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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    JB16057 said:
    His feelings aren't admissable evidence.  

    But let's pull an interesting thread.  This whistleblower confirmed that over the course of like 4 years, Hunter and his associates made $17MM in income from these businesses.  Comer asked the question and he confirmed.  

    So here are the proper questions

    1. How does this IRS agent know?  Well considering he knew the exact number, it means it's on their taxes.
    2. Why didn't Comer ask if they paid taxes on it?  Strange isn't it, if they were doing something illegal to file the income and pay the taxes.  But Comer didn't ask.  I think we know the answer.  They paid their taxes.  There's no crime.  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,531
    JB16057 said:

    not "another" just one now named who was previously anonymous.  now the question for these 2 is really, just who at doj "slow walked" the investigation from its inception? who was ag at the time? 
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  • static111
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    imagine being so angry and dissatisfied that you were constantly faux outraged by the Biden administration trying to help average Americans. Not only that but coming up with conspiracies and nonsense to justify your awful positions.  what a terrible existence that must be.
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    static111 said:
    imagine being so angry and dissatisfied that you were constantly faux outraged by the Biden administration trying to help average Americans. Not only that but coming up with conspiracies and nonsense to justify your awful positions.  what a terrible existence that must be.
    i blame the angertainment media, fox, newsmax, oan, and now twitter, etc. also those that harbor those similar feelings and constantly need to have it reinforced.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,681
    Biden is trying to help students who need assistance in getting out of financial hole! 
    Trumpolinni helped billionaires get richer and in both cases tax payers have to foot the bill! Trumpolinni did zero for the middle class! 
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  • mickeyrat
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  • josevolution
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    This is all you got damn dude I’m an immigrant and I can debate a bit better! Get out of your moms basement see the sky get to the beach! Are you doing any of the shows coming up in September? 
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  • The Juggler
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    JB16057 said:
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    static111 said:
    I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college.  I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves.  The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
    Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education. 

    What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education? 

    Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?!  No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.

    Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
    LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?

    tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
    Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time. 

    I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either. 


    I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump". 
    Tough pill to swallow, isn't it?


    It's pathetic. 
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  • The Juggler
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    static111 said:
    imagine being so angry and dissatisfied that you were constantly faux outraged by the Biden administration trying to help average Americans. Not only that but coming up with conspiracies and nonsense to justify your awful positions.  what a terrible existence that must be.
    It has to be frustrating for them to spend 6 months focusing on it, instead of stuff that actually matters, and to still only have the 30%ish deplorable base really give a shit about it too. 
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  • Lerxst1992
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    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college.  I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves.  The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
    Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education. 

    What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education? 

    Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?!  No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.

    Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
    LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?

    tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
    Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time. 

    I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either. 


    I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump". 

    Because

    He 

    Has



    Thirty

    Point 

    Lead.



    After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
    That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness. 

    Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.


    and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Anyone remember the supply chain issue? How about the lack of baby formula crisis? Inflation? Maybe unemployment? Remember that? How about that train derailment? Maybe the bridge collapse on 95? The border crisis, surely you remember that? Hunter Biden’s lap top!
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  • Lerxst1992
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    You’ll do anything to support cop killer trump? You have any evidence against Biden?

    how about including that two billion dollar trump saudi pay to play deal, and after that you still voted for trump? Guess pay to play is ok if it’s a done by a family of self admitted fifth av muderers?
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
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    static111 said:
    I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college.  I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves.  The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
    Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education. 

    What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education? 

    Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?!  No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.

    Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
    LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?

    tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
    Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time. 

    I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either. 


    I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump". 

    Because

    He 

    Has



    Thirty

    Point 

    Lead.



    After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
    That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness. 

    Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.


    and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
    So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?

    America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt. 

    Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
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    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college.  I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves.  The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
    Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education. 

    What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education? 

    Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?!  No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.

    Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
    LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?

    tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
    Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time. 

    I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either. 


    I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump". 

    Because

    He 

    Has



    Thirty

    Point 

    Lead.



    After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
    That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness. 

    Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.


    and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
    So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?

    America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt. 

    Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself. 
    Alive and breathing? He is the twice impeached, twice indicted former president who is far and away the front runner for your maga gop party for next year's election. He also added trillions (not billions) we don't have for a hand out to the wealthy and corporations. How do you not get how this is an extremely reasonable comparison? lol

    If you have trouble defending the guy you voted for twice, perhaps you should consider supporting someone who is not a threat to ending our democracy as we know it. 
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  • benjs
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    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college.  I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves.  The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
    Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education. 

    What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education? 

    Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?!  No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.

    Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
    LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?

    tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
    Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time. 

    I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either. 


    I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump". 

    Because

    He 

    Has



    Thirty

    Point 

    Lead.



    After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
    That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness. 

    Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.


    and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
    So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?

    America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt. 

    Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself. 
    Alive and breathing? He is the twice impeached, twice indicted former president who is far and away the front runner for your maga gop party for next year's election. He also added trillions (not billions) we don't have for a hand out to the wealthy and corporations. How do you not get how this is an extremely reasonable comparison? lol

    If you have trouble defending the guy you voted for twice, perhaps you should consider supporting someone who is not a threat to ending our democracy as we know it. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,939
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college.  I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves.  The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
    Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education. 

