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  • Poncier
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    mickeyrat said:
    Wobbie said:
    I generally stay away from AMT, but GODDAM!!!!…these motherfuckers all want to paint the attack on pelosi’s 82 yo husband as evidence of biden’s “failure on crime.” let’s conveniently forget to mention the right’s violent rhetoric and the suspect’s beliefs that the 2020 election was stolen, COVID is a hoax, the deep state is real, etc, etc…..all the shit that FOX and his far right websites fed him. these fuckers at FOX have absolutely no decency.

    unfortunately, my 75 yo MIL is, like so many others, too stupid to know any better. FOX feeds her lies, day after day.

    wait. your MiL is younger than you?
    I assume he meant 75 YO daughter in law
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    If you watch Faux, I’ve got a bridge to sell you along with some POOTWH 2024 signs.

    A Twitter video doesn’t show the balloon exploding, but Fox aired it anyway


    The governor of Montana was telling Tucker Carlson about an alleged Chinese spy balloon that wafted over his state this week, complaining that the federal government wouldn’t let him shoot it down, when the host cut in with an alarming update.

    “Governor, I hate to pull random video off the internet and ask you to respond to it, but this is going around,” Carlson said Friday evening, as Twitter footage of a bright flash in the clouds over Billings, Mont., played on the Fox News split-screen. “It appears to be some social media video of an explosion over your state, showing what looks like a smoke trail in to the sky.”

    Gov. Greg Gianforte (R) seemed a little caught off-guard. “I was notified just minutes before we came on the air,” he said. “We’re monitoring the situation. I’m talking to the National Guard.

    He needn’t have bothered them. Within two hours of Billings resident Dolly Moore’s viral report on Twitter — “I saw a jet go by so fast and then explosion in the sky. Holy crap!,” she wrote below her video — the city and the National Weather Service had debunked it. Whether the balloon is a weather sensor gone astray or a surveillance device for the Chinese government, it was still drifting peacefully 60,000 feet above the Earth. It wouldn’t fall until the following afternoon, when a U.S. military aircraft shot it down over the Atlantic coast.

    But those facts did little to dissuade the tide of misinformation and speculation that followed in the balloon’s path — or the horde of journalists thirsty for any footage of the mysterious device over the weekend, many of whom asked Moore for permission to put her video on the news, and only later determined it had no business being there.

    The media, and seemingly the entire country, had spent a full day tracking the balloon, which the U.S. government says is a spy device sent from China, by 7 p.m. Eastern time on Friday, when Moore tweeted “what I just caught [a] few minutes ago out my window” in Billings and sparked a brand new frenzy.

    Journalists representing Fox News, CNN, the New York Times, broadcast networks and myriad local stations slid into her replies, asking for permission to use her video in the same legalistic language with which reporters typically beg for amateur footage of natural disasters and wars.

    “My son finally had to take my phone,” Moore told Billings’s KULR-TV in an interview that aired Friday.

    By then, many of the journalists who had rushed to her video were having second thoughts.

    The Washington Post called the National Weather Service on Friday night, and was told by meteorologist Shawn Palmquist that the agency had not received any reports of explosions or plane crashes near Billings. “We think it’s a contrail from a jet,” he said of the so-called smoke trail in Moore’s video. “I couldn’t speculate on anything further than that.”

    Kerem Inal, an ABC News visual verification producer who had asked Moore for permission to use the footage less than 30 minutes after it was tweeted, posted a Twitter thread early Saturday morning explaining why his network backed off.

    “Although I don’t think the video was fake, without the necessary information to verify what we were seeing, our advice was to not use the video,” Inal wrote, explaining that the balloon was more than 900 miles from Moore’s location at the time she took the footage. “It falls on us, journalists, to make sure all the pieces of the puzzle fit, before amplifying information,” he added.

    The Post could find no indication that CNN, the Times or other major outlets that Moore gave permission to use her video ultimately did so. But Fox aired it twice.

    “MASSIVE EXPLOSION OVER MONTANA” ran across the bottom of the screen at one point Friday evening, as host Jesse Watters ran Moore’s video and exclaimed, “Wow.” At almost the same time Tucker Carlson was asking Gianforte about the video on his own show, a Fox News producer was trying to set the record straight, tweeting that military officials had told a network correspondent that “videos purporting to show the balloon exploding are not real.”

    Shortly after 9 p.m., the city of Billings announced on Twitter that Gianforte and Montana’s disaster and emergency services office confirmed there had been no explosions in the state. “They are aware of the video and it cannot be substantiated,” the city wrote.

