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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,597
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob should have kept your mouth shut given the looming smartmatic trial....


     
    Lachlan Murdoch explains settlement, says no change at Fox
    By DAVID BAUDER
    Today

    NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News paid $787 million to settle a recent lawsuit on its reporting after the 2020 election to avoid a divisive trial and lengthy appeals process, its parent company's chief executive said on Tuesday.

    Lachlan Murdoch, executive chairman and CEO of Fox Corp., also noted that a Delaware judge “severely limited” Fox's defenses against Dominion Voting Systems, which said the network defamed it by airing bogus charges of election fraud that it knew was untrue.

    Fox Corp. announced Tuesday that it had lost $50 million the previous three months, which it attributed to the lawsuit settlement. Murdoch, who answered questions from financial analysts, was speaking in public for the first time since the case ended and Fox fired its most popular anchor, Tucker Carlson.

    Murdoch said viewers, and investors, should expect no change in direction from Fox News.

    “We made the business decision to resolve this dispute and avoid the acrimony of a divisive trial and multi-year appeal process, a decision clearly in the best interests of the company and its shareholders,” he said.

    Fox still believes it was properly exercising its First Amendment rights to report on newsworthy fraud allegations made by former President Donald Trump, even though that defense was shot down in a pre-trial court ruling in the Dominion case, Murdoch said.

    That's important, since Murdoch said Fox intends to use the same defense against a similar lawsuit by another elections technology company, Smartmatic. That case is not expected to go to trial until at least 2025, he said.

    Despite being asked directly about Carlson's exit, Murdoch didn't mention the former prime-time host's name and referred to his reign obliquely. Fox has not explained why it cut ties with Carlson.

    “There's no change in programming strategy at Fox News,” he said. “It's obviously a successful strategy. As always, we are adjusting our programming and our lineup and that's what we continue to do.”

    Fox and Dominion Voting Systems reached a $787 million settlement Tuesday in the voting machine company’s defamation lawsuit, averting a trial. (April 18)

    Although hurt by the Carlson exit, Fox News remains the leading cable news network.

    Fox has lost viewers following Carlson's firing. Last week's substitute host, Lawrence Jones, reached between 1.28 million and 1.7 million last week in a time slot where Carlson usually drew around 3 million, the Nielsen company said.

    Yet Fox has gained more than 40 new advertisers in that hour, the network said, confirming a report in Variety. Advertisers like Gillette, Scott's Miracle Gro and Secret deodorant that had considered Carlson's show a toxic environment have signed on.


    So the advertisers are A OK with the content they just had a problem with the talking head.  Good to know.

    ad revenue is inconsequential.  cable carriage fees is where their profit is.
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  • static111
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    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob should have kept your mouth shut given the looming smartmatic trial....


     
    Lachlan Murdoch explains settlement, says no change at Fox
    By DAVID BAUDER
    Today

    NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News paid $787 million to settle a recent lawsuit on its reporting after the 2020 election to avoid a divisive trial and lengthy appeals process, its parent company's chief executive said on Tuesday.

    Lachlan Murdoch, executive chairman and CEO of Fox Corp., also noted that a Delaware judge “severely limited” Fox's defenses against Dominion Voting Systems, which said the network defamed it by airing bogus charges of election fraud that it knew was untrue.

    Fox Corp. announced Tuesday that it had lost $50 million the previous three months, which it attributed to the lawsuit settlement. Murdoch, who answered questions from financial analysts, was speaking in public for the first time since the case ended and Fox fired its most popular anchor, Tucker Carlson.

    Murdoch said viewers, and investors, should expect no change in direction from Fox News.

    “We made the business decision to resolve this dispute and avoid the acrimony of a divisive trial and multi-year appeal process, a decision clearly in the best interests of the company and its shareholders,” he said.

    Fox still believes it was properly exercising its First Amendment rights to report on newsworthy fraud allegations made by former President Donald Trump, even though that defense was shot down in a pre-trial court ruling in the Dominion case, Murdoch said.

    That's important, since Murdoch said Fox intends to use the same defense against a similar lawsuit by another elections technology company, Smartmatic. That case is not expected to go to trial until at least 2025, he said.

    Despite being asked directly about Carlson's exit, Murdoch didn't mention the former prime-time host's name and referred to his reign obliquely. Fox has not explained why it cut ties with Carlson.

    “There's no change in programming strategy at Fox News,” he said. “It's obviously a successful strategy. As always, we are adjusting our programming and our lineup and that's what we continue to do.”

