statements all the time. The FBI needs a way to record that information. It doesn't mean they don't get investigated, but they are unverified by their very definition.JB16057 said:
So what you're saying is that FD 1023s must be just like a Pearl Jam Message Board? It's all just a bunch of bullshit that no one will ever look into because no one should care?mrussel1 said:
A whistleblower is a federal employee who receives certain protections. The first person who made accusations was Gal Luft, who was recently indicted for spying and arms dealing. He's on the lam. The GOP calls him a "whistleblower". He is NOT that. He is an "informant", and an accused criminal. So let's get that straight.JB16057 said:
There are whistleblowers backing these accusations. I don't know if it is true or not but I'd like to know that the FD 1023 has proven to be false. Has it?mrussel1 said:
For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person. There is no fact checking or evidence required. I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader. And they will create a 1023.TJ25487 said:I can't let the week go by without helping to inform you guys about your buddy Joe Bribem. For some reason you guys don't seem to shop at certain news organizations that actually report his nefarious side. Hmmmmmm.
Mickey may doubt this as it may not get covered by the AP, Reuters, NYT or WP but I hope an official FBI 1023 form will be ok?Here’s Everything In The Damning FD-1023 Document That Implicates Biden In An International Bribery Scheme
damning FD-1023 document detailing then-Vice President Joe Biden’s Burisma bribery scheme was made public on Thursday by Sen. Chuck Grassley. The record shows Biden fired a Ukrainian prosecutor tasked with investigating the energy company his son was a board member of in exchange for a total of $10 million.
Delaware prosecutors hid the document from IRS investigators who say it would have aided their tax crime probe. The FBI, similarly, stonewalled publicizing the bombshell form, which earned FBI Director Christopher Wray the ire of Grassley and other Republicans focused on exposing Biden family corruption. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer even threatened to hold Wray in contempt unless he obeyed subpoenas and handed over the document.
Grassley now possesses the record, which was always unclassified, and chose to share it with the public so Americans are aware of the impeachable, international corruption plaguing our chief of state, despite his incessant denials that he knows anything about his son’s overseas business dealings.
“For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme,” Grassley said in a statement. “While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out.”
Here’s everything we know about the Bidens’ shady involvement with Ukrainian energy executives from the form FD-1023.
Burisma Hired Hunter To ‘Protect Us, Through His Dad’
In a 2015 or 2016 meeting with Burisma executives in Ukraine, the unnamed confidential human source said he heard from the company’s CFO Vadim Pojarskii that Hunter Biden was hired to the board of directors to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” The CHS claims Pojarskii did not elaborate on that allegation.
When asked on the 2020 campaign trail whether it was wrong for Hunter “to take that position, knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you,” Biden claimed, “That’s not true.”
“You’re saying things you do not know what you’re talking about,” Biden replied curtly. “No one said that. Who said that?”
Biden Was Key To Burisma’s U.S. Dealings
In a different Vienna, Austria coffee shop meeting around the same time then-Vice President Biden called for the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, Burisma CEO and founder Mykola Zlochevsky waved off the CHS’s concerns about completing a U.S. deal amid Shokin’s investigation into Burisma.
“Don’t worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad,” Zlochevsky said.
Burisma Was Not Innocent
No matter how many times the CHS tried to convince Zlochevsky that creating a U.S. entity or buying a “corporate shell” would be a cheaper way to put down business roots in the Western part of the world, the Burisma CEO refused. Instead, Zlochevsky that Hunter “advised Burisma it could raise much more capital if Burisma purchased a larger US-based business that already had a history In the US oil and gas sector.”
“CHS advised Zlochevsky it would be problematic to raise capital in the US given Shokin’s investigation into Burisma as nobody in the US would invest in a company that was the subject of a criminal investigation,” the form notes. “CHS suggested it would best if Burisma simply litigate the matter in Ukraine, and pay some attorney $50,000.”
Zlochevsky replied that Burisma would not survive a trial “because he could not show that Burisma was innocent.”
Hunter and Joe Accepted $10 Million Bribe To Fire Problematic Ukraine Prosecutor
In that same meeting, Zlochevsky claimed: “It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.”
