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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 34,971

     
    Drag show restaurant files federal lawsuit against Florida and Gov. DeSantis
    Today

    ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A popular Orlando restaurant that regularly features drag shows filed a federal lawsuit against the state of Florida and Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday, less than a week after he signed a bill that targets drag performances.

    The lawsuit filed in Orlando federal court by the owner of Hamburger Mary’s Orlando claims the state is depriving the business of its First Amendment rights to free expression. The restaurant is asking the court to temporarily stop the law from taking effect while the case moves forward.

    DeSantis has made anti-LGBTQ+ legislation a large part of his agenda as he prepares to seek the Republican presidential nomination. He signed the bill restricting drag performances — along with bills that ban gender-affirming care for minors, restrict discussion of personal pronouns in schools and force people to use certain bathrooms — last Wednesday in front of a cheering crowd at the evangelical Cambridge Christian School in Tampa.

    Hamburger Mary’s Bar & Grille has more than a dozen locations around the U.S., with the Orlando restaurant opening in 2008. According to the lawsuit, the restaurant had hosted “family friendly” drag shows on Sundays, but the new Florida law is forcing them to ban children from all shows. This has led to a 20% drop in Sunday bookings.

    Proponents of the legislation have said the law is meant to keep children from viewing sexually explicit performances. Lawyers for the business argue the new law is so broad and vague that it could be applied to almost any performance that involves a man dressing up like a woman, even if the performance isn't sexual in nature. The lawsuit said the business owners can't risk having their business or liquor licenses suspended or risk facing criminal prosecution by allowing children at the shows.

    The governor's office didn't immediately respond to a message seeking comment about the lawsuit.


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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,020
    mickeyrat said:
    elon is basically the wile e coyote of tech. everything recently has been a hilarious failure.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 34,971
    mickeyrat said:
    elon is basically the wile e coyote of tech. everything recently has been a hilarious failure.

    suuuuuuuper genius
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 34,971
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,020
    you all are laughing at desantis, but he is gonna be president when trump goes on trial.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,874
    Someone is funding a lot of anti-Ron TikToks to influence GenZ. They really want to run against tRump rather than Ron. That should tell us something.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,203
    Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,874
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    Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.
    It's funny because I used to think that Ron would be ok....that his bullshit was just an act to court tRump magats but he has tripled down on his nazi bullshit. Dude is fucked.

    and when I say "ok" I mean he seemed like someone who likely wouldn't govern the same way he campaigned...but I was clearly wrong there
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,020
    Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.
    It's funny because I used to think that Ron would be ok....that his bullshit was just an act to court tRump magats but he has tripled down on his nazi bullshit. Dude is fucked.

    and when I say "ok" I mean he seemed like someone who likely wouldn't govern the same way he campaigned...but I was clearly wrong there
    he wants to make america florida. his campaign hats even say so.

    nobody wants that.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,357
    Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.
    I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

    To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 34,971
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,020
    mickeyrat said:
    i believe squirtspace on twitter had more listeners back when it was a thing.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 34,971
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,203
    mfc2006 said:
    Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.
    I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

    To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

    Citizens of states elect their representatives to office by either voting or not voting, as the case may be. Citizens of both Tejas and Flo Rida via the majorities that have voted have elected their representatives and the percentage of non-voters are either okay with the results or don’t seem to give a fuck that nazi tinged authoritarianism is on the march. Thus, both states, by about 2/3 to 1/3, maybe 3/4 to 1/4, have populations that I don’t want anything to do with. If I were you, and I’m not, and you are yours, I’d reconsider moving to Tejas but regardless, I wish you the best. ‘Murica is fucked after 8 million more voted for POOTWH after 4 years of knowing what we knew and that is the other major political party now. I won’t live long enough to see it swing back to “reasonableness.”

     I’m sorry, but a populations tolerance for what is going on in those states taints everyone. Just ask the Germans.