    Fox and Dominion Voting Systems reached a $787 million settlement Tuesday in the voting machine company’s defamation lawsuit, averting a trial. (April 18)

    Although hurt by the Carlson exit, Fox News remains the leading cable news network.

    Fox has lost viewers following Carlson's firing. Last week's substitute host, Lawrence Jones, reached between 1.28 million and 1.7 million last week in a time slot where Carlson usually drew around 3 million, the Nielsen company said.

    Yet Fox has gained more than 40 new advertisers in that hour, the network said, confirming a report in Variety. Advertisers like Gillette, Scott's Miracle Gro and Secret deodorant that had considered Carlson's show a toxic environment have signed on.


    So the advertisers are A OK with the content they just had a problem with the talking head.  Good to know.

    ad revenue is inconsequential.  cable carriage fees is where their profit is.
    Which begs the question, why do cable providers agree to their terms?  It must be because they are also OK with the messaging of the programs.  Money talks as they say and if cable companies allow fox to charge what they charge and advertisers continue buying airtime, that to me is an endorsement of the programming.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,112
    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob should have kept your mouth shut given the looming smartmatic trial....


     
    Lachlan Murdoch explains settlement, says no change at Fox
    By DAVID BAUDER
    Today

    NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News paid $787 million to settle a recent lawsuit on its reporting after the 2020 election to avoid a divisive trial and lengthy appeals process, its parent company's chief executive said on Tuesday.

    Lachlan Murdoch, executive chairman and CEO of Fox Corp., also noted that a Delaware judge “severely limited” Fox's defenses against Dominion Voting Systems, which said the network defamed it by airing bogus charges of election fraud that it knew was untrue.

    Fox Corp. announced Tuesday that it had lost $50 million the previous three months, which it attributed to the lawsuit settlement. Murdoch, who answered questions from financial analysts, was speaking in public for the first time since the case ended and Fox fired its most popular anchor, Tucker Carlson.

    Murdoch said viewers, and investors, should expect no change in direction from Fox News.

    “We made the business decision to resolve this dispute and avoid the acrimony of a divisive trial and multi-year appeal process, a decision clearly in the best interests of the company and its shareholders,” he said.

    Fox still believes it was properly exercising its First Amendment rights to report on newsworthy fraud allegations made by former President Donald Trump, even though that defense was shot down in a pre-trial court ruling in the Dominion case, Murdoch said.

    That's important, since Murdoch said Fox intends to use the same defense against a similar lawsuit by another elections technology company, Smartmatic. That case is not expected to go to trial until at least 2025, he said.

    Despite being asked directly about Carlson's exit, Murdoch didn't mention the former prime-time host's name and referred to his reign obliquely. Fox has not explained why it cut ties with Carlson.

    “There's no change in programming strategy at Fox News,” he said. “It's obviously a successful strategy. As always, we are adjusting our programming and our lineup and that's what we continue to do.”

    Fox and Dominion Voting Systems reached a $787 million settlement Tuesday in the voting machine company’s defamation lawsuit, averting a trial. (April 18)

    Although hurt by the Carlson exit, Fox News remains the leading cable news network.

    Fox has lost viewers following Carlson's firing. Last week's substitute host, Lawrence Jones, reached between 1.28 million and 1.7 million last week in a time slot where Carlson usually drew around 3 million, the Nielsen company said.

    Yet Fox has gained more than 40 new advertisers in that hour, the network said, confirming a report in Variety. Advertisers like Gillette, Scott's Miracle Gro and Secret deodorant that had considered Carlson's show a toxic environment have signed on.


    So the advertisers are A OK with the content they just had a problem with the talking head.  Good to know.

    ad revenue is inconsequential.  cable carriage fees is where their profit is.
    You side tracked me.  The point I was making is that any advertiser that decides to start advertising now on fox just because tucker is gone is endorsing the rest of the programming and messaging.  Which basically means they shied away from a controversial figurehead, but not the actual messaging and views of Fox News nor tucker's programming.  What changed that Gillete, Scotts, and others now feel ok being affiliated with Fox News?  Nothing really. One guy is out behind the desk, but the rage machine continues rolling down the tracks.
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,597
    static111 said:9
    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob should have kept your mouth shut given the looming smartmatic trial....


     
    Lachlan Murdoch explains settlement, says no change at Fox
    By DAVID BAUDER
    Today

    NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News paid $787 million to settle a recent lawsuit on its reporting after the 2020 election to avoid a divisive trial and lengthy appeals process, its parent company's chief executive said on Tuesday.