Later in the conversation, he told CHS, “It’s too late to change his decision” to keep the Bidens involved in the company’s wheeling and dealings.
“CHS understood this to mean that Zlochevsky had already paid the Bidens, presumably to deal with Shokin,” the document states.
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky confirmed Shokin was fired and expressed confidence that “nobody would find out about his financial dealings with the Bidens.”
Hunter Biden Was Not Qualified To Be On Burisma’s Board
Hunter received approximately $50,000 a month to sit on Burisma’s board, but not even the company’s executives were fooled into believing he deserved to be there.
In his meeting with the CHS in Kyiv, Pojarskii admitted that Hunter “was not smart,” which is why the company required extra assistance and counsel when it came to possibly merging with a U.S.-based oil and gas company.
In the CHS’s meeting in Vienna, Zlochevsky claimed Hunter “was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter.” Zlochevsky said Burisma merely kept Hunter employed “so everything will be okay.”
When asked about his son, Biden often claims Hunter is a “very bright guy” and “the smartest guy I know.”
Joe Biden Told Burisma Not To Fire Hunter
When the CHS asked if either Hunter or Joe demanded Burisma keep Hunter on the board, Zlochevsky said, “They both did.”
The CHS encouraged Zlochevsky to move ahead with removing the Bidens “so that the matter will remain an issue in Ukraine, and not turn into some international matter,” but Zlochevsky declined.
“Don’t worry, this thing will go away anyway,” he reassured the CHS.
Bidens Coerced Burisma Execs To Pay Them Off
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky expressed unhappiness that former President Donald Trump won the election because “he didn’t want to pay the Bidens and he was ‘pushed to pay’ them.”
The Russian term Zlochevsky used to describe how he felt, the CHS clarified, is Russian criminal slang for “forced or coerced to pay.” Zlochevsky said he not only possessed communications about his payment to the Bidens but also recordings proving he was forced.
When the CHS said Zlochevsky “should make certain that he should retain those recordings,” the Burisma executive scrambled.
“Zlochevsky asked whether it would make any (legal) difference whether he voluntarily made such payments, or if he was forced to make them. Zlochevsky then asked CHS whether CHS could provide any assistance in Ukraine (with the Poroshenko regime) if something were to happen to Zlochevsky in the future. CHS replied that CHS didn’t want to get involved in any
such matters,” the document states.Zlochevsky Sent Payments To Bidens Through Indirect Accounts
Zlochevsky’s scrambling continued in a 2019 phone call with the CHS in which he expressed worry that investigators were catching onto the Burisma Biden bribery scandal.
In that conversation, Zlochevsky admitted he “did not send any funds directly to the ‘Big Guy’ (which CHS understood was a reference to Joe Biden).”Zlochevsky then declared it would take investigators at least a decade to uncover the illegal bribes to Joe.
This confession confirms what House Republicans suspected and subsequently proved about how the Bidens received their payments.
One Guy Present For Biden Bribery Meetings Works For Zelensky
At the end of the document is a statement noting that Oleksandr Ostapenko, who was present at several of the meetings between the CHS and Burisma executives and “introduced CHS into this matter,” now works for Ukraine head Volodymyr Zelensky’s regime. This is significant considering the Biden administration has funneled billions of dollars to the Zelensky regime, which is warring with Russia, without any semblance of accountability.
How do you not understand this? How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence? Give me a fucking break.
My understanding is this "latest" 1023 is anonymous. So we cannot call them a whistleblower by any stretch. And considering the history of baseless accusations, I know where my money is.
And for the record, the burden of proof is not on Biden, the DOJ or anyone to prove that the 1023 is false. I have been searching for the last 20 minutes for evidence that TJ is not trafficking on the 10C website, but I have not been able to do so yet. So.. does that mean he is?
Why do FD 1023s exist then?
You think we should all believe this guy, based on his alleged discussions with this other unamed person who talked to the FBI?
You really don't understand the skepticism?
