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  • JBob87
    JBob87 Posts: 485
    machinehum said:
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    machinehum said:
    The old priority system made sense way back, when people could only get one show and then were out of the running for others. It's a *terrible* system when you can get multiple shows, because of all the possible algorithms it's one of the most susceptible to situations where some people get six or eight shows and some people get none. I suspect that's why they tried to change it, but the new implementation has definitely encountered... issues. 
    They just used the ‘old’ system in 2020/2022 and it worked fine
    It didn't break, but if anything there were more complaints than this time about "person X got 6 shows and I got zero". "Fine" is in the eye of the beholder. 
    You’re entitled to your opinion but the majority of this board is clearly of the opinion that the most fair way is actually to have priority rankings that every single person intentionally selected be strictly enforced. If someone gets shut out in this system, it is because they picked a really popular show first and lost a dice roll. People can live with that because they at least had a chance at the show that mattered the most to them. If someone else gets 3, 4, 5 shows because they wanted to go to less popular shows and/or got super lucky, again people can at least understand that. 

    Most people seem to prefer a process that is clean and seems fair while still allowing for randomness than a system that overlooks individual priority selections in the interest of engineering a move even ticket distribution. If that is even what is happening, which we have no idea and frankly this fiasco makes me extremely skeptical of. 

    Not sure why you are continuing to swim upstream on this one which is ultimately an opinion issue but you do you.
  • machinehum
    machinehum Posts: 166
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  • JD87070
    JD87070 Grand Blanc, MI Posts: 308
    chiefnjk said:
    Message just received from TM:

    "Thank you for reaching out and we understand you're asking about your ticket request. I apologize as the ticket requests are still being processed. This process is initially taking longer than expected. Please allow us another 48 hours to provide you with an update to your request."

    No way this is all getting sorted by today. 
    If they’re saying 48 hours from now, that goes after  Verified Fan on sale time. Hopefully they can sort it out before that happens, or that’s really bad if people try for those and then end up getting confirmed for 10C tickets after that.
  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    Jbabbington said:
    In regards to if unfulfilled means your out. Expect more confirmations it seems
    Great.  We sweat until midnight.
    http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=28
  • JBob87
    JBob87 Posts: 485
    Ryan_WFC said:
    I just got notified of Chicago N1 reserved tickets, in the area I would have expected with my seniority. 12:56p eastern

    Had chosen just GA/reserved, and earlier today my order page said "unfulfilled."
    Well that’s encouraging!
  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    mattcoz said:
    machinehum said:
    euchrid said:
    LaFleur said:
    cblock4life said:
    Jbabbington said:

    So if I'm reading this correctly, no one beyond priority 1 should have gotten seats until all 1s were fulfilled, or the allotment was exhausted. 

    Yeah, seems like someone made a boo-boo.
    But I think your name has to be pulled first so yes someone with a priority 2 could win over a 1 because 1’s name never got pulled.  Does this make sense? 
    It does not.  Name can't be pulled if isn't in the hat.  (where did that text above on show priority come from?)
    From 2020 tour info page but this process for how priority works has always been like this so should still hold true.

    https://help.pearljam.com/hc/en-us/articles/205143590-Pre-sale-Drawing


    This has been explicitly superseded. The text for this process from https://blog.ticketmaster.com/pearl-jam-tour-2023 is:

    I know people don't read stuff, but at the end of the day, it was there and folks can't blame anyone else if they didn't read the announcement details. That said, it's obviously and intentionally vague, meaningless weasel words. People should have expected that it wouldn't work the same as it used to, but nobody had/has any idea how it is in fact meant to work now. 
    That text accurately describes how it has worked in the past though, so it's not saying there's a change.
    I read that bit at time and presumed same. When they made big changes in previous years they would make it more clear than what happened this time.
  • machinehum
    machinehum Posts: 166
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  • Ryan_WFC
    Ryan_WFC Posts: 1,353
    edited April 2023
    machinehum said:
    Ryan_WFC said:
    I just got notified of Chicago N1 reserved tickets, in the area I would have expected with my seniority. 12:56p eastern

    Had chosen just GA/reserved, and earlier today my order page said "unfulfilled."
    Hey, congrats! One is an anecdote, but a few more of those and it definitely starts to lend credence to the theory that in some manner or another, "GA/Reserved" entries didn't cascade into Reserved as expected. 
    No, I do think that happened, and that they are making changes today. Or perhaps that the GA/reserved-only draw didn't happen until now.