    Lachlan Murdoch, executive chairman and CEO of Fox Corp., also noted that a Delaware judge “severely limited” Fox's defenses against Dominion Voting Systems, which said the network defamed it by airing bogus charges of election fraud that it knew was untrue.

    Fox Corp. announced Tuesday that it had lost $50 million the previous three months, which it attributed to the lawsuit settlement. Murdoch, who answered questions from financial analysts, was speaking in public for the first time since the case ended and Fox fired its most popular anchor, Tucker Carlson.

    Murdoch said viewers, and investors, should expect no change in direction from Fox News.

    “We made the business decision to resolve this dispute and avoid the acrimony of a divisive trial and multi-year appeal process, a decision clearly in the best interests of the company and its shareholders,” he said.

    Fox still believes it was properly exercising its First Amendment rights to report on newsworthy fraud allegations made by former President Donald Trump, even though that defense was shot down in a pre-trial court ruling in the Dominion case, Murdoch said.

    That's important, since Murdoch said Fox intends to use the same defense against a similar lawsuit by another elections technology company, Smartmatic. That case is not expected to go to trial until at least 2025, he said.

    Despite being asked directly about Carlson's exit, Murdoch didn't mention the former prime-time host's name and referred to his reign obliquely. Fox has not explained why it cut ties with Carlson.

    “There's no change in programming strategy at Fox News,” he said. “It's obviously a successful strategy. As always, we are adjusting our programming and our lineup and that's what we continue to do.”

    Fox and Dominion Voting Systems reached a $787 million settlement Tuesday in the voting machine company’s defamation lawsuit, averting a trial. (April 18)

    Although hurt by the Carlson exit, Fox News remains the leading cable news network.

    Fox has lost viewers following Carlson's firing. Last week's substitute host, Lawrence Jones, reached between 1.28 million and 1.7 million last week in a time slot where Carlson usually drew around 3 million, the Nielsen company said.

    Yet Fox has gained more than 40 new advertisers in that hour, the network said, confirming a report in Variety. Advertisers like Gillette, Scott's Miracle Gro and Secret deodorant that had considered Carlson's show a toxic environment have signed on.


    So the advertisers are A OK with the content they just had a problem with the talking head.  Good to know.

    ad revenue is inconsequential.  cable carriage fees is where their profit is.
    You side tracked me.  The point I was making is that any advertiser that decides to start advertising now on fox just because tucker is gone is endorsing the rest of the programming and messaging.  Which basically means they shied away from a controversial figurehead, but not the actual messaging and views of Fox News nor tucker's programming.  What changed that Gillete, Scotts, and others now feel ok being affiliated with Fox News?  Nothing really. One guy is out behind the desk, but the rage machine continues rolling down the tracks.

    heres where market forces come into play..... consumers are a market force.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,112
    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:9
    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob should have kept your mouth shut given the looming smartmatic trial....


     
    Lachlan Murdoch explains settlement, says no change at Fox
    By DAVID BAUDER
    Today

    NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News paid $787 million to settle a recent lawsuit on its reporting after the 2020 election to avoid a divisive trial and lengthy appeals process, its parent company's chief executive said on Tuesday.

    Lachlan Murdoch, executive chairman and CEO of Fox Corp., also noted that a Delaware judge “severely limited” Fox's defenses against Dominion Voting Systems, which said the network defamed it by airing bogus charges of election fraud that it knew was untrue.

    Fox Corp. announced Tuesday that it had lost $50 million the previous three months, which it attributed to the lawsuit settlement. Murdoch, who answered questions from financial analysts, was speaking in public for the first time since the case ended and Fox fired its most popular anchor, Tucker Carlson.

    Murdoch said viewers, and investors, should expect no change in direction from Fox News.

    “We made the business decision to resolve this dispute and avoid the acrimony of a divisive trial and multi-year appeal process, a decision clearly in the best interests of the company and its shareholders,” he said.

    Fox still believes it was properly exercising its First Amendment rights to report on newsworthy fraud allegations made by former President Donald Trump, even though that defense was shot down in a pre-trial court ruling in the Dominion case, Murdoch said.

    That's important, since Murdoch said Fox intends to use the same defense against a similar lawsuit by another elections technology company, Smartmatic. That case is not expected to go to trial until at least 2025, he said.

    Despite being asked directly about Carlson's exit, Murdoch didn't mention the former prime-time host's name and referred to his reign obliquely. Fox has not explained why it cut ties with Carlson.

    “There's no change in programming strategy at Fox News,” he said. “It's obviously a successful strategy. As always, we are adjusting our programming and our lineup and that's what we continue to do.”

