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  • The Juggler
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    JB16057 said:
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    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Trump is responsible for the deaths of five cops, and conservatives are still supporting him over everyone else 

    Trump is the only topic conservatives are allowed to discuss bc he is responsible for police deaths yet the right STILL SUPPORTS HIM. There is nothing else you get to say outside of trump until he is defeated

    If you and your brethren think that's funny, its time to tear this country in two, bc supporting a cop killer is non negotiable.  
    Biden is responsible for killing 13 U.S Troops. Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!
    Biden intentionally inflamed a mob and sent them into a direct confrontation with service members?  When did this happen?  I missed that news.
    Biden's plan to pull the US out of Afghanistan was highly flawed and 13 U.S. Troops lost their lives. The Taliban took control of the country before we were even able to fully withdraw.

    Shhhh....nobody tell who's plan that actually was. His mind will literally explode.
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  • JB16057
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    static111 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Upset that you are still unable to defend Trump? Understandable for sure, but one wonders why you continually walk straight into these situations again and again...
    I don't feel the need to defend Trump. I don't like Trump. This is the Joe Biden thread but I know that's really hard for you because all you want to talk about is Trump. 
    You voted for him twice and said you will vote for him a third time. The fact that you cannot defend him is a sad reflection on the republican party.
    I don't like the Republican party. I can't defend them just like you can't defend why Democrats won't be having debates. 
    Debates? Why would anyone in either party defend that? Their candidate is the incumbent president, tj. No incumbent has participated in a primary debate in 50 years. 

    And for someone who claims to not like the republican party or trump, you sure seem lock and step with all their weirdo talking points every time you come here. 

    Really hope Trump isn't too cowardly to not attend the republican one next month. 

    The Democratic party is fooling you hook, line and sinker. Do you really believe that Joe Biden is the best Democrat candidate for President?Look at how much Biden has slowed down in just the last 3 years. There's still another 5 to go if he's re-elected. 

    If something were to happen to Joe, we're stuck with Kamala. Do you really believe this is what is best for our country? The Democrat party are taking you for a ride.
    I think the Dem party is currently crap. Joe is old as hell and I would not let Kamala run my kid's school library.  Unfortunately there is no reasonable republican alternative.  If the Dems think the safe bet is Biden then I guess that is my only choice.  Just like I don't like that cars cost a zillion dollars but will have to get one soon because there is currently not a workable alternative.  

    The sitting presidential party hasn't had debates in years.  I'm fine with that. It seemed to work until now.  If there was a great upcoming dem that could get some serious support and pull some republicans and they got stonewalled by the DNC that would be a different argument.  However, as of now that candidate doesn't exist.  So I will do what I did last time and vote for the front runner of the party with a platform that will best help me and other Americans, based on results not boasts and hyperbole.
    And I'm in the same boat with the Republican party yet I get demonized for it. Trump is not my pick for President but if that's all I have VS a Democrat that I can't get behind, I'm stuck but I won't be voting for Joe Biden. 

    The Democrat party are keeping Joe on the ballot because if he announced he wasn't going to run, the next most logical choice would be Kamala and she is an absolute disaster.
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Upset that you are still unable to defend Trump? Understandable for sure, but one wonders why you continually walk straight into these situations again and again...
    I don't feel the need to defend Trump. I don't like Trump. This is the Joe Biden thread but I know that's really hard for you because all you want to talk about is Trump. 
    You voted for him twice and said you will vote for him a third time. The fact that you cannot defend him is a sad reflection on the republican party.
    I don't like the Republican party. I can't defend them just like you can't defend why Democrats won't be having debates. 
    Debates? Why would anyone in either party defend that? Their candidate is the incumbent president, tj. No incumbent has participated in a primary debate in 50 years. 

    And for someone who claims to not like the republican party or trump, you sure seem lock and step with all their weirdo talking points every time you come here. 

    Really hope Trump isn't too cowardly to not attend the republican one next month. 

    The Democratic party is fooling you hook, line and sinker. Do you really believe that Joe Biden is the best Democrat candidate for President?Look at how much Biden has slowed down in just the last 3 years. There's still another 5 to go if he's re-elected. 

