Desantis

mfc2006 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mfc2006 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.

I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

Citizens of states elect their representatives to office by either voting or not voting, as the case may be. Citizens of both Tejas and Flo Rida via the majorities that have voted have elected their representatives and the percentage of non-voters are either okay with the results or don’t seem to give a fuck that nazi tinged authoritarianism is on the march. Thus, both states, by about 2/3 to 1/3, maybe 3/4 to 1/4, have populations that I don’t want anything to do with. If I were you, and I’m not, and you are yours, I’d reconsider moving to Tejas but regardless, I wish you the best. ‘Murica is fucked after 8 million more voted for POOTWH after 4 years of knowing what we knew and that is the other major political party now. I won’t live long enough to see it swing back to “reasonableness.”

 I’m sorry, but a populations tolerance for what is going on in those states taints everyone. Just ask the Germans.

And don’t worry about attacking me, I can take it.

I'm not going to attack you. There is no point and that is not how I operate. You and I probably agree on a lot of things, but we definitely disagree here & that's ok. By your rationale, every state is "tainted" & we are all fucked. 

I appreciate your concern about where we move, but that is none of your concern at all. We are not moving there with blinders on about what is going on in the state, not at all. We also didn't have blinders on when we moved to Oregon or Missouri, both of which have major cultural, political & societal flaws. I think that's the difference between you and I on this issue, I can see through the flaws and actually see the good things that any city or state can provide. 

If we move, I plan on being active there just like I am here and like I was in Oregon. I'm not going to subscribe to the doom and gloom narrative, but rather try to make things better.

I think that making sweeping accusations and statements about an entire population (whether city, state or national) is a terrible way to view the world - and a dangerous one. 

Gern Blansten said:

I wouldn't get too upset about the general description of TX and FL being red. I'm in red meat IN and I don't take generalizations like that personally.

It's an electoral college thing. There are enough red meat magats in some states to taint the whole lot of us.

nicknyr15 said:

mfc2006 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mfc2006 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.

I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

Citizens of states elect their representatives to office by either voting or not voting, as the case may be. Citizens of both Tejas and Flo Rida via the majorities that have voted have elected their representatives and the percentage of non-voters are either okay with the results or don’t seem to give a fuck that nazi tinged authoritarianism is on the march. Thus, both states, by about 2/3 to 1/3, maybe 3/4 to 1/4, have populations that I don’t want anything to do with. If I were you, and I’m not, and you are yours, I’d reconsider moving to Tejas but regardless, I wish you the best. ‘Murica is fucked after 8 million more voted for POOTWH after 4 years of knowing what we knew and that is the other major political party now. I won’t live long enough to see it swing back to “reasonableness.”

 I’m sorry, but a populations tolerance for what is going on in those states taints everyone. Just ask the Germans.

And don’t worry about attacking me, I can take it.

I'm not going to attack you. There is no point and that is not how I operate. You and I probably agree on a lot of things, but we definitely disagree here & that's ok. By your rationale, every state is "tainted" & we are all fucked. 

I appreciate your concern about where we move, but that is none of your concern at all. We are not moving there with blinders on about what is going on in the state, not at all. We also didn't have blinders on when we moved to Oregon or Missouri, both of which have major cultural, political & societal flaws. I think that's the difference between you and I on this issue, I can see through the flaws and actually see the good things that any city or state can provide. 

If we move, I plan on being active there just like I am here and like I was in Oregon. I'm not going to subscribe to the doom and gloom narrative, but rather try to make things better.

I think that making sweeping accusations and statements about an entire population (whether city, state or national) is a terrible way to view the world - and a dangerous one. 

Could not agree more 

mfc2006 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mfc2006 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.