    Fox and Dominion Voting Systems reached a $787 million settlement Tuesday in the voting machine company’s defamation lawsuit, averting a trial. (April 18)

    Although hurt by the Carlson exit, Fox News remains the leading cable news network.

    Fox has lost viewers following Carlson's firing. Last week's substitute host, Lawrence Jones, reached between 1.28 million and 1.7 million last week in a time slot where Carlson usually drew around 3 million, the Nielsen company said.

    Yet Fox has gained more than 40 new advertisers in that hour, the network said, confirming a report in Variety. Advertisers like Gillette, Scott's Miracle Gro and Secret deodorant that had considered Carlson's show a toxic environment have signed on.


    So the advertisers are A OK with the content they just had a problem with the talking head.  Good to know.

    ad revenue is inconsequential.  cable carriage fees is where their profit is.
    You side tracked me.  The point I was making is that any advertiser that decides to start advertising now on fox just because tucker is gone is endorsing the rest of the programming and messaging.  Which basically means they shied away from a controversial figurehead, but not the actual messaging and views of Fox News nor tucker's programming.  What changed that Gillete, Scotts, and others now feel ok being affiliated with Fox News?  Nothing really. One guy is out behind the desk, but the rage machine continues rolling down the tracks.

    heres where market forces come into play..... consumers are a market force.
    And they are still going to pay for their fox..unfortunately
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  • static111
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    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,597
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?

    this is a way for elon to get roi by grifting the griftable.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?
    Where are you getting 44MM?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?
    Where are you getting 44MM?
    It's up to 87 million right now. You can see it either on the app or twitter website.

    HOWEVER, I have read that Twitter considers someone merely clicking on a video for a few seconds now to count as a view. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,844
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?
    Where are you getting 44MM?
    It's up to 87 million right now. You can see it either on the app or twitter website.

    HOWEVER, I have read that Twitter considers someone merely clicking on a video for a few seconds now to count as a view. 
    I assumed that was always the case for any internet video. Was it not?
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,277
    mace1229 said:
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?
    Where are you getting 44MM?
    It's up to 87 million right now. You can see it either on the app or twitter website.

    HOWEVER, I have read that Twitter considers someone merely clicking on a video for a few seconds now to count as a view. 
    I assumed that was always the case for any internet video. Was it not?
    Almost positive that’s how it is for YouTube also. No chance you have to watch a complete video for it to count as a view. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,112
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?
    Where are you getting 44MM?
    If you click the tweet and it takes you to the page it shows "view" count.  Not surprising considering he now has a worldwide platform and can presumably start saying whatever he wants to whomever he wants.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,112
    mickeyrat said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?

    this is a way for elon to get roi by grifting the griftable.
    What does Elon have to do with it other than owning the platform.  My understanding is that anyone can start a program on twitter?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    chicken or the egg question:

    do you think people stumble upon tucker and get brainwashed, or they are already so disillusioned and crazy that they seek him out?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?
    Where are you getting 44MM?
    If you click the tweet and it takes you to the page it shows "view" count.  Not surprising considering he now has a worldwide platform and can presumably start saying whatever he wants to whomever he wants.
    Mine shows 19MM views.  

    Also, people like all of us are viewing it, where we would not put on Fox News.  So I'm not willing to jump to the conclusion that a full show will have 20, 40MM full views of 'fans'.  
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,112
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?
    Where are you getting 44MM?
    If you click the tweet and it takes you to the page it shows "view" count.  Not surprising considering he now has a worldwide platform and can presumably start saying whatever he wants to whomever he wants.
    Mine shows 19MM views.  

    Also, people like all of us are viewing it, where we would not put on Fox News.  So I'm not willing to jump to the conclusion that a full show will have 20, 40MM full views of 'fans'.  
    Weird I just clicked and it is showing 90mm
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does


    44 million views if stats are to be believed...more than fox?
    Where are you getting 44MM?
    If you click the tweet and it takes you to the page it shows "view" count.  Not surprising considering he now has a worldwide platform and can presumably start saying whatever he wants to whomever he wants.
    Mine shows 19MM views.  

    Also, people like all of us are viewing it, where we would not put on Fox News.  So I'm not willing to jump to the conclusion that a full show will have 20, 40MM full views of 'fans'.  
    Weird I just clicked and it is showing 90mm
    Up to 101 million for me. Hahaha
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    I just took this screen shot.  21mm


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Now I see the 103, but also 21. What's the difference between the two counts?


  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    The 103M is how many people saw the tweet. Even if they were just scrolling past it. The 21M is how many times the video was viewed. 
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