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Does a publication that posts such an editorial, along with Covid mis/disinformation and false election fraud claims not encourage you to reconsider your source? Or are you going to double down on your “truth?” In an effort to “educate” the rest of us? I think I know the answer.TJ25487 said:
Sorry but I didn't see that op-ed. I have just been reading all their other articles that cover the failures of the current administration.Halifax2TheMax said:
And yet you linked your breathless expose from a publication that posted an op/Ed supportive of adults having sex with children and being elected to Congress. And you’re asking me if I’m okay?TJ25487 said:
You’re calling recap of an FBI official document a breathless article huh and yes the truth does hurt. That's why I come here to try and convince you of the truth that is hurting this country and world. I guess you like open borders with drugs pouring in which kill far more people than guns could ever kill. I guess you like lawless streets and cities where people now can not flee fast enough? I guess you like children being groomed without their parents consent? I guess I'm just not seeing the light???Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s very much on topic as a bullshit source of TJ’s breathless article that’s supposed to inform us. Truth hurt much?JB16057 said:
This is the Joe Biden thread. Can you follow the rules and stay on topic?Halifax2TheMax said:I love it when posters show us who they align with. It helps with understanding their views.Roy MooreEdit
In November 2017, The Federalist came under criticism from both conservatives and liberals for publishing an opinion piece by Tully Borland, Ouachita Baptist University philosopher, defending Roy Moore for allegedly dating teenagers while he was in his 30s, and arguing that such behavior was "not without some merit if one wants to raise a large family".[22][14] Noah Rothman of the conservative Commentary magazine stated that the op-ed was "rationalizing away child molestation".[22] Molly Roberts of The Washington Post wrote that the op-ed was "uniquely awful".[23]Ben Domenech defended The Federalist for publishing Borland's op-ed saying the magazine "remains avowedly committed to offering alternative views. For those that have a problem with this, the question is simple: what are you afraid of?"[24]
"Black crime" tagEdit
Until October 2017, The Federalist had a "black crime" tag, which aggregated articles related to criminal activity by African Americans.[25][26] Dan McLaughlin of National Review, a former Federalist contributor, said that the phrasing of the "black crime" tag was "unfortunate", that when he had written for The Federalist he had "never even noticed that there were tags at the bottom of my essays," and that The Federalist "had deleted the tag as soon as it attracted any notice—over a couple of years the tag appeared on only five or six posts."[27]
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Debates? Why would anyone in either party defend that? Their candidate is the incumbent president, tj. No incumbent has participated in a primary debate in 50 years.JB16057 said:
I don't like the Republican party. I can't defend them just like you can't defend why Democrats won't be having debates.The Juggler said:
You voted for him twice and said you will vote for him a third time. The fact that you cannot defend him is a sad reflection on the republican party.JB16057 said:
I don't feel the need to defend Trump. I don't like Trump. This is the Joe Biden thread but I know that's really hard for you because all you want to talk about is Trump.The Juggler said:
Upset that you are still unable to defend Trump? Understandable for sure, but one wonders why you continually walk straight into these situations again and again...JB16057 said:
BUT TRUMP!!!The Juggler said:
They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal.mrussel1 said:
For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person. There is no fact checking or evidence required. I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader. And they will create a 1023.TJ25487 said:
How do you not understand this? How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence? Give me a fucking break.
And for someone who claims to not like the republican party or trump, you sure seem lock and step with all their weirdo talking points every time you come here.
Really hope Trump isn't too cowardly to not attend the republican one next month.
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TJ25487 said:I can't let the week go by without helping to inform you guys about your buddy Joe Bribem. For some reason you guys don't seem to shop at certain news organizations that actually report his nefarious side. Hmmmmmm.
Mickey may doubt this as it may not get covered by the AP, Reuters, NYT or WP but I hope an official FBI 1023 form will be ok?Here’s Everything In The Damning FD-1023 Document That Implicates Biden In An International Bribery Scheme
damning FD-1023 document detailing then-Vice President Joe Biden’s Burisma bribery scheme was made public on Thursday by Sen. Chuck Grassley. The record shows Biden fired a Ukrainian prosecutor tasked with investigating the energy company his son was a board member of in exchange for a total of $10 million.