    It took many hours, however, for those denials to make it into an online article in the Daily Mail that managed to embellish on Moore’s tweets. Multiple “witnesses” had seen the “explosion in the sky,” the tabloid wrote (though none besides Moore were cited). “Mysterious video of the aftermath shows a trail of smoke in the sky where the balloon was last spotted.” The Daily Mail did not immediately respond to a request for comment Saturday afternoon, but the article was updated shortly afterward, removing some erroneous language and adding that authorities “confirmed the video is a hoax.”

    Predictably, a stew of conspiracy theories bubbled up in reader comments beneath the article, and across the internet. Some thought the Chinese government had paid President Biden to not disturb the balloon. Others thought he was about to shoot it down and trigger nuclear war. Some said the balloon was carrying a deadly virus. Others said there was no balloon at all.

    Nadine Ajaka, The Post’s executive producer of visual forensics, said authenticating amateur videos typically begins with verifying the source’s identity and requesting the original file, which can include metadata that proves when and where the video was filmed. But if the original source isn’t responsive, video forensics analysts have other methods of geolocating a video.

    “We’ll look at identifying landmarks or other details in the image, and cross-reference it with other tools like Google Earth,” Ajaka said. “Or if there are several videos of the same incident, we’ll be able to place that video in time and space.”

    Like most of its competitors, The Post elected not to report on Moore’s video Friday evening.

    Asked whether Fox News planned to run corrections on its segments, a network spokesperson declined to answer.

    But some 18 hours after those segments ran, on Saturday afternoon, Fox carried live footage of the balloon going down over the South Carolina coast, shot out of the sky on the president’s orders. This time the footage wasn’t in dispute.

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  • josevolution
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    If you watch Faux, I’ve got a bridge to sell you along with some POOTWH 2024 signs.

    A Twitter video doesn’t show the balloon exploding, but Fox aired it anyway


    The governor of Montana was telling Tucker Carlson about an alleged Chinese spy balloon that wafted over his state this week, complaining that the federal government wouldn’t let him shoot it down, when the host cut in with an alarming update.

    “Governor, I hate to pull random video off the internet and ask you to respond to it, but this is going around,” Carlson said Friday evening, as Twitter footage of a bright flash in the clouds over Billings, Mont., played on the Fox News split-screen. “It appears to be some social media video of an explosion over your state, showing what looks like a smoke trail in to the sky.”

    Gov. Greg Gianforte (R) seemed a little caught off-guard. “I was notified just minutes before we came on the air,” he said. “We’re monitoring the situation. I’m talking to the National Guard.

    He needn’t have bothered them. Within two hours of Billings resident Dolly Moore’s viral report on Twitter — “I saw a jet go by so fast and then explosion in the sky. Holy crap!,” she wrote below her video — the city and the National Weather Service had debunked it. Whether the balloon is a weather sensor gone astray or a surveillance device for the Chinese government, it was still drifting peacefully 60,000 feet above the Earth. It wouldn’t fall until the following afternoon, when a U.S. military aircraft shot it down over the Atlantic coast.

    But those facts did little to dissuade the tide of misinformation and speculation that followed in the balloon’s path — or the horde of journalists thirsty for any footage of the mysterious device over the weekend, many of whom asked Moore for permission to put her video on the news, and only later determined it had no business being there.

    The media, and seemingly the entire country, had spent a full day tracking the balloon, which the U.S. government says is a spy device sent from China, by 7 p.m. Eastern time on Friday, when Moore tweeted “what I just caught [a] few minutes ago out my window” in Billings and sparked a brand new frenzy.

    Journalists representing Fox News, CNN, the New York Times, broadcast networks and myriad local stations slid into her replies, asking for permission to use her video in the same legalistic language with which reporters typically beg for amateur footage of natural disasters and wars.

    “My son finally had to take my phone,” Moore told Billings’s KULR-TV in an interview that aired Friday.

    By then, many of the journalists who had rushed to her video were having second thoughts.

    The Washington Post called the National Weather Service on Friday night, and was told by meteorologist Shawn Palmquist that the agency had not received any reports of explosions or plane crashes near Billings. “We think it’s a contrail from a jet,” he said of the so-called smoke trail in Moore’s video. “I couldn’t speculate on anything further than that.”

    Kerem Inal, an ABC News visual verification producer who had asked Moore for permission to use the footage less than 30 minutes after it was tweeted, posted a Twitter thread early Saturday morning explaining why his network backed off.