    If something were to happen to Joe, we're stuck with Kamala. Do you really believe this is what is best for our country? The Democrat party are taking you for a ride.
    How is the Democratic Party fooling us? Be specific? Is unemployment really 25%? Inflation is rampant and running at 17% and moving upward? Is manufacturing non-existent and the investment in same by corporations is really zero? By what measure are we being "fooled?"
    You can give me your statistics all day long. Why don't they add up? I hear inflation is down yet prices are still through the roof. 

    Trump's economy was doing great before COVID but you won't admit that. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JB16057 said:
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    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Upset that you are still unable to defend Trump? Understandable for sure, but one wonders why you continually walk straight into these situations again and again...
    I don't feel the need to defend Trump. I don't like Trump. This is the Joe Biden thread but I know that's really hard for you because all you want to talk about is Trump. 
    You voted for him twice and said you will vote for him a third time. The fact that you cannot defend him is a sad reflection on the republican party.
    I don't like the Republican party. I can't defend them just like you can't defend why Democrats won't be having debates. 
    Debates? Why would anyone in either party defend that? Their candidate is the incumbent president, tj. No incumbent has participated in a primary debate in 50 years. 

    And for someone who claims to not like the republican party or trump, you sure seem lock and step with all their weirdo talking points every time you come here. 

    Really hope Trump isn't too cowardly to not attend the republican one next month. 

    The Democratic party is fooling you hook, line and sinker. Do you really believe that Joe Biden is the best Democrat candidate for President?Look at how much Biden has slowed down in just the last 3 years. There's still another 5 to go if he's re-elected. 

    If something were to happen to Joe, we're stuck with Kamala. Do you really believe this is what is best for our country? The Democrat party are taking you for a ride.
    How is the Democratic Party fooling us? Be specific? Is unemployment really 25%? Inflation is rampant and running at 17% and moving upward? Is manufacturing non-existent and the investment in same by corporations is really zero? By what measure are we being "fooled?"
    You can give me your statistics all day long. Why don't they add up? I hear inflation is down yet prices are still through the roof. 

    Trump's economy was doing great before COVID but you won't admit that. 
    To answer your question, corporate greed. How's your 401K or stock portfolio doing?

    POOTWH inherited an economy on the upswing and promptly tanked it. POOTWH didn't take office until 2019 and it generally takes at least a year for an administration's policies to have an effect upon and ripple through the economy. So POOTWH had about 3-5 months of that amazing economy before his and his administration's incompetence addressing covid tanked it.

    I'm really interested in what your top 5 priorities are and what your candidate(s)/party's solutions are. Why won't you articulate them? And where, being specific, Sleepy Deranged Incompetent Criminal Mastermind Brandon has failed. It shouldn't be too difficult for you.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Just one example. Corporate greed.

    Industrywide profits for 2022, predictions for 2023

    After Cosco belatedly released its results, independent analyst John McCown published his overview of container shipping profits for last year and his predictions for this year.

    According to McCown’s data, container shipping companies earned a jaw-dropping aggregate net income of $215.3 billion in 2022. Profits in Q4 2022 totaled $34.7 billion, down 34% year on year (y/y) and 41% from the third quarter.

    chart showing container line profits by quarter
    (Chart: John McCown)

    McCown predicts shipping lines will earn $43.2 billion in 2023, down 80% y/y. He assumes industry net income will drop to $14.9 billion in Q1 2023, a sequential fall of 57% versus the fourth quarter. He estimates net income will then fall to $10.8 billion in Q2 2023 and to $8.7 billion in both the third and fourth quarters.


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  • static111
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    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Trump is responsible for the deaths of five cops, and conservatives are still supporting him over everyone else 

    Trump is the only topic conservatives are allowed to discuss bc he is responsible for police deaths yet the right STILL SUPPORTS HIM. There is nothing else you get to say outside of trump until he is defeated

    If you and your brethren think that's funny, its time to tear this country in two, bc supporting a cop killer is non negotiable.  
    Biden is responsible for killing 13 U.S Troops. Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!
    Biden intentionally inflamed a mob and sent them into a direct confrontation with service members?  When did this happen?  I missed that news.
    Biden's plan to pull the US out of Afghanistan was highly flawed and 13 U.S. Troops lost their lives. The Taliban took control of the country before we were even able to fully withdraw.

    Biden promised to evacuate every US citizen from Afghanistan that wanted to leave. Why does no one hold him to his promise? How many of these US citizens have died because Biden abandoned them there?