Delaware prosecutors hid the document from IRS investigators who say it would have aided their tax crime probe. The FBI, similarly, stonewalled publicizing the bombshell form, which earned FBI Director Christopher Wray the ire of Grassley and other Republicans focused on exposing Biden family corruption. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer even threatened to hold Wray in contempt unless he obeyed subpoenas and handed over the document.
Grassley now possesses the record, which was always unclassified, and chose to share it with the public so Americans are aware of the impeachable, international corruption plaguing our chief of state, despite his incessant denials that he knows anything about his son’s overseas business dealings.
“For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme,” Grassley said in a statement. “While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out.”
Here’s everything we know about the Bidens’ shady involvement with Ukrainian energy executives from the form FD-1023.
Burisma Hired Hunter To ‘Protect Us, Through His Dad’
In a 2015 or 2016 meeting with Burisma executives in Ukraine, the unnamed confidential human source said he heard from the company’s CFO Vadim Pojarskii that Hunter Biden was hired to the board of directors to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” The CHS claims Pojarskii did not elaborate on that allegation.
When asked on the 2020 campaign trail whether it was wrong for Hunter “to take that position, knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you,” Biden claimed, “That’s not true.”
“You’re saying things you do not know what you’re talking about,” Biden replied curtly. “No one said that. Who said that?”
Biden Was Key To Burisma’s U.S. Dealings
In a different Vienna, Austria coffee shop meeting around the same time then-Vice President Biden called for the firing of Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, Burisma CEO and founder Mykola Zlochevsky waved off the CHS’s concerns about completing a U.S. deal amid Shokin’s investigation into Burisma.
“Don’t worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad,” Zlochevsky said.
Burisma Was Not Innocent
No matter how many times the CHS tried to convince Zlochevsky that creating a U.S. entity or buying a “corporate shell” would be a cheaper way to put down business roots in the Western part of the world, the Burisma CEO refused. Instead, Zlochevsky that Hunter “advised Burisma it could raise much more capital if Burisma purchased a larger US-based business that already had a history In the US oil and gas sector.”
“CHS advised Zlochevsky it would be problematic to raise capital in the US given Shokin’s investigation into Burisma as nobody in the US would invest in a company that was the subject of a criminal investigation,” the form notes. “CHS suggested it would best if Burisma simply litigate the matter in Ukraine, and pay some attorney $50,000.”
Zlochevsky replied that Burisma would not survive a trial “because he could not show that Burisma was innocent.”
Hunter and Joe Accepted $10 Million Bribe To Fire Problematic Ukraine Prosecutor
In that same meeting, Zlochevsky claimed: “It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.”
Later in the conversation, he told CHS, “It’s too late to change his decision” to keep the Bidens involved in the company’s wheeling and dealings.
“CHS understood this to mean that Zlochevsky had already paid the Bidens, presumably to deal with Shokin,” the document states.
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky confirmed Shokin was fired and expressed confidence that “nobody would find out about his financial dealings with the Bidens.”
Hunter Biden Was Not Qualified To Be On Burisma’s Board
Hunter received approximately $50,000 a month to sit on Burisma’s board, but not even the company’s executives were fooled into believing he deserved to be there.
In his meeting with the CHS in Kyiv, Pojarskii admitted that Hunter “was not smart,” which is why the company required extra assistance and counsel when it came to possibly merging with a U.S.-based oil and gas company.
In the CHS’s meeting in Vienna, Zlochevsky claimed Hunter “was stupid, and his (Zlochevsky’s) dog was smarter.” Zlochevsky said Burisma merely kept Hunter employed “so everything will be okay.”
When asked about his son, Biden often claims Hunter is a “very bright guy” and “the smartest guy I know.”
Joe Biden Told Burisma Not To Fire Hunter
When the CHS asked if either Hunter or Joe demanded Burisma keep Hunter on the board, Zlochevsky said, “They both did.”
The CHS encouraged Zlochevsky to move ahead with removing the Bidens “so that the matter will remain an issue in Ukraine, and not turn into some international matter,” but Zlochevsky declined.
“Don’t worry, this thing will go away anyway,” he reassured the CHS.