    What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education? 

    Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?!  No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.

    Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
    LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?

    tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
    Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time. 

    I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either. 


    I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump". 

    Because

    He 

    Has



    Thirty

    Point 

    Lead.



    After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
    That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness. 

    Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.


    and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
    So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?

    America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt. 

    Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself. 

    If you have evidence Biden did something wrong, please share.

    as far as debt goes, both parties contribute to that. Republicans only care about it when a dem is in the White House. Otherwise, it’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which add tons to the debt, while providing scraps for the middle class. Dems have a far better record lowering deficits than the gop does.

    our military is damn expensive. Cut there and stop trying to pull PBJ sandwiches from the hands of poor hungry folks.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,681
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college.  I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves.  The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
    Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education. 

    What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education? 

    Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?!  No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.

    Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
    LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?

    tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
    Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time. 

    I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either. 


    I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump". 

    Because

    He 

    Has



    Thirty

    Point 

    Lead.



    After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
    That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness. 

    Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.


    and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
    So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?

    America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt. 

    Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself. 
    Funny did you have a problem when the GOP passed that tax break that resulted in trillions of added debt to our budget? 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Merkin Baller
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    JB16057 said:
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    static111 said:
    I'm not getting any relief from this but I am happy for those that are. Student loans are a bitch, for those of us that came from backgrounds with no family help and went to school at a time where working three jobs couldn't get you through community college.  I've said it before and I will say it again, even if they forgave everyone the hour after all of my payments were made I would still be out celebrating that someone cares about poor and low income people. I don't love Joe, but student loan forgiveness and fixing the cost of higher education was the main reason I voted for him and didn't abstain.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is in college we will catch up to the rest of the civilized world and provide free and low cost education to all that wish to further themselves.  The upper middle class resentment against helping people with this stuff is frankly sickening.
    Forgiving debt does not fix the cost of higher education. 

    What has Joe done to fix the cost of higher education? 

    Do you really think that the only people benefiting from the debt forgiveness are the poor and low income people?!?!  No fucking way! The poor and low income never made it to college.

    Where does the $39 Billion come from? We are borrowing money to pay money that was borrowed. Now all of America will be paying the interest on these loans.
    LOL...were you worried about all of the PPP money (and employee retention credits) when that was doled out?

    tRump gave me $50K that I didn't need and it was tax free.
    Trump also handed out unnecessary tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations during his term. One might be so inclined to call that a hand out and it ended up adding over 2 trillion to the deficit and did not help the economy one bit. They kept saying GDP would sky rocket as a result. Nope. Didn't happen. It was completely unnecessary at that time. 

    I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing ol'JB didn't benefit from that too much and, now I'm just going out on a limb here, I bet he also didn't complain about it too much either. 


    I'm talking about Biden and student loan forgiveness and everyone wants to discuss Trump. The only argument you all have is, "but Trump". 

    Because

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    Lead.



    After he personally caused the deaths of five police officers and two of his voters. Conservatives need to have their heads examined if they are unwilling to end trumps tyranny once and for all in these primaries.
    That's fine but it still has nothing to do with Biden or student loan forgiveness. 

    Shrugging off a man about to be nominated for president capable of causing the deaths of cops and his own voters over partial loan forgiveness? Cmon man, admit that’s the height of absurdity.


    and I believe the biggest mistake in the interpretation of my comments here is not that my comments are about trump as THEY ARE NOT. They are about the millions of Americans willing to shrug their shoulders and vote for an admitted murderer. Not just on fifth ave but anywhere.
    So you're telling me that because Trump is still alive and breathing, that we can not discuss any other issues?

    America doesn't have $39 Billion. We have to borrow that money to pay other debts. Our economy is not sustainable when all we do is dig a bigger hole in debt. 

    Funny that you all call MAGA a cult but you'll defend every mistake Biden makes because "Trump". That is cult behavior in itself. 
    Wake up, JB. 

    The demagogues you support and defend with such passion and vigor are the ones driving our country into the ground. 

    “Tax cuts initially enacted during Republican trifectas in the past 25 years slashed taxes disproportionately for the wealthy and profitable corporations, severely reducing federal revenues. In fact, relative to earlier projections, spending is down, not up. But revenues are down significantly more. If not for the Bush tax cuts4and their extensions5—as well as the Trump tax cuts6—revenues would be on track to keep pace with spending indefinitely, and the debt ratio (debt as a percentage of the economy) would be declining. Instead, these tax cuts have added $10 trillion to the debt since their enactment and are responsible for 57 percent of the increase in the debt ratio since 2001, and more than 90 percent of the increase in the debt ratio if the one-time costs of bills responding to COVID-19 and the Great Recession are excluded. Eventually, the tax cuts are projected to grow to more than 100 percent of the increase.”

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/tax-cuts-are-primarily-responsible-for-the-increasing-debt-ratio/