    How many Afghans died due to Biden pulling us out of Afghanistan? 

    Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!!
    13 losses to get out of one of the worst military blunders of all time is not a bad butcher's bill.  It may have been flawed, but now we are finally out of that mess.  And since you were recently so concerned about wasting billions of tax dollars, surely not wasting anymore billions in Afghanistan is a good thing.

    I would like to compare military losses under Biden and other presidents especially when undertaking major operations and see how he compares.  For a war state like the US I am thinking 13 soldiers is an acceptable military loss from a strategic standpoint.  It would be great if no soldiers ever died, but so far I don't believe a single CIC has been able to pull that off.

    Unlike some I don't care about trump I think he is a joke. But let me guess BENGHAZI! 13 troops! the LAPToP FroM Hell!!!
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Trump is responsible for the deaths of five cops, and conservatives are still supporting him over everyone else 

    Trump is the only topic conservatives are allowed to discuss bc he is responsible for police deaths yet the right STILL SUPPORTS HIM. There is nothing else you get to say outside of trump until he is defeated

    If you and your brethren think that's funny, its time to tear this country in two, bc supporting a cop killer is non negotiable.  
    Biden is responsible for killing 13 U.S Troops. Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!
    Biden intentionally inflamed a mob and sent them into a direct confrontation with service members?  When did this happen?  I missed that news.
    Biden's plan to pull the US out of Afghanistan was highly flawed and 13 U.S. Troops lost their lives. The Taliban took control of the country before we were even able to fully withdraw.

    Biden promised to evacuate every US citizen from Afghanistan that wanted to leave. Why does no one hold him to his promise? How many of these US citizens have died because Biden abandoned them there?

    How many Afghans died due to Biden pulling us out of Afghanistan? 

    Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!!
    for the last time. the afghan withdrawl plan was trump's plan on trump's timeline. biden just did not delay it. read a news article.
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  • mrussel1
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    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Upset that you are still unable to defend Trump? Understandable for sure, but one wonders why you continually walk straight into these situations again and again...
    I don't feel the need to defend Trump. I don't like Trump. This is the Joe Biden thread but I know that's really hard for you because all you want to talk about is Trump. 
    You voted for him twice and said you will vote for him a third time. The fact that you cannot defend him is a sad reflection on the republican party.
    I don't like the Republican party. I can't defend them just like you can't defend why Democrats won't be having debates. 
    Debates? Why would anyone in either party defend that? Their candidate is the incumbent president, tj. No incumbent has participated in a primary debate in 50 years. 

    And for someone who claims to not like the republican party or trump, you sure seem lock and step with all their weirdo talking points every time you come here. 

    Really hope Trump isn't too cowardly to not attend the republican one next month. 

    The Democratic party is fooling you hook, line and sinker. Do you really believe that Joe Biden is the best Democrat candidate for President?Look at how much Biden has slowed down in just the last 3 years. There's still another 5 to go if he's re-elected. 

    If something were to happen to Joe, we're stuck with Kamala. Do you really believe this is what is best for our country? The Democrat party are taking you for a ride.
    I think the Dem party is currently crap. Joe is old as hell and I would not let Kamala run my kid's school library.  Unfortunately there is no reasonable republican alternative.  If the Dems think the safe bet is Biden then I guess that is my only choice.  Just like I don't like that cars cost a zillion dollars but will have to get one soon because there is currently not a workable alternative.  

    The sitting presidential party hasn't had debates in years.  I'm fine with that. It seemed to work until now.  If there was a great upcoming dem that could get some serious support and pull some republicans and they got stonewalled by the DNC that would be a different argument.  However, as of now that candidate doesn't exist.  So I will do what I did last time and vote for the front runner of the party with a platform that will best help me and other Americans, based on results not boasts and hyperbole.
    And I'm in the same boat with the Republican party yet I get demonized for it. Trump is not my pick for President but if that's all I have VS a Democrat that I can't get behind, I'm stuck but I won't be voting for Joe Biden. 

