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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    treating it as a joke.......

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    lol "I'm sure"

    this will (should) make users trust it less. It is baffling how trusting some people are of someone trying to make a buck.

    Bots do not get verified lol.  Someone like Nate doesn't "need" a blue check. This just makes verifiable people that do not want to pay look less reliable in the long run - especially those who come onto the platform later, and are not "established". What the hell is wrong with peoples brains lol

    What's going to happen here: he's going to try his best to turn a large profit, his board and the public that own shares will realize he can't do so in the long run, and will then proceed to take Twitter private at which point it will be a Parler equivalent anyway.


    I don't get how Twitter was worth 44 billion...  That just seems insane to me.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,619
    edited October 2022
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    lol "I'm sure"

    this will (should) make users trust it less. It is baffling how trusting some people are of someone trying to make a buck.

    Bots do not get verified lol.  Someone like Nate doesn't "need" a blue check. This just makes verifiable people that do not want to pay look less reliable in the long run - especially those who come onto the platform later, and are not "established". What the hell is wrong with peoples brains lol

    What's going to happen here: he's going to try his best to turn a large profit, his board and the public that own shares will realize he can't do so in the long run, and will then proceed to take Twitter private at which point it will be a Parler equivalent anyway.


    I don't get how Twitter was worth 44 billion...  That just seems insane to me.
    Of course it's insane! That's because it's not! It's why the BODs of Twitter, any senior exec with rights in that sale, were like, "YES, PLEASE, ELON. IT'S ALL YOURS."
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Do you know what a bot is?

    Of course people automate tweets emails, etc etc, but it's at the direction of someone/something that can be traced lol

    https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/about-twitter-verified-accounts
    A bot is an AI program, no?

    After reading the verification process I can see how that would be difficult to verify one.  I would think it could still be done though.  To me it's not worth the effort.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    lol "I'm sure"

    this will (should) make users trust it less. It is baffling how trusting some people are of someone trying to make a buck.

    Bots do not get verified lol.  Someone like Nate doesn't "need" a blue check. This just makes verifiable people that do not want to pay look less reliable in the long run - especially those who come onto the platform later, and are not "established". What the hell is wrong with peoples brains lol

    What's going to happen here: he's going to try his best to turn a large profit, his board and the public that own shares will realize he can't do so in the long run, and will then proceed to take Twitter private at which point it will be a Parler equivalent anyway.


    I don't get how Twitter was worth 44 billion...  That just seems insane to me.
    Of course it's insane! That's because it's not! It's why the BODs of Twitter, any senior exec with rights in that sale, were like, "YES, PLEASE, ELON. IT'S ALL YOURS."
    HA! Now that makes more sense.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,208
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    OnWis97 said:
    The Twitterverse is really reveling in now-former Twitter employees loosing their jobs.
    It's a new owner, he wants his own people.  Not sure why people would not understand this.
    I think he's talking about people being happy other people lost their jobs not being surprised they lost them. 
    Really?  Wow.  I missed that one, lol.

    So people are happy the decision makers are gone?  And I thought it was a cesspool before, just think of what it will turn into now, lol!


    We should all be happy. Musk revealed himself as q.


     Ironic he needs the govt and tree huggers to maintain his fortune (space x and Tesla). Once libs realize his EVs do almost nothing to save the planet, his worth will decline. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
    People that would buy a Tesla have their head so far up Elon's ass they will never see anything he does as bad.  His cult of personality is as bad as Trumps.  He can do no wrong to some.  Couple that with the billions of dollars the defense industry has tied up in his companies and Elon will not end up having a bad day.  Those military types are rife with Qs, I used to work in defense and if anything Q is the same stuff they were talking about a decade ago, they just have a call sign now.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,396
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    OnWis97 said:
    The Twitterverse is really reveling in now-former Twitter employees loosing their jobs.
    It's a new owner, he wants his own people.  Not sure why people would not understand this.
    I think he's talking about people being happy other people lost their jobs not being surprised they lost them. 
    Really?  Wow.  I missed that one, lol.

    So people are happy the decision makers are gone?  And I thought it was a cesspool before, just think of what it will turn into now, lol!


    We should all be happy. Musk revealed himself as q.


