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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited July 2023
    RYME said:
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
    Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

    No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Let's give RYME some credit here.  Maybe some don't agree with his take on things, but at least he makes an attempt to state what they are and his reasons for his beliefs.  This is far more credible that the hit and run bullshit posts we so often get from some of our other right to hard right leaning posters.  Please don't make this a "hate RYME" thread.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    brianlux said:
    Let's give RYME some credit here.  Maybe some don't agree with his take on things, but at least he makes an attempt to state what they are and his reasons for his beliefs.  This is far more credible that the hit and run bullshit posts we so often get from some of our other right to hard right leaning posters.  Please don't make this a "hate RYME" thread.
    I agree. He seems like a good guy and I hope my post doesn't come across in the way you describe. I'm just trying to understand some of the logic because it's a little confusing to me. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    brianlux said:
    Let's give RYME some credit here.  Maybe some don't agree with his take on things, but at least he makes an attempt to state what they are and his reasons for his beliefs.  This is far more credible that the hit and run bullshit posts we so often get from some of our other right to hard right leaning posters.  Please don't make this a "hate RYME" thread.
    I agree. He seems like a good guy and I hope my post doesn't come across in the way you describe. I'm just trying to understand some of the logic because it's a little confusing to me. 

    No worries, bud, I didn't mean to direct my comment at you or anyone in particular. 
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    RYME said:
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
    Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

    No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 
    I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
    I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
    I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
    I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    edited July 2023
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
    Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

    No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 
    I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
    I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
    I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
    I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
    the part I bolded is total bullcrap.  There is nothing in the Constitution that allows for that.  He was fed those lies because he wants to ingest those lies and he doesn't care what's true or not, so long as it helps him or his family.  We know that he was told by multiple quality attorneys (like Pat Cipollone, the actual WH counsel) that there was ZERO path for that once the elections were certified by the states.  He listened to the charlatans, not the professionals.  There's no excuse for it. 
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited July 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
    Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

    No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 
    I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
    I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
    I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
    I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
    the part I bolded is total bullcrap.  There is nothing in the Constitution that allows for that.  He was fed those lies because he wants to ingest those lies and he doesn't care what's true or not, so long as it helps him or his family.  We know that he was told by multiple quality attorneys (like Pat Cipollone, the actual WH counsel) that there was ZERO path for that once the elections were certified by the states.  He listened to the charlatans, not the professionals.  There's no excuse for it. 
    I know that. But he was told he could do this and it could happen by 2 of his top advisers And strategists.  So in the run up to Jan 6th, Trump thought that that was a possibility and could haopen, And ihe was banking on it.
     Pretty stupid, Because there was no way that was ever gonna happen, but he thought it could.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,810
    edited July 2023
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
    Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

    No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 
    I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
    I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
    I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
    I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
    I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here... 

    I have to refute the above  boldface section though: 
    Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.  

    Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal". 

    You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power. 


    I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    RYME said:
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
    Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

    No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 
    I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
    I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
    I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
    I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
    the part I bolded is total bullcrap.  There is nothing in the Constitution that allows for that.  He was fed those lies because he wants to ingest those lies and he doesn't care what's true or not, so long as it helps him or his family.  We know that he was told by multiple quality attorneys (like Pat Cipollone, the actual WH counsel) that there was ZERO path for that once the elections were certified by the states.  He listened to the charlatans, not the professionals.  There's no excuse for it. 
    I know that. But he was told he could do this and it could happen by 2 of his top advisers And strategists.  So in the run up to Jan 6th, Trump thought that that was a possibility and could haopen, And ihe was banking on it.
     Pretty stupid, Because there was no way that was ever gonna happen, but he thought it could.
    I think you're being naive.  He knew it wasn't legitimate.  His WH counsel, AG and the career DOJ officials all told him that.  That goes along with Pence and his legal staff.  He wanted someone to give him something that he could plausibly sell and Rudy and Jeffrey Clark did that.  But if 20 excellent attorneys tell you something and 2 dipshits tell you the opposite, who should someone that controls the nuclear codes believe?
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
    Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

    No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 
    I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
    I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
    I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
    I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
    I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here... 

    I have to refute the above  boldface section though: 
    Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.  

    Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal". 

    You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power. 


    I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up. 
    Fair enough,  I'm wide awake. 🙂
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
    Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

    No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 
    I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
    I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
    I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
    I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
    I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here... 

    I have to refute the above  boldface section though: 
    Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.  

    Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal". 

    You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power. 