    The Democrat party are keeping Joe on the ballot because if he announced he wasn't going to run, the next most logical choice would be Kamala and she is an absolute disaster.
    Wrong,  it would much more likely be Newsome.  Gretchen Whitmer would get consideration too. I would bet 5-1 that Harris is never the top of the ticket UNLESS Joe died in office. She would not win an open primary. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    also just wanted to say lamo at the federalist.
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  • static111
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    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Upset that you are still unable to defend Trump? Understandable for sure, but one wonders why you continually walk straight into these situations again and again...
    I don't feel the need to defend Trump. I don't like Trump. This is the Joe Biden thread but I know that's really hard for you because all you want to talk about is Trump. 
    You voted for him twice and said you will vote for him a third time. The fact that you cannot defend him is a sad reflection on the republican party.
    I don't like the Republican party. I can't defend them just like you can't defend why Democrats won't be having debates. 
    Debates? Why would anyone in either party defend that? Their candidate is the incumbent president, tj. No incumbent has participated in a primary debate in 50 years. 

    And for someone who claims to not like the republican party or trump, you sure seem lock and step with all their weirdo talking points every time you come here. 

    Really hope Trump isn't too cowardly to not attend the republican one next month. 

    The Democratic party is fooling you hook, line and sinker. Do you really believe that Joe Biden is the best Democrat candidate for President?Look at how much Biden has slowed down in just the last 3 years. There's still another 5 to go if he's re-elected. 

    If something were to happen to Joe, we're stuck with Kamala. Do you really believe this is what is best for our country? The Democrat party are taking you for a ride.
    I think the Dem party is currently crap. Joe is old as hell and I would not let Kamala run my kid's school library.  Unfortunately there is no reasonable republican alternative.  If the Dems think the safe bet is Biden then I guess that is my only choice.  Just like I don't like that cars cost a zillion dollars but will have to get one soon because there is currently not a workable alternative.  

    The sitting presidential party hasn't had debates in years.  I'm fine with that. It seemed to work until now.  If there was a great upcoming dem that could get some serious support and pull some republicans and they got stonewalled by the DNC that would be a different argument.  However, as of now that candidate doesn't exist.  So I will do what I did last time and vote for the front runner of the party with a platform that will best help me and other Americans, based on results not boasts and hyperbole.
    And I'm in the same boat with the Republican party yet I get demonized for it. Trump is not my pick for President but if that's all I have VS a Democrat that I can't get behind, I'm stuck but I won't be voting for Joe Biden. 

    The Democrat party are keeping Joe on the ballot because if he announced he wasn't going to run, the next most logical choice would be Kamala and she is an absolute disaster.
    I would prefer not to vote and abstain this round, but unlike you I don't see Joe Biden as a terrible person that is destroying America.  I did live from 2016-2020 and saw so many things I never thought I would see and such ugliness wash over the country that I just couldn't vote for the other guy if I was paid.  Of course I didn't like him before he ever went down the golden escalator, I knew he was a blowhard conman from the start.  If I thought Let's Go Brandon was even close to as bad and power hungry the other guy I wouldn't vote for him.  But for my money in the current lesser of two evils system FJB vs the other guy, my vote goes to FJB every time. If my choice was literally a vile piece of shit D or a reasonable R I would vote R, I wouldn't just vote D because it is my party.  Joe has flaws, they all do, but he really hasn't been that bad all things considered.
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    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Trump is responsible for the deaths of five cops, and conservatives are still supporting him over everyone else 

    Trump is the only topic conservatives are allowed to discuss bc he is responsible for police deaths yet the right STILL SUPPORTS HIM. There is nothing else you get to say outside of trump until he is defeated

    If you and your brethren think that's funny, its time to tear this country in two, bc supporting a cop killer is non negotiable.  
    Biden is responsible for killing 13 U.S Troops. Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!
    Biden intentionally inflamed a mob and sent them into a direct confrontation with service members?  When did this happen?  I missed that news.
    Biden's plan to pull the US out of Afghanistan was highly flawed and 13 U.S. Troops lost their lives. The Taliban took control of the country before we were even able to fully withdraw.

    Biden promised to evacuate every US citizen from Afghanistan that wanted to leave. Why does no one hold him to his promise? How many of these US citizens have died because Biden abandoned them there?

    How many Afghans died due to Biden pulling us out of Afghanistan? 

    Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!!
    for the last time. the afghan withdrawl plan was trump's plan on trump's timeline. biden just did not delay it. read a news article.
    For the last time, when Biden took office, he dismantled a ton of Trump's policies. Biden didn't delay Afghanistan and he knew that it was going to be a shit show and he followed through with it anyways. Trump did not force Biden to do what he did.

