Face Value Ticket Exchange (F2F)

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  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY Posts: 934
    Still ISO 1 Indy, please and thank you. I'll take 2 and bring a friend if I must.
    May your days be long, til kingdom come.
  • UtahBolt
    UtahBolt Posts: 196
    Still looking for face value Austin for our travel friends and find it odd that all the Austin PJ Prem. tix are now $433.38?  Weren't the premiums $372 something?  Weird...

    Austin seems to be the tough ticket so far...
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,315
    UtahBolt said:
    Still looking for face value Austin for our travel friends and find it odd that all the Austin PJ Prem. tix are now $433.38?  Weren't the premiums $372 something?  Weird...

    Austin seems to be the tough ticket so far...
    Dynamic pricing 
  • UtahBolt
    UtahBolt Posts: 196
    SHZA said:
    UtahBolt said:
    Still looking for face value Austin for our travel friends and find it odd that all the Austin PJ Prem. tix are now $433.38?  Weren't the premiums $372 something?  Weird...

    Austin seems to be the tough ticket so far...
    Dynamic pricing 
    Oh makes sense...did not realize F2F had dynamic as well.   Just one more layer for TM to gouge us!
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,837
    We All Believe said:
    Still ISO 1 Indy, please and thank you. I'll take 2 and bring a friend if I must.
    I can be your friend! 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY Posts: 934
    RatherStarved said:
    We All Believe said:
    Still ISO 1 Indy, please and thank you. I'll take 2 and bring a friend if I must.
    I can be your friend!
    May your days be long, til kingdom come.
  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY Posts: 934
    RatherStarved said:
    We All Believe said:
    Still ISO 1 Indy, please and thank you. I'll take 2 and bring a friend if I must.
    I can be your friend! 
    You're in lol!
    May your days be long, til kingdom come.
  • DenverLovesPJ
    DenverLovesPJ Colorado Posts: 31
    Indy Sec H row X was up and then gone. 
  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY Posts: 934
    DenverLovesPJ said:
    Indy Sec H row X was up and then gone. 
    Hulk angry. Hulk not F5 fast enough. Hulk hates job.
    May your days be long, til kingdom come.
  • DenverLovesPJ
    DenverLovesPJ Colorado Posts: 31
    We All Believe said:
    DenverLovesPJ said:
    Indy Sec H row X was up and then gone. 
    Hulk angry. Hulk not F5 fast enough. Hulk hates job.

    =)
  • josermoreno
    josermoreno Posts: 191
    St paul 1 101 is up.
    Sunfest Gimli, Manitoba 1993. Winnipeg 2005,2011. St Paul 2014,St Paul 1&2 2023  N1&2. Chicago 1&2 Sept 5&7.  Austin,Texas 1&2 Sept 18&19,2023
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,305
    STP1 106 is up. 
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,305
    STP2 single 107 is up 
  • armydub
    armydub Posts: 40

    SHZA said:
    armydub said:
    OfThePearl said:
    10th row, behind the stage
    Grabbed them.  closer to the stage and lower bowl.  Posting my 214 rG now.

    edit - Live now.
    I think I know who got em.

    Tickets went live on F2F at 4:31 pm Central, these were listed 47 minutes later 


    That's disappointing.  If I do any other upgrades before the TX run of shows, I'll make sure to at least try to do a timed drop so that someone from here has a better shot.  
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  • dmbolp
    dmbolp ATL Posts: 1,513
    UtahBolt said:
    SHZA said:
    UtahBolt said:
    Still looking for face value Austin for our travel friends and find it odd that all the Austin PJ Prem. tix are now $433.38?  Weren't the premiums $372 something?  Weird...

    Austin seems to be the tough ticket so far...
    Dynamic pricing 
    Oh makes sense...did not realize F2F had dynamic as well.   Just one more layer for TM to gouge us!
    Those aren't F2F (previously purchased and now resale), those are initial sale PJ Premium / LN Platinum 
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,315
    JeBurkhardt said:
    PJNB said:
    Scalper’s are definitely grabbing tickets and selling them and the burner account on other sites.
    It sucks. No matter how you try to safeguard the process to keep scalpers and scammers out, they always find a way around it. 
    PJ Premium is just an authorized form of scalping. But yeah it's too bad that this no transfer system isn't more effective at shutting down the scalpers. 
  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,740
    edited June 2023
    The only totally full proof system would be a true no transfer system where all tickets are picked up at the box office prior to the show and you are immediately forced to enter the venue right after you receive your tickets. But I don’t think that would be a good system either because it would be unfair to fans who can’t use the tickets and have no ability to sell them to recoup their losses. So I do think it’s important to have the ability to transfer tickets for face value. I don’t love the idea of premium priced tickets, but if the trade off is having a small percentage of the tickets allocated to premium so that 10c can get more face value tickets into the hands of fan club members (which appears to have happened here), then I think it’s a reasonable compromise. The only real solution I see is for people not to buy the premiums, thereby reducing the demand for them down to face value prices by the day of the show. 
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,837
    The German system is interesting.  The name of the buyer is on the ticket and you have to show photo ID to use it, as with a flight.  They have a face value or less exchange operated by the original vendor which is the only way a new name can be put on the ticket.  Someone else probably knows more details of how it works than I do.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,740
    RatherStarved said:
    The German system is interesting.  The name of the buyer is on the ticket and you have to show photo ID to use it, as with a flight.  They have a face value or less exchange operated by the original vendor which is the only way a new name can be put on the ticket.  Someone else probably knows more details of how it works than I do.  
    That sounds like a pretty good idea, at least in theory. The only potential complication I foresee are the logistics of changing the name on the ticket during the face value exchange process, but I’m sure that could be worked out. It’s an interesting idea for sure. 
  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,740
    STP N2 pair up in 107. 
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