Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,412
    solace said:
    Go Animal said:
    solace said:
    Go Animal said:

    If I can't go to St. Paul N1 (or if I find a better single for either night, as I'm going solo), and you get shut out of Verified Fan, I'll let you know & we'll set up a F2F drop.
    Awesome, thank you!!! That’s very kind.

    My hope was to at least get one night via 10c and then only have to deal with trying for tickets via Verified for one show at 10am on Friday. The 10% premium thing has me a little uneasy about how much decent location seats are gonna be on Friday too.

    My advice would be to buy whatever you can on 04/28 at face value , and anything that comes up as PJ premium? just watch it all summer.

    There will be excellent PJ Premium seats for anywhere between $400 - $2,000 in St. Paul. It will not stay that way.

    As we get closer to each show day, those tickets will drop down gradually to regular price by about 4-5pm each day of show. Like clock work. 

    No matter how enticing or how good the seat, just hold fast & don't pay Premium/Platinum. Trust me :)
    Great tips. I’m confident I will be able to see both shows somehow, today was just still a bummer for  myself and far too many local 10c friends I know personally. 

    Figure there’s always the production holds too, that’s how I scored a nice face value ticket for Bruce here in March the week of.
    I scored Bruce/E Street in Orlando for face value in the Club level 3 days before the show. Slow & steady😎
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Manu117 said:
    PJNB said:
    Manu117 said:
    The way I see it, this is how the 10C ticket lottery works: 

    1) lottery is done on a show-by-show basis
    2) anyone who put in for GA for show #1 is randomly selected from the pool
    3) priority increases your chance of being selected (maybe a 1.1 to 2x multiplier, but who knows; either way, while it increases your chances it doesn't guarantee anything)
    4) rinse and repeat for shows #2-9
    5) rinse and repeat for reserved seating for shows #1-9

    Does that make sense? 

    This process would be a simple way to run the lottery on a show-by-show basis, and would explain how some people might get multiple shows, while others get none, regardless of priority.

    Just my 0.2 cents. 
    #3 makes zero sense and you are really just making that up though on nothing. 

    The next part is not directed at anyone in particular 


    If this was all true. If priority does not really matter like we are saying it is then why are we not seeing any 3rd/4th/5th/9th priorities winning GA? Its not happening. 

    Its not happening because when they draw GA they start with, now wait for it, first priorities!!!! Say it with me... First Priorities!!! 

    Same goes for reserved. Every lotto I have done this is how they did it. We have people here that go over this stuff with a fine tooth comb. We over analyze this stuff we scrutinize it. Years and years of this. When something is off we know its off and this lotto is very much off. 


    I am making it up, it's just what makes sense and how I imagine a computer would run this. 

    That said, I think some people got GA for multiple shows, which indicates priority isn't as important is it's made out to be. Maybe the multiplier is higher, or there are so few GA tickets that it's just hard to get a good indication. In any case, I'm not sure how else you could explain how 1st and 2nd priorities might end up with nothing. 
    Please point out these people. I think maybe one or two shows did not fill on first priorities and actually made it to the second. Thats normal for shows that are not in demand 

    99% of GA wins are first priority. It debunks all claims that priority does not mean what we think it means. 
  • IlliniGuy76
    IlliniGuy76 Posts: 683
    CopperTom said:
    Is it accurate that the results thus far have not included upper deck seat locations?

    Hope.  Maybe not dead yet.
    This is what I’m hoping for Chicago night 1 and 2 - I’m in the upper tank and those tix haven’t been handed out yet 
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense...

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    2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022:  9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023:  9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024:  8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)

  • iwasatpj20
    iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,474
    Go Animal said:
    solace said:
    Go Animal said:
    solace said:
    Go Animal said:

    If I can't go to St. Paul N1 (or if I find a better single for either night, as I'm going solo), and you get shut out of Verified Fan, I'll let you know & we'll set up a F2F drop.
    Awesome, thank you!!! That’s very kind.

    My hope was to at least get one night via 10c and then only have to deal with trying for tickets via Verified for one show at 10am on Friday. The 10% premium thing has me a little uneasy about how much decent location seats are gonna be on Friday too.

    My advice would be to buy whatever you can on 04/28 at face value , and anything that comes up as PJ premium? just watch it all summer.

    There will be excellent PJ Premium seats for anywhere between $400 - $2,000 in St. Paul. It will not stay that way.

    As we get closer to each show day, those tickets will drop down gradually to regular price by about 4-5pm each day of show. Like clock work. 

    No matter how enticing or how good the seat, just hold fast & don't pay Premium/Platinum. Trust me :)
    Great tips. I’m confident I will be able to see both shows somehow, today was just still a bummer for  myself and far too many local 10c friends I know personally. 