     Ironic he needs the govt and tree huggers to maintain his fortune (space x and Tesla). Once libs realize his EVs do almost nothing to save the planet, his worth will decline. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
    People that would buy a Tesla have their head so far up Elon's ass they will never see anything he does as bad.  His cult of personality is as bad as Trumps.  He can do no wrong to some.  Couple that with the billions of dollars the defense industry has tied up in his companies and Elon will not end up having a bad day.  Those military types are rife with Qs, I used to work in defense and if anything Q is the same stuff they were talking about a decade ago, they just have a call sign now.

    Many liked Musk and bought his EVs when he was able to mask his political leanings. Now that its become obvious he's a raging Q,  left leaning EV buyers may not want to be associated with his brand. To me EVs are todays snake oil fwiw.
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    OnWis97 said:
    The Twitterverse is really reveling in now-former Twitter employees loosing their jobs.
    It's a new owner, he wants his own people.  Not sure why people would not understand this.
    I think he's talking about people being happy other people lost their jobs not being surprised they lost them. 
    Really?  Wow.  I missed that one, lol.

    So people are happy the decision makers are gone?  And I thought it was a cesspool before, just think of what it will turn into now, lol!


    We should all be happy. Musk revealed himself as q.


     Ironic he needs the govt and tree huggers to maintain his fortune (space x and Tesla). Once libs realize his EVs do almost nothing to save the planet, his worth will decline. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
    People that would buy a Tesla have their head so far up Elon's ass they will never see anything he does as bad.  His cult of personality is as bad as Trumps.  He can do no wrong to some.  Couple that with the billions of dollars the defense industry has tied up in his companies and Elon will not end up having a bad day.  Those military types are rife with Qs, I used to work in defense and if anything Q is the same stuff they were talking about a decade ago, they just have a call sign now.

    Many liked Musk and bought his EVs when he was able to mask his political leanings. Now that its become obvious he's a raging Q,  left leaning EV buyers may not want to be associated with his brand. To me EVs are todays snake oil fwiw.
    I tend to think this all hurts Tesla as well. There are other electric cars for the libs to buy and no matter how much they love Elon, MAGA likes burnin' fuel.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,619
    edited November 2022
    I just don't understand the blind admiration to the guy. This country just loves to look up at rich people because they themselves wish they were also rich.

    The only reason this'll hurt Tesla is because he had to borrow money from Tesla to buy this fuckin company. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.
    SAAB is cooler.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.
    SAAB is cooler.
    Nothing is cool about a Saab or a volvo...  I'd drive a Buick first and those are uncool too.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.
    I think it's paper thin.  I was shocked by how light and thin the exterior doors were.  I also think not having a control gauge in front of you is dangerous.  The whole concept of "heads up" display is to reduce fatigue.  Tesla goes the other way and puts it down, to your right.  Makes no sense.   
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,953
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.
    I think it's paper thin.  I was shocked by how light and thin the exterior doors were.  I also think not having a control gauge in front of you is dangerous.  The whole concept of "heads up" display is to reduce fatigue.  Tesla goes the other way and puts it down, to your right.  Makes no sense.   

    Yah that's my biggest issue with Tesla's.  I would prefer the classic gauges right in front (speed, odemeter etc.).

    I really want a small electric pick up truck.   I keep crossing my fingers that the Alpha Wolf+ will start getting made.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,396
    edited November 2022
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.

    They are very sleek and nice, but consumers are paying for that. $70k for a mid sized car? Considering they are powered by coal and nat gas, have toxic batteries with minimal oversight for safe disposal and significant geopolitical concerns regarding mining raw materials, Teslas amount to a pretty form of snake oil. First, let’s replace all coal and gas fired plants, find a safe way to produce and dispose of batteries, then we may be onto something with EVs
    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.

    They are very sleek and nice, but consumers are paying for that. $70k for a mid sized car? Considering they are powered by coal and nat gas, have toxic batteries with minimal oversight for safe disposal and significant geopolitical concerns regarding mining raw materials, Teslas amount to a pretty form of snake oil. First, let’s replace all coal and gas fired plants, find a safe way to produce and dispose of batteries, then we may be onto something with EVs
    Government needs to step up on the batteries and their components.

    Everyone forgets that Tesla is a step in the right direction.  All these companies coming around that you want to do better is a direct cause of Tesla in the first place.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.

    They are very sleek and nice, but consumers are paying for that. $70k for a mid sized car? Considering they are powered by coal and nat gas, have toxic batteries with minimal oversight for safe disposal and significant geopolitical concerns regarding mining raw materials, Teslas amount to a pretty form of snake oil. First, let’s replace all coal and gas fired plants, find a safe way to produce and dispose of batteries, then we may be onto something with EVs
    Yup.. we are just tearing up the Earth looking for nickel now, rather than crude.  