Bidens Coerced Burisma Execs To Pay Them Off
In a 2016 or 2017 phone call with the CHS, Zlochevsky expressed unhappiness that former President Donald Trump won the election because “he didn’t want to pay the Bidens and he was ‘pushed to pay’ them.”
The Russian term Zlochevsky used to describe how he felt, the CHS clarified, is Russian criminal slang for “forced or coerced to pay.” Zlochevsky said he not only possessed communications about his payment to the Bidens but also recordings proving he was forced.
When the CHS said Zlochevsky “should make certain that he should retain those recordings,” the Burisma executive scrambled.
“Zlochevsky asked whether it would make any (legal) difference whether he voluntarily made such payments, or if he was forced to make them. Zlochevsky then asked CHS whether CHS could provide any assistance in Ukraine (with the Poroshenko regime) if something were to happen to Zlochevsky in the future. CHS replied that CHS didn’t want to get involved in any
such matters,” the document states.Zlochevsky Sent Payments To Bidens Through Indirect Accounts
Zlochevsky’s scrambling continued in a 2019 phone call with the CHS in which he expressed worry that investigators were catching onto the Burisma Biden bribery scandal.
In that conversation, Zlochevsky admitted he “did not send any funds directly to the ‘Big Guy’ (which CHS understood was a reference to Joe Biden).”Zlochevsky then declared it would take investigators at least a decade to uncover the illegal bribes to Joe.
This confession confirms what House Republicans suspected and subsequently proved about how the Bidens received their payments.
One Guy Present For Biden Bribery Meetings Works For Zelensky
At the end of the document is a statement noting that Oleksandr Ostapenko, who was present at several of the meetings between the CHS and Burisma executives and “introduced CHS into this matter,” now works for Ukraine head Volodymyr Zelensky’s regime. This is significant considering the Biden administration has funneled billions of dollars to the Zelensky regime, which is warring with Russia, without any semblance of accountability.
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And you should be quite adept at listing the failures of the Brandon administration then, eh? Please list the top ten failures by order of importance to you. Should be a breeze.TJ25487 said:
Sorry but I didn't see that op-ed. I have just been reading all their other articles that cover the failures of the current administration.Halifax2TheMax said:
And yet you linked your breathless expose from a publication that posted an op/Ed supportive of adults having sex with children and being elected to Congress. And you’re asking me if I’m okay?TJ25487 said:
You’re calling recap of an FBI official document a breathless article huh and yes the truth does hurt. That's why I come here to try and convince you of the truth that is hurting this country and world. I guess you like open borders with drugs pouring in which kill far more people than guns could ever kill. I guess you like lawless streets and cities where people now can not flee fast enough? I guess you like children being groomed without their parents consent? I guess I'm just not seeing the light???Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s very much on topic as a bullshit source of TJ’s breathless article that’s supposed to inform us. Truth hurt much?JB16057 said:
This is the Joe Biden thread. Can you follow the rules and stay on topic?Halifax2TheMax said:I love it when posters show us who they align with. It helps with understanding their views.Roy MooreEdit
In November 2017, The Federalist came under criticism from both conservatives and liberals for publishing an opinion piece by Tully Borland, Ouachita Baptist University philosopher, defending Roy Moore for allegedly dating teenagers while he was in his 30s, and arguing that such behavior was "not without some merit if one wants to raise a large family".[22][14] Noah Rothman of the conservative Commentary magazine stated that the op-ed was "rationalizing away child molestation".[22] Molly Roberts of The Washington Post wrote that the op-ed was "uniquely awful".[23]Ben Domenech defended The Federalist for publishing Borland's op-ed saying the magazine "remains avowedly committed to offering alternative views. For those that have a problem with this, the question is simple: what are you afraid of?"[24]
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Until October 2017, The Federalist had a "black crime" tag, which aggregated articles related to criminal activity by African Americans.[25][26] Dan McLaughlin of National Review, a former Federalist contributor, said that the phrasing of the "black crime" tag was "unfortunate", that when he had written for The Federalist he had "never even noticed that there were tags at the bottom of my essays," and that The Federalist "had deleted the tag as soon as it attracted any notice—over a couple of years the tag appeared on only five or six posts."[27]
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