    I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up. 
    Fair enough,  I'm wide awake. 🙂
    So...you're woke, then?
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  • seanwon
    seanwon Posts: 598
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    And if you believe this, you just might be in a cult:

    Yes it is awsome that the democrat mafia gangster crime family & co. live and work at the White House!!  That's fantastic!!  Iove it. 
    I was being facetious to the other dude who said it was awesome that they found coke in the White House. , wake up Halifax!!  You obviously have no sense of humor at all and no compas!!
    No sense of humour, you say? My compass is just fine. You may want to check yours. And sure you were, sure.
    So you chose the arm chopped off at the elbow. 
    Fair enough.   I respect you're decision.
    Yes, some of us knew what an incompetent boob POS POOTWH was and is. We’re lucky we survived those four years.
    Wel,  I'm listening to The Why Store right now,  bet you've never heard of them.  They're an Indi band from Indiana, Check'hem out!! It's all good,  🍻  good evening. 
    No i did not vote for Trump in 2020.  Was disgusted and sat it out. Y'all think I'm right wing.
    Your damn wrong about me.  I supported 3 things that Trump did and that's where it ended. 
    Y'all think I'm racist?
    My best friend where I work,  is black, his name is Willie,  and he knows I'd jump in front of a train for him if need be.  And my wife is from Lithuania. 
    I never heard those words About homophobe and xenophobia and the rest before Hillary's Basket of deplorable's rant that actually cost her the election after months of election analysis.
    I don't live like that and never will so bleep off you judgementaliats who think they know people through disjointed computer conversations. 
    “Y'all think I'm racist?
    My best friend where I work,  is black, his name is Willie”

    only deplorable racists say shit like this. one black friend doesn’t mean a person isn’t racist. 
    Ever notice the black proud boys?  Does your “black friend” from work know that’s how you announce your friendship/loyalty to him.  Ask him how he feels about that.  Not voting is racist.  If you’re not against it then you’re for it.  Doing nothing is just that, nothing!  And trumps wife is also from another country but that means absolutely nothing to prevent his immigration rants/prejudice/hatred/false accusations and “failed” wall.  

    Non racists just have friends, no need for the color explanation.  Racists just don’t get it.  

    That's how I feel about grown men getting naked in front of kids.  No gray area, no qualifiers.  If you aren't against it, you are for it.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    seanwon said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    And if you believe this, you just might be in a cult:

    Yes it is awsome that the democrat mafia gangster crime family & co. live and work at the White House!!  That's fantastic!!  Iove it. 
    I was being facetious to the other dude who said it was awesome that they found coke in the White House. , wake up Halifax!!  You obviously have no sense of humor at all and no compas!!
    No sense of humour, you say? My compass is just fine. You may want to check yours. And sure you were, sure.
    So you chose the arm chopped off at the elbow. 
    Fair enough.   I respect you're decision.
    Yes, some of us knew what an incompetent boob POS POOTWH was and is. We’re lucky we survived those four years.
    Wel,  I'm listening to The Why Store right now,  bet you've never heard of them.  They're an Indi band from Indiana, Check'hem out!! It's all good,  🍻  good evening. 
    No i did not vote for Trump in 2020.  Was disgusted and sat it out. Y'all think I'm right wing.
    Your damn wrong about me.  I supported 3 things that Trump did and that's where it ended. 
    Y'all think I'm racist?
    My best friend where I work,  is black, his name is Willie,  and he knows I'd jump in front of a train for him if need be.  And my wife is from Lithuania. 
    I never heard those words About homophobe and xenophobia and the rest before Hillary's Basket of deplorable's rant that actually cost her the election after months of election analysis.
    I don't live like that and never will so bleep off you judgementaliats who think they know people through disjointed computer conversations. 
    “Y'all think I'm racist?
    My best friend where I work,  is black, his name is Willie”

    only deplorable racists say shit like this. one black friend doesn’t mean a person isn’t racist. 
    Ever notice the black proud boys?  Does your “black friend” from work know that’s how you announce your friendship/loyalty to him.  Ask him how he feels about that.  Not voting is racist.  If you’re not against it then you’re for it.  Doing nothing is just that, nothing!  And trumps wife is also from another country but that means absolutely nothing to prevent his immigration rants/prejudice/hatred/false accusations and “failed” wall.  

    Non racists just have friends, no need for the color explanation.  Racists just don’t get it.  

    That's how I feel about grown men getting naked in front of kids.  No gray area, no qualifiers.  If you aren't against it, you are for it.
    What a strange post.  It's amazing how often some people focus on this sort of topic.  
  • mickeyrat
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,810
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
    Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

    No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 
    I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
    I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
    I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
    I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
    I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here... 

    I have to refute the above  boldface section though: 
    Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.  

    Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal". 

    You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power. 


    I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up. 
    Fair enough,  I'm wide awake. 🙂
    Cool. 

    You should look into Stop the Steal from 2016... it's pretty enlightening. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    mickeyrat said:
    Chopra had declared earlier this year that the Bureau would be cracking down on junk fees.  This sort of fine will start showing up in all sorts of consent orders.  I expect it to be most prevalent in auto lending. 

    Before people start celebrating, you have to understand that Banks will always find ways to offset risk.  One way was to increase revenue.  The second way is to reduce lending.  That's what happened after the Card Act.  Congress thought that the large banks would just absorb the credit risk.  They didn't, they walked away from subprime.  That created a secondary market of predatory lenders that is much more difficult for the Bureau to oversee.  It's harder now for sub and underserved customers to get decent credit without usurious rates or fees. 
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited July 2023
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 
    Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
    Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
    I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
    What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
    Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

    No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 
    I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
    I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
    I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
    I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
    I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here... 

    I have to refute the above  boldface section though: 
    Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.  

    Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal". 

    You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power. 


    I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up. 
    Fair enough,  I'm wide awake. 🙂
    So...you're woke, then?
    I still drink Budweiser and shop at Target  🙂

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