    Figure there’s always the production holds too, that’s how I scored a nice face value ticket for Bruce here in March the week of.
    I scored Bruce/E Street in Orlando for face value in the Club level 3 days before the show. Slow & steady😎
    Patience is always good
    2000 - Chicago, IL
    2003 - Champaign, IL
    2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
    2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
    2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
    2010 - St. Louis, MO
    2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
    2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
    2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
    2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
    2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
    2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)
    2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ??
    2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
    2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
    2024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
    2025 - Pittsburgh, PA1 & Pittsburgh PA2


    2012 - Temple of the Dog East Troy, WI (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
    2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
    2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA
    2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)
    2016 - Temple of the Dog San Francisco, CA (both shows)
    2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
    2018 - Smashing Pumpkins Chicago, IL (first show)
    2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI
    2022 - Jerry Cantrell Chicago, IL
    2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI

    RIP Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and Chris Cornell

    RIP Mom (may your star shine the brightest in the sky, our family loves and misses you very much, we'll meet again)

  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,348
    I admit: I'm confused!!
  • thefixer420
    thefixer420 Toronto, ON Posts: 54
    edited April 2023
    machinehum said:
    As someone else already said, brokers only have a fraction of the tickets they advertise. They’re know if they can’t procure it after you order, they can just cancel the order. What is showing up on those sites says NOTHING about anything that happened with 10C ticket purchasing. 
    I assure you...you're wrong. Brokers that bust orders pay 200% penalty for doing so.
    Post edited by thefixer420 on
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  • machinehum
    machinehum Posts: 166
    edited April 2023
     
    Post edited by machinehum on
  • go pre
    go pre Posts: 671
    i only entered for st. paul 2 ga, and i have not heard anything yet. what's the deal?
    There's a trapdoor in the sun.
  • Cob
    Cob Posts: 858
    mace1229 said:
    Since everyone was getting actual seats with their confirmation, seems unlikely to me that seniority played a role in seat location this time.
    Theyd have to confirm all winners first, then organize by member number before assigning seats. They didn’t do that all at once.
     Not true, my number is .+/-  309,000 I got Sec 115 Austin night 1 and G/A Pit Austin night 2, people in here posted their number was +/-500,000 and they got 200's both nights for Austin.
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  • Kevinman
    Kevinman Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 1,923
    DragonsAfter3or4 said:
    Kevinman said:
    If Indy was 1st priority and you selected all seat options I think you have a really good chance of getting tix.
    just my thought, not a fact.
    I did and got NOTHING!
    It’s not over yet
    I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side

    06.27.98  Alpine Valley
    10.08.00  Alpine Valley
    09.23.02  Chicago
    06.18.03  Chicago | 06.21.03  Alpine Valley
    10.03.04  Grand Rapids
    10.05.05  Chicago
    05.16.06  Chicago | 05.17.06  Chicago | 06.29.06  Milwaukee
    08.02.07  Chicago | 08.05.07  Chicago
    08.23.09  Chicago | 08.24.09  Chicago
    05.07.10  Noblesville | 05.09.10  Cleveland
    09.03.11  Alpine Valley | 09.04.11  Alpine Valley
    07.19.13  Chicago
    10.17.14  Moline
    08.20.16  Chicago
    08.18.18  Chicago
    09.18.22  St. Louis
    09.05.23 Chicago
  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,150
    Doug87 said:
    CopperTom said:
    Is it accurate that the results thus far have not included upper deck seat locations?

    Hope.  Maybe not dead yet.
    Nope and not a ton in the 200 level either.

    some but perhaps not all.
    I'll breathe a sigh of relief for the night.  I'm mildly disgusted over the process this time.  I don't mind if I lose based on supply and demand.  But based on "process error?" C'mon.  
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  • JR86440
    JR86440 Posts: 754
    fixer123 said:
    thefixer420 said:


    Anyone need Saturday Saint Paul tickets?

    Brokers owned this on sale.
    Unreal
    Prices are always high when first listed. Makes sense, throw some crazy price up there and wait for some dude with no patience and devastated. Sucker born every minute. Prices won’t be that high come August
  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,150
    JR86440 said:
    fixer123 said:
    thefixer420 said:


    Anyone need Saturday Saint Paul tickets?