    “Although I don’t think the video was fake, without the necessary information to verify what we were seeing, our advice was to not use the video,” Inal wrote, explaining that the balloon was more than 900 miles from Moore’s location at the time she took the footage. “It falls on us, journalists, to make sure all the pieces of the puzzle fit, before amplifying information,” he added.

    The Post could find no indication that CNN, the Times or other major outlets that Moore gave permission to use her video ultimately did so. But Fox aired it twice.

    “MASSIVE EXPLOSION OVER MONTANA” ran across the bottom of the screen at one point Friday evening, as host Jesse Watters ran Moore’s video and exclaimed, “Wow.” At almost the same time Tucker Carlson was asking Gianforte about the video on his own show, a Fox News producer was trying to set the record straight, tweeting that military officials had told a network correspondent that “videos purporting to show the balloon exploding are not real.”

    Shortly after 9 p.m., the city of Billings announced on Twitter that Gianforte and Montana’s disaster and emergency services office confirmed there had been no explosions in the state. “They are aware of the video and it cannot be substantiated,” the city wrote.

    It took many hours, however, for those denials to make it into an online article in the Daily Mail that managed to embellish on Moore’s tweets. Multiple “witnesses” had seen the “explosion in the sky,” the tabloid wrote (though none besides Moore were cited). “Mysterious video of the aftermath shows a trail of smoke in the sky where the balloon was last spotted.” The Daily Mail did not immediately respond to a request for comment Saturday afternoon, but the article was updated shortly afterward, removing some erroneous language and adding that authorities “confirmed the video is a hoax.”

    Predictably, a stew of conspiracy theories bubbled up in reader comments beneath the article, and across the internet. Some thought the Chinese government had paid President Biden to not disturb the balloon. Others thought he was about to shoot it down and trigger nuclear war. Some said the balloon was carrying a deadly virus. Others said there was no balloon at all.

    Nadine Ajaka, The Post’s executive producer of visual forensics, said authenticating amateur videos typically begins with verifying the source’s identity and requesting the original file, which can include metadata that proves when and where the video was filmed. But if the original source isn’t responsive, video forensics analysts have other methods of geolocating a video.

    “We’ll look at identifying landmarks or other details in the image, and cross-reference it with other tools like Google Earth,” Ajaka said. “Or if there are several videos of the same incident, we’ll be able to place that video in time and space.”

    Like most of its competitors, The Post elected not to report on Moore’s video Friday evening.

    Asked whether Fox News planned to run corrections on its segments, a network spokesperson declined to answer.

    But some 18 hours after those segments ran, on Saturday afternoon, Fox carried live footage of the balloon going down over the South Carolina coast, shot out of the sky on the president’s orders. This time the footage wasn’t in dispute.

    I can’t wait for China to send over a floating Jesus so faux can claim the end of times have arrived 😂😂 faux audience is so easily duped.
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,847
    Pulling a random video from the internet and asking an official to comment is poor journalism. But I don’t see the connection with the balloon.
    I watched that Tucker clip posted, they point out immediately before and after showing the video that the balloon is near Kansas City, so clearly they weren’t trying to suggest this is video of it being shot down in Montana. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mace1229 said:
    Pulling a random video from the internet and asking an official to comment is poor journalism. But I don’t see the connection with the balloon.
    I watched that Tucker clip posted, they point out immediately before and after showing the video that the balloon is near Kansas City, so clearly they weren’t trying to suggest this is video of it being shot down in Montana. 
    If it’s not connected to the balloon, which you admittedly don’t see, what is the faux News random internet video footage connected to?
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  • mace1229
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Pulling a random video from the internet and asking an official to comment is poor journalism. But I don’t see the connection with the balloon.
    I watched that Tucker clip posted, they point out immediately before and after showing the video that the balloon is near Kansas City, so clearly they weren’t trying to suggest this is video of it being shot down in Montana. 
    If it’s not connected to the balloon, which you admittedly don’t see, what is the faux News random internet video footage connected to?
    It was supposedly from Montana. He was interviewing the governor of Montana. He asked him if he knew anything about the video. 
    Clif Notes version:
    Tucker: Spy balloon is now in Kansas City. Why didn’t they shoot it down in Montana?
    Gov: I don’t know, if it was up to me we would have.
    Tucker: Here’s a random internet video. Can you comment?
    Gov: No, I just learned about that video 2 minutes ago
    Tucker: OK. Ballon is in Missouri. We should have shot it down when we had the chance in nowhere America.

    Others: Tucker just said they shot the balloon down in Montana!