    This is just another, BUT TRUMP!! excuse. It's getting past the point of pathetic. 

    Biden had enough information to make changes to the withdrawal in Afghanistan but none of you will admit that is true and that Biden could've done a better job. 

    Biden's withdrawal killed 13 US Troops. Trump didn't sign that order, Biden did. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,369
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Trump is responsible for the deaths of five cops, and conservatives are still supporting him over everyone else 

    Trump is the only topic conservatives are allowed to discuss bc he is responsible for police deaths yet the right STILL SUPPORTS HIM. There is nothing else you get to say outside of trump until he is defeated

    If you and your brethren think that's funny, its time to tear this country in two, bc supporting a cop killer is non negotiable.  
    Biden is responsible for killing 13 U.S Troops. Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!
    Biden intentionally inflamed a mob and sent them into a direct confrontation with service members?  When did this happen?  I missed that news.
    Biden's plan to pull the US out of Afghanistan was highly flawed and 13 U.S. Troops lost their lives. The Taliban took control of the country before we were even able to fully withdraw.

    Biden promised to evacuate every US citizen from Afghanistan that wanted to leave. Why does no one hold him to his promise? How many of these US citizens have died because Biden abandoned them there?

    How many Afghans died due to Biden pulling us out of Afghanistan? 

    Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!!
    for the last time. the afghan withdrawl plan was trump's plan on trump's timeline. biden just did not delay it. read a news article.
    For the last time, when Biden took office, he dismantled a ton of Trump's policies. Biden didn't delay Afghanistan and he knew that it was going to be a shit show and he followed through with it anyways. Trump did not force Biden to do what he did.

    This is just another, BUT TRUMP!! excuse. It's getting past the point of pathetic. 

    Biden had enough information to make changes to the withdrawal in Afghanistan but none of you will admit that is true and that Biden could've done a better job. 

    Biden's withdrawal killed 13 US Troops. Trump didn't sign that order, Biden did. 

    generally speaking a later admin honors the commitments  the previous admin entered into. seems to be the way our transitional government operates. were it otherwise, US word wouldn't be trusted going forward.

    a case in point, pulling out of the iran deal. hasn’t benefited the world in regards to irans stockpile and purity levels like it was before we pulled out of it.

    biden chose to honor that US agreement with the taliban. given what did happen, I  dont believe Afghanis were ever going to fight for their country...... not in the way the taliban fought for the country they wanted......
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/u-s-review-of-chaotic-afghanistan-withdrawal-blames-trump

    biden listened to his generals and did not change the withdrawl plan. trump made the agreement. biden adhered to it. jesus.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    jb do you want the afghan war to still be going on or not?
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  • lindamarie73
    lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Trump is responsible for the deaths of five cops, and conservatives are still supporting him over everyone else 

    Trump is the only topic conservatives are allowed to discuss bc he is responsible for police deaths yet the right STILL SUPPORTS HIM. There is nothing else you get to say outside of trump until he is defeated

    If you and your brethren think that's funny, its time to tear this country in two, bc supporting a cop killer is non negotiable.  
    Biden is responsible for killing 13 U.S Troops. Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!
    Biden intentionally inflamed a mob and sent them into a direct confrontation with service members?  When did this happen?  I missed that news.
    Biden's plan to pull the US out of Afghanistan was highly flawed and 13 U.S. Troops lost their lives. The Taliban took control of the country before we were even able to fully withdraw.

    Biden promised to evacuate every US citizen from Afghanistan that wanted to leave. Why does no one hold him to his promise? How many of these US citizens have died because Biden abandoned them there?

    How many Afghans died due to Biden pulling us out of Afghanistan? 

    Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!!
    for the last time. the afghan withdrawl plan was trump's plan on trump's timeline. biden just did not delay it. read a news article.
    For the last time, when Biden took office, he dismantled a ton of Trump's policies. Biden didn't delay Afghanistan and he knew that it was going to be a shit show and he followed through with it anyways. Trump did not force Biden to do what he did.

    This is just another, BUT TRUMP!! excuse. It's getting past the point of pathetic. 

    Biden had enough information to make changes to the withdrawal in Afghanistan but none of you will admit that is true and that Biden could've done a better job. 