    And don’t worry about attacking me, I can take it.
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  • Aaron 23Aaron 23 Allen, TX Posts: 523
    edited May 2023
    Was his pres campaign announcement run by the 10C? 🤔
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,357
    mfc2006 said:
    Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.
    I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

    To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

    Citizens of states elect their representatives to office by either voting or not voting, as the case may be. Citizens of both Tejas and Flo Rida via the majorities that have voted have elected their representatives and the percentage of non-voters are either okay with the results or don’t seem to give a fuck that nazi tinged authoritarianism is on the march. Thus, both states, by about 2/3 to 1/3, maybe 3/4 to 1/4, have populations that I don’t want anything to do with. If I were you, and I’m not, and you are yours, I’d reconsider moving to Tejas but regardless, I wish you the best. ‘Murica is fucked after 8 million more voted for POOTWH after 4 years of knowing what we knew and that is the other major political party now. I won’t live long enough to see it swing back to “reasonableness.”

     I’m sorry, but a populations tolerance for what is going on in those states taints everyone. Just ask the Germans.

    And don’t worry about attacking me, I can take it.
    I'm not going to attack you. There is no point and that is not how I operate. You and I probably agree on a lot of things, but we definitely disagree here & that's ok. By your rationale, every state is "tainted" & we are all fucked. 

    I appreciate your concern about where we move, but that is none of your concern at all. We are not moving there with blinders on about what is going on in the state, not at all. We also didn't have blinders on when we moved to Oregon or Missouri, both of which have major cultural, political & societal flaws. I think that's the difference between you and I on this issue, I can see through the flaws and actually see the good things that any city or state can provide. 

    If we move, I plan on being active there just like I am here and like I was in Oregon. I'm not going to subscribe to the doom and gloom narrative, but rather try to make things better.

    I think that making sweeping accusations and statements about an entire population (whether city, state or national) is a terrible way to view the world - and a dangerous one. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,597
    mfc2006 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.
    I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

    To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

    Citizens of states elect their representatives to office by either voting or not voting, as the case may be. Citizens of both Tejas and Flo Rida via the majorities that have voted have elected their representatives and the percentage of non-voters are either okay with the results or don’t seem to give a fuck that nazi tinged authoritarianism is on the march. Thus, both states, by about 2/3 to 1/3, maybe 3/4 to 1/4, have populations that I don’t want anything to do with. If I were you, and I’m not, and you are yours, I’d reconsider moving to Tejas but regardless, I wish you the best. ‘Murica is fucked after 8 million more voted for POOTWH after 4 years of knowing what we knew and that is the other major political party now. I won’t live long enough to see it swing back to “reasonableness.”

     I’m sorry, but a populations tolerance for what is going on in those states taints everyone. Just ask the Germans.

    And don’t worry about attacking me, I can take it.
    I'm not going to attack you. There is no point and that is not how I operate. You and I probably agree on a lot of things, but we definitely disagree here & that's ok. By your rationale, every state is "tainted" & we are all fucked. 

    I appreciate your concern about where we move, but that is none of your concern at all. We are not moving there with blinders on about what is going on in the state, not at all. We also didn't have blinders on when we moved to Oregon or Missouri, both of which have major cultural, political & societal flaws. I think that's the difference between you and I on this issue, I can see through the flaws and actually see the good things that any city or state can provide. 

    If we move, I plan on being active there just like I am here and like I was in Oregon. I'm not going to subscribe to the doom and gloom narrative, but rather try to make things better.

    I think that making sweeping accusations and statements about an entire population (whether city, state or national) is a terrible way to view the world - and a dangerous one. 
    Could not agree more 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,203
    mfc2006 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.
    I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

    To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

    Citizens of states elect their representatives to office by either voting or not voting, as the case may be. Citizens of both Tejas and Flo Rida via the majorities that have voted have elected their representatives and the percentage of non-voters are either okay with the results or don’t seem to give a fuck that nazi tinged authoritarianism is on the march. Thus, both states, by about 2/3 to 1/3, maybe 3/4 to 1/4, have populations that I don’t want anything to do with. If I were you, and I’m not, and you are yours, I’d reconsider moving to Tejas but regardless, I wish you the best. ‘Murica is fucked after 8 million more voted for POOTWH after 4 years of knowing what we knew and that is the other major political party now. I won’t live long enough to see it swing back to “reasonableness.”