    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
    there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,528
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    rlaidepeas said:
    I'm seeing some cranky posters in this thread - that's how I get when i'm hangry - might want to take a break and grab a sandwich perhaps?  
    This.

    You really have almost an endless assortment of sandwiches to choose from, as well.  Anything from a grilled cheese sandwich to hell, even a cheeseburger could fit the description.  Meats, Veggies, Vegan, Pescatarian, gluten free, diet be damned.  There's a sandwich for you out there.  Go and find it.
    Currently consuming a grilled cheese with salami and kraut. 
  • Doug87
    Doug87 Posts: 442
    Ryan_WFC said:
    machinehum said:
    Ryan_WFC said:
    I just got notified of Chicago N1 reserved tickets, in the area I would have expected with my seniority. 12:56p eastern

    Had chosen just GA/reserved, and earlier today my order page said "unfulfilled."
    Hey, congrats! One is an anecdote, but a few more of those and it definitely starts to lend credence to the theory that in some manner or another, "GA/Reserved" entries didn't cascade into Reserved as expected. 
    No, I do think that happened, and that they are making changes today. Or perhaps that the GA/reserved-only draw didn't happen until now.

    1st priority?

    Have any other requests as in did you get both Chicagos?
  • Father Hubbard
    Father Hubbard Chicago Posts: 1,669
    Chicago 1 was first priority, just got notified of new ticket location, which is worse.  So maybe there are a significant number of tickets going out to people who were originally unfulfilled.
  • TheKricket
    TheKricket Chicago Posts: 115
    Just got my reassignment for Chicago N1 - From Sec 3 Row 1 to Section 2 Row 6.

    115xxx

    Woof.
    1995.07.09 - 1995.07.11 - 1998.06.27 - 1998.06.29 - 2000.10.08 - 2000.10.09 - 2003.06.18 - 2003.06.21 - 2006.05.16 - 2006.05.17 - 2006.06.30 - 2007.08.05 - 2008.08.21 (ev solo) - 2009.08.24 - 2011.06.28 (ev solo) - 2011.09.03 - 2013.07.19 - 2016.08.22 - 2018.08.18 - 2022.02.09 (ev w/ earthlings) - 2023.09.05
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Ryan_WFC said:
    I just got notified of Chicago N1 reserved tickets, in the area I would have expected with my seniority. 12:56p eastern

    Had chosen just GA/reserved, and earlier today my order page said "unfulfilled."
    This is pretty big! 
  • Doug87
    Doug87 Posts: 442
    Father Hubbard said:
    Chicago 1 was first priority, just got notified of new ticket location, which is worse.  So maybe there are a significant number of tickets going out to people who were originally unfulfilled.
    Sorry that happened.

    Thank you though for sharing (sincerely)
  • Kscott1074
    Kscott1074 Posts: 14
    Ryan_WFC said:
    I just got notified of Chicago N1 reserved tickets, in the area I would have expected with my seniority. 12:56p eastern

    Had chosen just GA/reserved, and earlier today my order page said "unfulfilled."
    Interesting
  • Ryan_WFC
    Ryan_WFC Posts: 1,353
    Doug87 said:
    Ryan_WFC said:
    machinehum said:
    Ryan_WFC said:
    I just got notified of Chicago N1 reserved tickets, in the area I would have expected with my seniority. 12:56p eastern

    Had chosen just GA/reserved, and earlier today my order page said "unfulfilled."
    Hey, congrats! One is an anecdote, but a few more of those and it definitely starts to lend credence to the theory that in some manner or another, "GA/Reserved" entries didn't cascade into Reserved as expected. 
    No, I do think that happened, and that they are making changes today. Or perhaps that the GA/reserved-only draw didn't happen until now.