    Brokers owned this on sale.
    Unreal
    Prices are always high when first listed. Makes sense, throw some crazy price up there and wait for some dude with no patience and devastated. Sucker born every minute. Prices won’t be that high come August
    They have no way to transfer these anyway, right?
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  • Manu117
    Manu117 Burlington VT Posts: 117
    edited April 2023
    PJNB said:
    Manu117 said:
    PJNB said:
    Manu117 said:
    The way I see it, this is how the 10C ticket lottery works: 

    1) lottery is done on a show-by-show basis
    2) anyone who put in for GA for show #1 is randomly selected from the pool
    3) priority increases your chance of being selected (maybe a 1.1 to 2x multiplier, but who knows; either way, while it increases your chances it doesn't guarantee anything)
    4) rinse and repeat for shows #2-9
    5) rinse and repeat for reserved seating for shows #1-9

    Does that make sense? 

    This process would be a simple way to run the lottery on a show-by-show basis, and would explain how some people might get multiple shows, while others get none, regardless of priority.

    Just my 0.2 cents. 
    #3 makes zero sense and you are really just making that up though on nothing. 

    The next part is not directed at anyone in particular 


    If this was all true. If priority does not really matter like we are saying it is then why are we not seeing any 3rd/4th/5th/9th priorities winning GA? Its not happening. 

    Its not happening because when they draw GA they start with, now wait for it, first priorities!!!! Say it with me... First Priorities!!! 

    Same goes for reserved. Every lotto I have done this is how they did it. We have people here that go over this stuff with a fine tooth comb. We over analyze this stuff we scrutinize it. Years and years of this. When something is off we know its off and this lotto is very much off. 


    I am making it up, it's just what makes sense and how I imagine a computer would run this. 

    That said, I think some people got GA for multiple shows, which indicates priority isn't as important is it's made out to be. Maybe the multiplier is higher, or there are so few GA tickets that it's just hard to get a good indication. In any case, I'm not sure how else you could explain how 1st and 2nd priorities might end up with nothing. 
    Please point out these people. I think maybe one or two shows did not fill on first priorities and actually made it to the second. Thats normal for shows that are not in demand 

    99% of GA wins are first priority. It debunks all claims that priority does not mean what we think it means. 
    But we also have people who have gotten nothing, which also debunks claims that priority matters (unless it only applies to GA).

    Edit: it's possible that there are just so many priority requests and so few GA tickets available for each show that statistically most of them end up in the hands of priority requesters.
    Post edited by Manu117 on
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,068
    Cob said:
    mace1229 said:
    Since everyone was getting actual seats with their confirmation, seems unlikely to me that seniority played a role in seat location this time.
    Theyd have to confirm all winners first, then organize by member number before assigning seats. They didn’t do that all at once.
     Not true, my number is .+/-  309,000 I got Sec 115 Austin night 1 and G/A Pit Austin night 2, people in here posted their number was +/-500,000 and they got 200's both nights for Austin.
    But there’s also plenty of posts where higher numbers got the same level as low numbers. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,068
    How are tickets already on the secondary market? Can’t be fanclub because they are non transferrable, except chicago.
  • thefixer420
    thefixer420 Toronto, ON Posts: 54
    CopperTom said:
    JR86440 said:
    fixer123 said:
    thefixer420 said:


    Anyone need Saturday Saint Paul tickets?

    Brokers owned this on sale.
    Unreal
    Prices are always high when first listed. Makes sense, throw some crazy price up there and wait for some dude with no patience and devastated. Sucker born every minute. Prices won’t be that high come August
    They have no way to transfer these anyway, right?
    Yes...it's called Wallet Transfer. You get a download link that puts the ticket in your Apple wallet...no need to transfer.
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  • PJammin
    PJammin Posts: 606
    Has anyone received an Indy confirm as a 2nd or 3rd option? Wife apparently had Indy as her #1 option and hasn't heard/seen anything at all. Chicago 1 and Chicago 2 were her 2nd and 3rd choices (nothing on those either). 
  • MYM
    MYM Austin, TX Posts: 206
    CopperTom said:
    Is it accurate that the results thus far have not included upper deck seat locations?

    Hope.  Maybe not dead yet.
    my Austin (both 1 and 2) are 200 level seats
    Fenway 1 - 8/5/16
    Fenway 2 - 8/7/16
    Seattle 1 - 8/8/18
  • Eddieredder
    Eddieredder Posts: 753
    thefixer420 said:
    CopperTom said:
    JR86440 said:
    fixer123 said:
    thefixer420 said:


    Anyone need Saturday Saint Paul tickets?

    Brokers owned this on sale.
    Unreal
    Prices are always high when first listed. Makes sense, throw some crazy price up there and wait for some dude with no patience and devastated. Sucker born every minute. Prices won’t be that high come August
    They have no way to transfer these anyway, right?
    Yes...it's called Wallet Transfer. You get a download link that puts the ticket in your Apple wallet...no need to transfer.
    Yep. Techie hacker folks always can find a way. 

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