     I’m sorry, but a populations tolerance for what is going on in those states taints everyone. Just ask the Germans.

    And don’t worry about attacking me, I can take it.
    I'm not going to attack you. There is no point and that is not how I operate. You and I probably agree on a lot of things, but we definitely disagree here & that's ok. By your rationale, every state is "tainted" & we are all fucked. 

    I appreciate your concern about where we move, but that is none of your concern at all. We are not moving there with blinders on about what is going on in the state, not at all. We also didn't have blinders on when we moved to Oregon or Missouri, both of which have major cultural, political & societal flaws. I think that's the difference between you and I on this issue, I can see through the flaws and actually see the good things that any city or state can provide. 

    If we move, I plan on being active there just like I am here and like I was in Oregon. I'm not going to subscribe to the doom and gloom narrative, but rather try to make things better.

    I think that making sweeping accusations and statements about an entire population (whether city, state or national) is a terrible way to view the world - and a dangerous one. 
    Like you, I’ve lived in multiple states with the difference being that when bad shit happened, they did or do the right thing. And when their elected representatives turn out to be scum, they vote them out of office. These states also try to do what is right by the majority of their citizens and not the privileged few. I respect your opinion and we have differing views. That’s okay.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,874
    I wouldn't get too upset about the general description of TX and FL being red. I'm in red meat IN and I don't take generalizations like that personally.

    It's an electoral college thing. There are enough red meat magats in some states to taint the whole lot of us.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,874
    I think we all know that a generalization like that isn't referring to every single person.
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  • I think it's great! If you are so weak minded and fragile that an entire state can scare you, by all means, stay the fuck away. Works for me. Don't have to be anywhere near a stupid left lib. Just laugh at them here. 

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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,357
    I wouldn't get too upset about the general description of TX and FL being red. I'm in red meat IN and I don't take generalizations like that personally.

    It's an electoral college thing. There are enough red meat magats in some states to taint the whole lot of us.
    It wasn't the Red/Blue (MO is also quite Red), it was the Nazi language that irked me and the fact that one group as a whole should not be generalized. There is always a grey area. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,203
    I think it's great! If you are so weak minded and fragile that an entire state can scare you, by all means, stay the fuck away. Works for me. Don't have to be anywhere near a stupid left lib. Just laugh at them here. 

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    Tejas and Flo Rida scare me and I will stay the fuck away, as well as not spend my money in those states and support their authoritarian ways. Don’t hurt yourself laughing.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,020
    nicknyr15 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.
    I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

    To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

    Citizens of states elect their representatives to office by either voting or not voting, as the case may be. Citizens of both Tejas and Flo Rida via the majorities that have voted have elected their representatives and the percentage of non-voters are either okay with the results or don’t seem to give a fuck that nazi tinged authoritarianism is on the march. Thus, both states, by about 2/3 to 1/3, maybe 3/4 to 1/4, have populations that I don’t want anything to do with. If I were you, and I’m not, and you are yours, I’d reconsider moving to Tejas but regardless, I wish you the best. ‘Murica is fucked after 8 million more voted for POOTWH after 4 years of knowing what we knew and that is the other major political party now. I won’t live long enough to see it swing back to “reasonableness.”

     I’m sorry, but a populations tolerance for what is going on in those states taints everyone. Just ask the Germans.

    And don’t worry about attacking me, I can take it.
    I'm not going to attack you. There is no point and that is not how I operate. You and I probably agree on a lot of things, but we definitely disagree here & that's ok. By your rationale, every state is "tainted" & we are all fucked. 

    I appreciate your concern about where we move, but that is none of your concern at all. We are not moving there with blinders on about what is going on in the state, not at all. We also didn't have blinders on when we moved to Oregon or Missouri, both of which have major cultural, political & societal flaws. I think that's the difference between you and I on this issue, I can see through the flaws and actually see the good things that any city or state can provide. 