    1st priority?

    Have any other requests as in did you get both Chicagos?

    Second priority. Have not heard anything about my first priority (Chicago 2).

    As of this morning I had the "completed/unfulfilled" status for both.
    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
    there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
  • inhiding 1976
    inhiding 1976 NWI Posts: 580
    Okay, I think Friday, Saturday and Sunday shows at Alpine Valley is in order.  Only the members that got bent over are eligible to purchase.  Back in the day when you could only send in money orders for tickets was more efficient and better than this.

    7-11-95, 6-14-98, 6-26-98, 6-27-98, 6-29-98, 8-17-98, 08-18-00, 8-20-00, 09-05-00, 10-7-00, 10-8-00, 10-9-00, 10-11-00, 4-21-03, 4-22-03, 4-23-03, 4-25-03, 04-26-03, 6-18-03, 6-21-03, 6-22-03, 6-25-03, 06-26-03, 10-3-04, 9-11-05, 9-12-05, 9-13-05, 5-9-06, 5-10-06, 5-16-06, 5-17-06, 5-19-06, 5-20-06, 6-23-06, 6-24-06, 6-29-06, 8-5-07, E.V. Milwaukee and Chicago night 1, 8-23-09,08-24-09, 5-7-10, 5-9-10, E.V. 6-28-011, 9-3-11, 9-4-11, 7-19-13, 10-11-13, 10-3-14, 10-17-14, 10-20-14, E.V. 04-26-16, 08-20-16, 08-22-16, 8-20-18, 8-22-18, 9-16-22, 9-18-22, 9-5-23, 9-7-23, 9-10-23
  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    machinehum said:
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    machinehum said:
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    machinehum said:
    The old priority system made sense way back, when people could only get one show and then were out of the running for others. It's a *terrible* system when you can get multiple shows, because of all the possible algorithms it's one of the most susceptible to situations where some people get six or eight shows and some people get none. I suspect that's why they tried to change it, but the new implementation has definitely encountered... issues. 
    They just used the ‘old’ system in 2020/2022 and it worked fine
    It didn't break, but if anything there were more complaints than this time about "person X got 6 shows and I got zero". "Fine" is in the eye of the beholder. 
    Wrong again
    Okey dokey, internet stranger. There have been at least a dozen people saying exactly that about 2022 in this very thread, much less the threads from the time, but keep making random assertions with no evidence contrary to what's right in front of us. Enjoy.  B)
    I have seen no one say this about 2020 or 2022
  • JB23237
    JB23237 Posts: 1,381
    Got em
    Alpine Valley East Troy WI 1998...United Center Chicago IL1998...All State Arena Rosemont IL 2000 (anybody have a spare poster)
    United Center Chicago IL 2003...Alpine Valley East Troy WI 2003...Toledo OH 2004...Marcus Amphitheater Milwaukee WI 2006
    United Center Chicago IL Nite 1 2008...United Center Chicago IL Nite 2 2008...United Center Chicago IL Nite 1 2009
    PJ20 East Troy WI Nite 1 2011...PJ20 East Troy WI Nite 2 2011...Wrigley Field Chicago IL 2013...iWireless Center Moline IL 2014
    Bradley Center Milwaukee WI 2014...EV Auditorium Theatre Chicago IL Nite 1 2008...EV Chicago Theatre Chicago IL Nite 1 2011
    EV w/ PT celebrating the Who Rosemont Theatre Rosemont IL 2015
  • Doug87
    Doug87 Posts: 442
    edited April 2023
    JB23237 said:
    Got em
    Any specifics?

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