    I'm admittedly an asshole on this topic as I have a few classic cars that are not good on gas.  Although I drove them about 3k miles per year.  But still, not green. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,396
    .tempo_n_groove said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.

    They are very sleek and nice, but consumers are paying for that. $70k for a mid sized car? Considering they are powered by coal and nat gas, have toxic batteries with minimal oversight for safe disposal and significant geopolitical concerns regarding mining raw materials, Teslas amount to a pretty form of snake oil. First, let’s replace all coal and gas fired plants, find a safe way to produce and dispose of batteries, then we may be onto something with EVs
    Government needs to step up on the batteries and their components.

    Everyone forgets that Tesla is a step in the right direction.  All these companies coming around that you want to do better is a direct cause of Tesla in the first place.

    Looking at how many people support the gop, I have little faith. Maybe teslas are becoming a status symbol now. Musk did carve out a brand new car company in the US market, which is impressive, but looking at him now, it really looks like he is more interested in profiteering off of taking advantage of liberal fear of climate crisis.

    The problem is too many vote for politicians who support coal and other fossil fuels. Climate is not even an issue for the midterms.Belief that EVs are better is obscuring the fact that we need to eliminate coal and convert oil heat to electric, and convert gas fired plants to renewables. 

    Until all this occurs, not sure why we’d call an EV “better.” It’s misdirection - the need to change the source of the energy, not the consumer end use. Frankly, the EV industry has grown too fast considering many issues, including pollution off of disposal, something utilities need to consider at the beginning of an investment, is not being addressed by the EV industry and could quadruple costs, which will be paid for by guess who? Taxpayers of course. We believe EVs are better and it’s entirely possible they are every bit as bad as the combustible engine vehicle.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,619
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.

    They are very sleek and nice, but consumers are paying for that. $70k for a mid sized car? Considering they are powered by coal and nat gas, have toxic batteries with minimal oversight for safe disposal and significant geopolitical concerns regarding mining raw materials, Teslas amount to a pretty form of snake oil. First, let’s replace all coal and gas fired plants, find a safe way to produce and dispose of batteries, then we may be onto something with EVs
    Yup.. we are just tearing up the Earth looking for nickel now, rather than crude.  

    I'm admittedly an asshole on this topic as I have a few classic cars that are not good on gas.  Although I drove them about 3k miles per year.  But still, not green. 
    Forest from the trees would be improving & investing in public trans infrastructure. But Elon wants to talk about hyperloops when all we need is some trains. But that's too pragmatic and practical.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Lerxst1992 said:
    .tempo_n_groove said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone been in a Tesla?  The friggin car is fast and really nice.  I'll say that about the car.

    They are very sleek and nice, but consumers are paying for that. $70k for a mid sized car? Considering they are powered by coal and nat gas, have toxic batteries with minimal oversight for safe disposal and significant geopolitical concerns regarding mining raw materials, Teslas amount to a pretty form of snake oil. First, let’s replace all coal and gas fired plants, find a safe way to produce and dispose of batteries, then we may be onto something with EVs
    Government needs to step up on the batteries and their components.

    Everyone forgets that Tesla is a step in the right direction.  All these companies coming around that you want to do better is a direct cause of Tesla in the first place.

    Looking at how many people support the gop, I have little faith. Maybe teslas are becoming a status symbol now. Musk did carve out a brand new car company in the US market, which is impressive, but looking at him now, it really looks like he is more interested in profiteering off of taking advantage of liberal fear of climate crisis.

    The problem is too many vote for politicians who support coal and other fossil fuels. Climate is not even an issue for the midterms.Belief that EVs are better is obscuring the fact that we need to eliminate coal and convert oil heat to electric, and convert gas fired plants to renewables. 

    Until all this occurs, not sure why we’d call an EV “better.” It’s misdirection - the need to change the source of the energy, not the consumer end use. Frankly, the EV industry has grown too fast considering many issues, including pollution off of disposal, something utilities need to consider at the beginning of an investment, is not being addressed by the EV industry and could quadruple costs, which will be paid for by guess who? Taxpayers of course. We believe EVs are better and it’s entirely possible they are every bit as bad as the combustible engine vehicle.
    You prove my point why EV are better.  It brings about a conversation.

    I'm all for bringing Nuclear back to the front again.  We should totally be building more.

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