    Im not getting that.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,442
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Pulling a random video from the internet and asking an official to comment is poor journalism. But I don’t see the connection with the balloon.
    I watched that Tucker clip posted, they point out immediately before and after showing the video that the balloon is near Kansas City, so clearly they weren’t trying to suggest this is video of it being shot down in Montana. 
    If it’s not connected to the balloon, which you admittedly don’t see, what is the faux News random internet video footage connected to?
    It was supposedly from Montana. He was interviewing the governor of Montana. He asked him if he knew anything about the video. 
    Clif Notes version:
    Tucker: Spy balloon is now in Kansas City. Why didn’t they shoot it down in Montana?
    Gov: I don’t know, if it was up to me we would have.
    Tucker: Here’s a random internet video. Can you comment?
    Gov: No, I just learned about that video 2 minutes ago
    Tucker: OK. Ballon is in Missouri. We should have shot it down when we had the chance in nowhere America.

    Others: Tucker just said they shot the balloon down in Montana!

    Im not getting that.
    Please link to your fucker Carlson “source.” As reported in WaPo regarding Faux News (pay particular attention to the quotation marks):

    The governor of Montana was telling Tucker Carlson about an alleged Chinese spy balloon that wafted over his state this week, complaining that the federal government wouldn’t let him shoot it down, when the host cut in with an alarming update.

    “Governor, I hate to pull random video off the internet and ask you to respond to it, but this is going around,” Carlson said Friday evening, as Twitter footage of a bright flash in the clouds over Billings, Mont., played on the Fox News split-screen. “It appears to be some social media video of an explosion over your state, showing what looks like a smoke trail in to the sky.”

    Gov. Greg Gianforte (R) seemed a little caught off-guard. “I was notified just minutes before we came on the air,” he said. “We’re monitoring the situation. I’m talking to the National Guard.

    Do you think the gubner of Montana should have shot it down with NG pilots or Brandon, as CIC, overriding his military?



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    now where did I put that Nelson meme....


     
    Court nixes Fox News' bid to end voting tech firm's suit
    By JENNIFER PELTZ
    30 mins ago

    NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News lost an attempt Tuesday to shut down a multibillion-dollar defamation lawsuit that accuses the network of spreading lies that a voting-technology company helped “steal” the 2020 election from then-U.S. President Donald Trump.

    New York's Supreme Court Appellate Division, a mid-level appeals court, ruled against the network, which wanted judges to dismiss the $2.7 billion defamation case.

    The company that brought the case, Smartmatic, has said it played a valid and small role in the election. It hailed the ruling as a step toward holding Fox News accountable for amplifying unsupported and damaging claims from Trump's lawyers.

    Fox News cast the case as an attempt to chill journalism, expressing confidence the network ultimately would prevail.

    Tuesday's decision means Smartmatic's suit continues against Fox News, hosts Maria Bartiromo and Jeanine Pirro, former host Lou Dobbs, and Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani. A claim against Trump lawyer Sidney Powell was dismissed earlier because she doesn't have ties to New York, where the case was filed.

    The five-judge ruling concluded there were “significant allegations” that Giuliani and Powell defamed the company.

    “The complaint alleges in detailed fashion that in their coverage and commentary, Fox News, Dobbs, and Bartiromo effectively endorsed and participated in the statements with reckless disregard for, or serious doubts about” whether there was any reliable evidence for them, five judges wrote in a unanimous opinion. Citing “the same reasoning,” they also reinstated Smartmatic's claims against Pirro, which a lower court had thrown out.

    Federal and state election officials, exhaustive reviews in battleground states and Trump’s own attorney general found no widespread fraud that could have changed the outcome of the 2020 election. Nor did they uncover any credible evidence that the vote was tainted. Trump’s allegations of fraud also were roundly rejected by dozens of courts, including by judges whom he had appointed.

    The ruling comes as Fox News fights a separate, $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit from Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems, with a trial date in April. The network also is fighting lawsuit from a Venezuelan businessman who said he was wrongly accused of trying to corrupt the election.

    Florida-based Smartmatic said that in the 2020 presidential election, its technology and software were used only in California’s Los Angeles County. The Democratic bastion went, as expected, for Democratic nominee and now-President Joe Biden.

    But Smartmatic says Fox News and the three hosts repeatedly allowed Trump's lawyers to falsely portray Smartmatic as a foreign company involved in a sprawling, multi-state operation to “flip” votes to Biden from the Republican incumbent.