    If we move, I plan on being active there just like I am here and like I was in Oregon. I'm not going to subscribe to the doom and gloom narrative, but rather try to make things better.

    I think that making sweeping accusations and statements about an entire population (whether city, state or national) is a terrible way to view the world - and a dangerous one. 
    Could not agree more 
    when texas implements a 6 week abortion ban and then a dozen or 2 dozen other states follow suit, how can anybody say the voters of texas are not harming the rest of us?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,020
    mfc2006 said:
    I wouldn't get too upset about the general description of TX and FL being red. I'm in red meat IN and I don't take generalizations like that personally.

    It's an electoral college thing. There are enough red meat magats in some states to taint the whole lot of us.
    It wasn't the Red/Blue (MO is also quite Red), it was the Nazi language that irked me and the fact that one group as a whole should not be generalized. There is always a grey area. 
    mo used to be blue. unfortunately i do not ever see it going back with the way the districts are here. 
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,902
    mfc2006 said:
    mfc2006 said:
    Deathsantis is POOTWH times ten without the baggage. Guys a fucking nazi but if Tejas and Flo Rida tell us anything, most of ‘Murica is okay with that.
    I think a lot of people have already said this, myself included, but I'm going to say it again. Please stop lumping all people from one state together. If the state is Red, not everyone votes/feels that way & the same goes for Blue states. You basically just said that everyone in 2 states is ok with electing a Nazi. I get it - you don't like how those states are doing pretty much everything. You fail to realize that there are people within those states that don't fit your mold. I am from Texas and we may be moving back there soon, so it irks me a bit to see such close-minded statements. I currently live in Missouri - does that mean that I believe in every fucked up law that exists here? In two words, fuck no.

    To be clear, I am not attacking you or your views, just merely asking you to be a bit more considerate when labeling an entire population. 

    Citizens of states elect their representatives to office by either voting or not voting, as the case may be. Citizens of both Tejas and Flo Rida via the majorities that have voted have elected their representatives and the percentage of non-voters are either okay with the results or don’t seem to give a fuck that nazi tinged authoritarianism is on the march. Thus, both states, by about 2/3 to 1/3, maybe 3/4 to 1/4, have populations that I don’t want anything to do with. If I were you, and I’m not, and you are yours, I’d reconsider moving to Tejas but regardless, I wish you the best. ‘Murica is fucked after 8 million more voted for POOTWH after 4 years of knowing what we knew and that is the other major political party now. I won’t live long enough to see it swing back to “reasonableness.”

     I’m sorry, but a populations tolerance for what is going on in those states taints everyone. Just ask the Germans.

    And don’t worry about attacking me, I can take it.
    I'm not going to attack you. There is no point and that is not how I operate. You and I probably agree on a lot of things, but we definitely disagree here & that's ok. By your rationale, every state is "tainted" & we are all fucked. 

    I appreciate your concern about where we move, but that is none of your concern at all. We are not moving there with blinders on about what is going on in the state, not at all. We also didn't have blinders on when we moved to Oregon or Missouri, both of which have major cultural, political & societal flaws. I think that's the difference between you and I on this issue, I can see through the flaws and actually see the good things that any city or state can provide. 

    If we move, I plan on being active there just like I am here and like I was in Oregon. I'm not going to subscribe to the doom and gloom narrative, but rather try to make things better.

    I think that making sweeping accusations and statements about an entire population (whether city, state or national) is a terrible way to view the world - and a dangerous one. 
    Just wanted to say - I love the way you handled this. I wish we could all communicate so eloquently and reasonably, and will try to learn from this example :) 

    With respect to Texas, my understanding is that there are pockets of liberalism that would probably vote in line with H2TM almost 100% of the time. That said, being the minority, they do not have the power to influence the state's government. Their lives are harder as a byproduct of their decision, and I also don't think it's fair to write off the state - it's not a 'basket of deplorables' situation.
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