    Biden's withdrawal killed 13 US Troops. Trump didn't sign that order, Biden did. 
    I gotta hand it to you JB, you still try to engage with the Rotten Brain…Let me give you a little advice…Be a TROLL as they like to call it…It’s a lot more fun and trust me it makes their head spin. As you know They counter a non conformist by teaming up and beating you up every which way they can for acceptance.  It’s pretty obvious the real world friend pool is non existent to some with the amount of time some spend on here.  I always think It must really suck to be that lonely to find purpose on a rock n roll forum….There is nothing you will ever say that will change a rotten brain…they simply hate you, Funny how that works w/ the inclusive Left…
    just my 2 cents, I enjoy your efforts 
    Mahalo 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,072
    edited July 2023
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Trump is responsible for the deaths of five cops, and conservatives are still supporting him over everyone else 

    Trump is the only topic conservatives are allowed to discuss bc he is responsible for police deaths yet the right STILL SUPPORTS HIM. There is nothing else you get to say outside of trump until he is defeated

    If you and your brethren think that's funny, its time to tear this country in two, bc supporting a cop killer is non negotiable.  
    Biden is responsible for killing 13 U.S Troops. Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!
    Biden intentionally inflamed a mob and sent them into a direct confrontation with service members?  When did this happen?  I missed that news.
    Biden's plan to pull the US out of Afghanistan was highly flawed and 13 U.S. Troops lost their lives. The Taliban took control of the country before we were even able to fully withdraw.

    Biden promised to evacuate every US citizen from Afghanistan that wanted to leave. Why does no one hold him to his promise? How many of these US citizens have died because Biden abandoned them there?

    How many Afghans died due to Biden pulling us out of Afghanistan? 

    Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!!
    for the last time. the afghan withdrawl plan was trump's plan on trump's timeline. biden just did not delay it. read a news article.
    For the last time, when Biden took office, he dismantled a ton of Trump's policies. Biden didn't delay Afghanistan and he knew that it was going to be a shit show and he followed through with it anyways. Trump did not force Biden to do what he did.

    This is just another, BUT TRUMP!! excuse. It's getting past the point of pathetic. 

    Biden had enough information to make changes to the withdrawal in Afghanistan but none of you will admit that is true and that Biden could've done a better job. 

    Biden's withdrawal killed 13 US Troops. Trump didn't sign that order, Biden did. 
    I think Biden did a great job.  Could it have been better? Maybe, but as I stated 13 soldiers is a small butcher's bill when it comes to all of the previous military blunders in Afghanistan.  I wonder how many more would be dead if we had just stayed the course for several more years and waited until we  had a JB16057 approved plan with an acceptable number of withdrawal casualties.  All dead troops suck, but that's the war machine, it is also part of the risk of taking that job, 13 Is also small potatoes in the larger Afghanistan picture especially considering that no more American soldiers will needlessly die over there and we won't be spending anymore billions.  I can look at it like 13 soldiers gave their life so no more Americans would needlessly die over there and no more money would be wasted.  Were you okay with the thousands of dead before, or only the 13 that happened while FJB was CIC?

    Please tell me how this is a but Trump? or is that your only counter argument.  Nothing was going to be perfect.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Trump is responsible for the deaths of five cops, and conservatives are still supporting him over everyone else 

    Trump is the only topic conservatives are allowed to discuss bc he is responsible for police deaths yet the right STILL SUPPORTS HIM. There is nothing else you get to say outside of trump until he is defeated

    If you and your brethren think that's funny, its time to tear this country in two, bc supporting a cop killer is non negotiable.  
    Biden is responsible for killing 13 U.S Troops. Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!
    Biden intentionally inflamed a mob and sent them into a direct confrontation with service members?  When did this happen?  I missed that news.
    Biden's plan to pull the US out of Afghanistan was highly flawed and 13 U.S. Troops lost their lives. The Taliban took control of the country before we were even able to fully withdraw.

    Biden promised to evacuate every US citizen from Afghanistan that wanted to leave. Why does no one hold him to his promise? How many of these US citizens have died because Biden abandoned them there?

    How many Afghans died due to Biden pulling us out of Afghanistan? 

    Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!!
    for the last time. the afghan withdrawl plan was trump's plan on trump's timeline. biden just did not delay it. read a news article.
    For the last time, when Biden took office, he dismantled a ton of Trump's policies. Biden didn't delay Afghanistan and he knew that it was going to be a shit show and he followed through with it anyways. Trump did not force Biden to do what he did.