    During a series of post-Election Day appearances, Giuliani asserted that the company had been “formed in order to fix elections.” Powell called it a “huge criminal conspiracy,” and the two claimed that proof would be forthcoming.

    After Smartmatic’s lawyers demanded a retraction, Fox News aired an interview with an election technology expert who said there was no evidence that the company's technology had monkeyed with the election results. He refuted various claims that Giuliani and Powell made.

    “Fox News, its news anchors and guests knowingly and falsely published lies,” Smartmatic lawyer J. Erik Connolly said in a statement Tuesday. The company maintains that the network can’t claim free speech protections for its conduct.

    Fox News argues that it can, saying it was informing the public about newsworthy, if controversial, claims from an important figure about a matter of public concern.

    “There is nothing more newsworthy than covering the president of the United States and his lawyers making allegations of voter fraud," the network said, adding that it was confident it would be vindicated. Fox News called the damages claim “outrageous” and "nothing more than a flagrant attempt to deter our journalists from doing their jobs.”

    A message seeking comment on Tuesday's ruling was sent to Giuliani’s lawyers. They have said Giuliani's statements were protected by the First Amendment and other laws and principles.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    What or how does it feel to be duped and laughed at, knowing you’re a sucker to them and that they’re laughing at you? Can’t wait for POOTWH to take the stand in the defense of the Pride Boyz on trial. Suckers.

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    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,298
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What or how does it feel to be duped and laughed at, knowing you’re a sucker to them and that they’re laughing at you? Can’t wait for POOTWH to take the stand in the defense of the Pride Boyz on trial. Suckers.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/16/media/fox-news-stars-executives-court-documents/index.html
    The messages also revealed that Rupert Murdoch, the chairman of Fox Corporation, did not believe Trump’s election lies and even floated the idea of having Carlson, Hannity, and Ingraham appear together in prime time to declare Joe Biden as the rightful winner of the election.
    Such an act, Murdoch said, “Would go a long way to stop the Trump myth that the election stolen.”
    The court document offered the most vivid picture to date of the chaos that transpired behind the scenes at Fox News after Trump lost the election and viewers rebelled against the right-wing channel for accurately calling the contest in Biden’s favor.

    wow....I think Fox is totally fucked. There is going to be a massive settlement.

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    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,618
    Time to double-down on the Twitter Files.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,298
    and remember Tucker Carlson's connection to Hunter....they were buds
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,442
    Looks to be some great reading over the weekend, particulary Section G, Page 29-32. Have fun boys & girls!

    59b93674-ba03-4bc1-94da-5e15f776fc43.pdf (washingtonpost.com)

    DOMINION’S BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF ITS MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT ON LIABILITY OF FOX NEWS NETWORK, LLC AND FOX CORPORATION

    Dated: January 17, 2022

    Brian E. Farnan (Bar No. 4089) Michael J. Farnan (Bar No. 5165)
    FARNAN LLP 919 N. Market St., 12th Floor
    Wilmington, Delaware 19801
    (302) 777-0300 bfarnan@farnanlaw.com


    TABLE OF CONTENTS TABLE OF AUTHORITIES .....................................................................................v
    INTRODUCTION .....................................................................................................1
    FACTUAL BACKGROUND..................................................................................14
    A. Dominion Voting Systems..................................................................15
    B. Prior to Election Day: Setting Up the False Narrative of Fraud....................................................................................................16
    C. Fox’s Election Day Coverage and Backlash.......................................18
    D. Election Fraud Conspiracy Theories Abound—and Soon Target Dominion. ................................................................................20
    E. Fox Calls the Election for Biden—and Mainstreams the False Narrative that Dominion Rigged the Election.....................................23
    F. Fox Continues to Woo Back Viewers and Goes on “War Footing” with Newsmax......................................................................26
    G. “This Dominion shit is going to give me a fucking aneurysm.” .............................................................................................................29
    H. The Pressure on Fox Grows—Even As Dominion Puts Fox on Notice. ............................................................................................32
    I. Fox Participated in the Narrative. .......................................................39
    LEGAL STANDARD..............................................................................................44 ARGUMENT...........................................................................................................46
    I. The Defamatory Statements Fox Published About Dominion Are False...............................................................................................................46
    A. Undisputed Evidence Proves the Falsity of Fox’s Statements. .............................................................................................................49 
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  • The Juggler
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    Would love to hear the maga's opinions of the Fox hosts blatantly lying to them.....somehow I doubt we will hear it. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,253
    The Juggler said:
    Would love to hear the maga's opinions of the Fox hosts blatantly lying to them.....somehow I doubt we will hear it. 
    by definition fox viewers do not know that they are being lied to, because the fox talking heads aren't telling them that they are.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,618
    The Juggler said:
    Would love to hear the maga's opinions of the Fox hosts blatantly lying to them.....somehow I doubt we will hear it. 
    The twitter response is usually a deflection to how biased CNN and MSNBC are. I assume this is followed by continuing to believe that Trump won.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    This case differs from nearly any defamation case before it.