I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

Citizens of states elect their representatives to office by either voting or not voting, as the case may be. Citizens of both Tejas and Flo Rida via the majorities that have voted have elected their representatives and the percentage of non-voters are either okay with the results or don’t seem to give a fuck that nazi tinged authoritarianism is on the march. Thus, both states, by about 2/3 to 1/3, maybe 3/4 to 1/4, have populations that I don’t want anything to do with. If I were you, and I’m not, and you are yours, I’d reconsider moving to Tejas but regardless, I wish you the best. ‘Murica is fucked after 8 million more voted for POOTWH after 4 years of knowing what we knew and that is the other major political party now. I won’t live long enough to see it swing back to “reasonableness.”

 I’m sorry, but a populations tolerance for what is going on in those states taints everyone. Just ask the Germans.

And don’t worry about attacking me, I can take it.

I'm not going to attack you. There is no point and that is not how I operate. You and I probably agree on a lot of things, but we definitely disagree here & that's ok. By your rationale, every state is "tainted" & we are all fucked. 

I appreciate your concern about where we move, but that is none of your concern at all. We are not moving there with blinders on about what is going on in the state, not at all. We also didn't have blinders on when we moved to Oregon or Missouri, both of which have major cultural, political & societal flaws. I think that's the difference between you and I on this issue, I can see through the flaws and actually see the good things that any city or state can provide. 

If we move, I plan on being active there just like I am here and like I was in Oregon. I'm not going to subscribe to the doom and gloom narrative, but rather try to make things better.

I think that making sweeping accusations and statements about an entire population (whether city, state or national) is a terrible way to view the world - and a dangerous one. 

gimmesometruth27 said:

mfc2006 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I wouldn't get too upset about the general description of TX and FL being red. I'm in red meat IN and I don't take generalizations like that personally.

It's an electoral college thing. There are enough red meat magats in some states to taint the whole lot of us.

It wasn't the Red/Blue (MO is also quite Red), it was the Nazi language that irked me and the fact that one group as a whole should not be generalized. There is always a grey area. 

mo used to be blue. unfortunately i do not ever see it going back with the way the districts are here. 

benjs said:

mfc2006 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mfc2006 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.

I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

Citizens of states elect their representatives to office by either voting or not voting, as the case may be. Citizens of both Tejas and Flo Rida via the majorities that have voted have elected their representatives and the percentage of non-voters are either okay with the results or don’t seem to give a fuck that nazi tinged authoritarianism is on the march. Thus, both states, by about 2/3 to 1/3, maybe 3/4 to 1/4, have populations that I don’t want anything to do with. If I were you, and I’m not, and you are yours, I’d reconsider moving to Tejas but regardless, I wish you the best. ‘Murica is fucked after 8 million more voted for POOTWH after 4 years of knowing what we knew and that is the other major political party now. I won’t live long enough to see it swing back to “reasonableness.”

 I’m sorry, but a populations tolerance for what is going on in those states taints everyone. Just ask the Germans.

And don’t worry about attacking me, I can take it.

I'm not going to attack you. There is no point and that is not how I operate. You and I probably agree on a lot of things, but we definitely disagree here & that's ok. By your rationale, every state is "tainted" & we are all fucked. 

I appreciate your concern about where we move, but that is none of your concern at all. We are not moving there with blinders on about what is going on in the state, not at all. We also didn't have blinders on when we moved to Oregon or Missouri, both of which have major cultural, political & societal flaws. I think that's the difference between you and I on this issue, I can see through the flaws and actually see the good things that any city or state can provide. 

If we move, I plan on being active there just like I am here and like I was in Oregon. I'm not going to subscribe to the doom and gloom narrative, but rather try to make things better.

I think that making sweeping accusations and statements about an entire population (whether city, state or national) is a terrible way to view the world - and a dangerous one. 

Just wanted to say - I love the way you handled this. I wish we could all communicate so eloquently and reasonably, and will try to learn from this example  

With respect to Texas, my understanding is that there are pockets of liberalism that would probably vote in line with H2TM almost 100% of the time. That said, being the minority, they do not have the power to influence the state's government. Their lives are harder as a byproduct of their decision, and I also don't think it's fair to write off the state - it's not a 'basket of deplorables' situation.

Gern Blansten said:

Jesus fucking christ....his response should be very tRumpy