    This is just another, BUT TRUMP!! excuse. It's getting past the point of pathetic. 

    Biden had enough information to make changes to the withdrawal in Afghanistan but none of you will admit that is true and that Biden could've done a better job. 

    Biden's withdrawal killed 13 US Troops. Trump didn't sign that order, Biden did. 
    I gotta hand it to you JB, you still try to engage with the Rotten Brain…Let me give you a little advice…Be a TROLL as they like to call it…It’s a lot more fun and trust me it makes their head spin. As you know They counter a non conformist by teaming up and beating you up every which way they can for acceptance.  It’s pretty obvious the real world friend pool is non existent to some with the amount of time some spend on here.  I always think It must really suck to be that lonely to find purpose on a rock n roll forum….There is nothing you will ever say that will change a rotten brain…they simply hate you, Funny how that works w/ the inclusive Left…
    just my 2 cents, I enjoy your efforts 
    Mahalo 

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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    edited July 2023
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Trump is responsible for the deaths of five cops, and conservatives are still supporting him over everyone else 

    Trump is the only topic conservatives are allowed to discuss bc he is responsible for police deaths yet the right STILL SUPPORTS HIM. There is nothing else you get to say outside of trump until he is defeated

    If you and your brethren think that's funny, its time to tear this country in two, bc supporting a cop killer is non negotiable.  
    Biden is responsible for killing 13 U.S Troops. Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!
    Biden intentionally inflamed a mob and sent them into a direct confrontation with service members?  When did this happen?  I missed that news.
    Biden's plan to pull the US out of Afghanistan was highly flawed and 13 U.S. Troops lost their lives. The Taliban took control of the country before we were even able to fully withdraw.

    Biden promised to evacuate every US citizen from Afghanistan that wanted to leave. Why does no one hold him to his promise? How many of these US citizens have died because Biden abandoned them there?

    How many Afghans died due to Biden pulling us out of Afghanistan? 

    Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!!
    for the last time. the afghan withdrawl plan was trump's plan on trump's timeline. biden just did not delay it. read a news article.
    For the last time, when Biden took office, he dismantled a ton of Trump's policies. Biden didn't delay Afghanistan and he knew that it was going to be a shit show and he followed through with it anyways. Trump did not force Biden to do what he did.

    This is just another, BUT TRUMP!! excuse. It's getting past the point of pathetic. 

    Biden had enough information to make changes to the withdrawal in Afghanistan but none of you will admit that is true and that Biden could've done a better job. 

    Biden's withdrawal killed 13 US Troops. Trump didn't sign that order, Biden did. 
    Can you enumerate the “ton of POOTWH policies” that the Brandon Crime Family dismantled?Say 5 of them?
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    I’ll vote for Biden again! It’s an easy choice never ever Trumpolinni I’d rather be dead..
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,851
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:

    For the last fucking time, a 1023 report is an UNVERIFIED account from a person.  There is no fact checking or evidence required.  I could go to the FBI and say that the PJ 10C board is a front for child trafficking and accuse a guy named TJ of being the leader.  And they will create a 1023.  

    How do you not understand this?  How do you consider anonymous accusations AND hearsay to be evidence?  Give me a fucking break.  
    They spend so much time on bullshit like this...yet the guy they voted for twice and likely will again next year literally faces years in prison. Unreal. 
    BUT TRUMP!!! 
    Trump is responsible for the deaths of five cops, and conservatives are still supporting him over everyone else 

    Trump is the only topic conservatives are allowed to discuss bc he is responsible for police deaths yet the right STILL SUPPORTS HIM. There is nothing else you get to say outside of trump until he is defeated

    If you and your brethren think that's funny, its time to tear this country in two, bc supporting a cop killer is non negotiable.  
    Biden is responsible for killing 13 U.S Troops. Let me guess..... BUT TRUMP!!!


    Biden attempted to do something extremely difficult. Trump had four years to get out and didn’t have the courage to execute the plan he agreed to with the taliban.  Biden did not cause the death of anyone, terrorists led by a terrorist organization did. Just like the J6 terrorists did under trump’s direction 

    And I hate to tell you that Afghan exit plan was developed by the Trump administration and tied Bidens hands. 

    Telling lies about biden is a direct way of supporting cop killer trump.