    Normally plaintiffs prove defendants’ actual malice—whether they knew it was false or “in fact entertained serious doubts as to the truth of the statement”—“by inference, as it would be rare for a defendant to admit such doubts.” Solano v. Playgirl, Inc., 292 F.3d 1078, 1085 (9th Cir. 2002) (citation omitted).

    Here, however, overwhelming direct evidence establishes Fox’s knowledge of falsity, not just “doubts.”

    Normally defamation cases involve a single defamatory statement. Here, Fox defamed Dominion not once. Not twice. Not three times. But continually. Over a months-long timeframe. And while defamation cases often involve matters of public concern, the false statements here—in the words of Fox host Tucker Carlson— “would amount to the single greatest crime in American history. Millions of votes stolen in a day. Democracy destroyed. The end of our centuries’ old system of self-government.” Ex.170 at FNN018_02408904.

    Normally defamation cases involve the state of mind of one person, or sometimes a handful, as the law only requires that one person with editorial responsibility have the requisite actual malice. Here, however, literally dozens of people with editorial responsibility—from the top of the organization to the producers of specific shows to the hosts themselves—acted with actual malice.

    Normally multiple public sources, credible third parties, and governmental agencies at all levels do not debunk the lies in real time. Here, however, they all did so—and Fox knew about them. Normally the plaintiff does not inform the defendant about the falsity of the allegations during the course of the defamation itself. Here, however, Dominion repeatedly told Fox and urged it to stop publishing these “debunked” and “completely false” claims. E.g., Ex.339; Ex.340; see, infra, §V.A.

    Fox admits Sidney Powell and her team never provided Fox with any evidence. Ex.128, Lowell 30(b)(6) 285:10-13, 286:3-13.

    Dominion, by contrast, made over 3,600 separate communications to Fox with at least a dozen separate and widely-circulated fact check emails—each pointing to verifiable third-party information debunking the claims. Ex.128, Lowell 30(b)(6) 544:6-13, 389:5-391:25. Fox’s research department itself—along with multiple Fox employees—debunked these claims in real time. See, e.g., Ex.168; Ex.160; Ex.318. No credible evidence ever existed for these “absurd” allegations against Dominion. Ex.169 at FNN035_03890644. Fox witness after Fox witness has admitted as much, consistent with every single reputable third party and stacks of public record documents. See, infra, nn.12-13.

    Normally a defendant does not continue to broadcast lies even after the plaintiff sends verifiable information demonstrating their falsity. Here, however, Fox continued to broadcast these debunked claims even after Dominion sent notification after notification to Fox. Indeed, nineteen of the twenty accused statements occurred after Dominion alerted Fox that these wild allegations were lies and pointed Fox to the correct information. See, infra, §§V.A, V.D.

    And normally plaintiffs in defamation cases do not move for summary judgment of liability, let alone file a 40,000-word opening brief. Here, however, Dominion details some of the extensive record evidence demonstrating Fox’s liability on every point—covering this months-long period involving four categories of lies in twenty accused statements across six different shows with the active involvement of numerous Fox Executives.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    The magat response to the lies will be "so much for freedom of speech"
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Fucker Carlson speaked with forked tongue! Page 19.


    Fox Hosts Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, and Sean Hannity immediately understood the threat to them personally. Carlson wrote his producer Alex Pfeiffer on November 5: “We worked really hard to build what we have. Those fuckers are destroying our credibility. It enrages me.” Ex.199 at FNN035_03890623. He added that he had spoken with “Laura and [S]ean a minute ago” and they are “highly upset.” Id. at FNN035_03890624. Carlson noted: “At this point we’re getting hurt no matter what.” Id. at FNN035_03890625. Pfeiffer responded: “It’s a hard needle to thread, but I really think many on ‘our side’ are being reckless demagogues right now.” Id. Tucker replied: “Of course they are. We’re not going to follow them.” Id. And he added: “What [Trump]’s good at is destroying things. He’s the undisputed world champion of that. He could easily destroy us if we play it wrong.” Id. at FNN035_03890626. 
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