Dahmer TV series

Gern Blansten · October 2022

Ledbetterman10 said:

I watched it but it just reinforced my feeling of not caring for dramatizations of things like this. Documentary-style, like the Dahmer/Gacy/Bundy “tapes” on Netflix are way better. It’s interesting stuff and worth learning about, but not stuff I’m looking to be “entertained” by like this series tries to do.

And that woman that called the cops didn’t even live in the building let alone next door to Dahmer. I dislike fake bullshit getting jammed into shows about actual events. Guess ya gotta fill the 10 hours somehow. This was way too long.

Yeah some of the liberties taken bother me a bit but my guess is that the character was a combo of information obtained...i.e. some true neighbors probably mentioned hearing odd things, smelling nasty shit, etc., and they just combined it all into her character.

I like these things but yes, I probably do prefer the "tapes" type docs better.

edit: reminds me of "The Right Stuff"...great movie but I saw it not too long after reading Chuck Yeager's book. In the movie Yeager reaches the edge of outer space in his test plane and ends up crashing the plane. In reality he landed it. It was a different trip that resulted in a crash and him getting hit in the face with his seat that was on fire when he ejected, etc. Still a great move...that just always bothered me.

Ledbetterman10 · October 2022

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

I watched it but it just reinforced my feeling of not caring for dramatizations of things like this. Documentary-style, like the Dahmer/Gacy/Bundy “tapes” on Netflix are way better. It’s interesting stuff and worth learning about, but not stuff I’m looking to be “entertained” by like this series tries to do.

And that woman that called the cops didn’t even live in the building let alone next door to Dahmer. I dislike fake bullshit getting jammed into shows about actual events. Guess ya gotta fill the 10 hours somehow. This was way too long.

Yeah some of the liberties taken bother me a bit but my guess is that the character was a combo of information obtained...i.e. some true neighbors probably mentioned hearing odd things, smelling nasty shit, etc., and they just combined it all into her character.

I like these things but yes, I probably do prefer the "tapes" type docs better.

edit: reminds me of "The Right Stuff"...great movie but I saw it not too long after reading Chuck Yeager's book. In the movie Yeager reaches the edge of outer space in his test plane and ends up crashing the plane. In reality he landed it. It was a different trip that resulted in a crash and him getting hit in the face with his seat that was on fire when he ejected, etc. Still a great move...that just always bothered me.

That's exactly right. The "tapes" actually has an interview with his neighbor across the hall. The neighbor's wife confronted Dahmer on the smell. I just thought that neighbor character in the show felt like "filler." Again, gotta fill the 10 hours somehow. Like the scene where Dahmer goes to her apartment and offers her a sandwich. I mean, come on.....

Gern Blansten · October 2022

The Serpent on Netflix took similar liberties. Great docudrama by the way if you haven't seen it.

But reading up on the actual guy reveals some liberties taken there as well. Still...the overall story was accurate. Dude was insane.

Ledbetterman10 · October 2022

The entire Netflix empire seems to be built on the blood, sweat, and tears.....of serial killers and Nazis. I think they make up at least 40% of the programming.

Gern Blansten · October 2022

lol....true

Now if they would just have a series that recreated all of Ann Rule's books

tempo_n_groove · October 2022

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

I watched it but it just reinforced my feeling of not caring for dramatizations of things like this. Documentary-style, like the Dahmer/Gacy/Bundy “tapes” on Netflix are way better. It’s interesting stuff and worth learning about, but not stuff I’m looking to be “entertained” by like this series tries to do.

And that woman that called the cops didn’t even live in the building let alone next door to Dahmer. I dislike fake bullshit getting jammed into shows about actual events. Guess ya gotta fill the 10 hours somehow. This was way too long.

Yeah some of the liberties taken bother me a bit but my guess is that the character was a combo of information obtained...i.e. some true neighbors probably mentioned hearing odd things, smelling nasty shit, etc., and they just combined it all into her character.

I like these things but yes, I probably do prefer the "tapes" type docs better.

edit: reminds me of "The Right Stuff"...great movie but I saw it not too long after reading Chuck Yeager's book. In the movie Yeager reaches the edge of outer space in his test plane and ends up crashing the plane. In reality he landed it. It was a different trip that resulted in a crash and him getting hit in the face with his seat that was on fire when he ejected, etc. Still a great move...that just always bothered me.

That's exactly right. The "tapes" actually has an interview with his neighbor across the hall. The neighbor's wife confronted Dahmer on the smell. I just thought that neighbor character in the show felt like "filler." Again, gotta fill the 10 hours somehow. Like the scene where Dahmer goes to her apartment and offers her a sandwich. I mean, come on.....

They took a bunch of information and crammed it into 1 character pretty much. It was trying to show how he fooled other people I guess?

brianlux · October 2022

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

brianlux said:

MayDay10 said:

Dahmer isnt so much a violent thing though. From what I hear, the show does not focus so much on the gore and brutality. Dahmer wasnt so much of a violent person who wanted to hurt people... He was just a sicko who wanted a zombie-man to have sex with all the time and kept trying to accomplish this and preserve people/parts to scratch the itch, but kept failing, thus needing more.

I do get what you are saying with the families though, thats awful

I wont watch this because I dont really want to immerse myself in this story. Too much negativity. I know the story and have been reminded over these 30 years. Dont need to watch a dramatization about it.

Smart move!

This also illustrates my point. So many people are drawn to these kinds of stories like moths to flames (watch the ratings on this kind of thing sky-rocket). So many do want to immerse themselves in these stories. They are compelled by them. And then become jaded and desensitized.
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If anyone disagrees my my take, I won't argue more here. But do think of the families and what this does to them.

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

OK, thanks!
Well, even without seeing it, this is my honest take on the show. I am really concerned about this show. I read an article in The Guardian that talked about how many of the family members of Dahmer's victims are very upset about them making a show about this guy. That sure is understandable to me- I would be too.
Two things bother's me the most. One is that the family's reactions were not taken into consideration in making this show. The second is a more broad concern about America's (and maybe people in general) infatuation with violence. An awful lot of people love violence. Just looking at how much violence is on TV and in movies illustrates that. Last night, for example, I watched the movie "Harry Brown". I thought I might like it because Michael Caine is in it. Wrong! Major blood bath, ultra violent.
So many films are this way. Why? Because people love violence. And I'm not saying every movie needs to be sugar-coated or G-rated. Violence is part of the world. But our culture fucking promotes violence. We are jaded and desensitized to it (that is true, you can't deny it). People seek it out as entertainment. We are an increasingly violence oriented culture. And like the David Bradley character Len in "Harry Brown", I am fearful of the violence in this world. And for good reason. I was bullied and beaten as a kid, and have been assaulted twice as an adult. So now we have another show that serves to promote that kind of behavior. Great.

Disagree. I am not infatuated with violence. I guess I am infatuated with true crime though. I want to know what the fuck happened and why.

His behavior definitely wasn't promoted. It was just a docudrama.

I already said I would not argue.

No you didn't

Yes I did. Stop being such a jerk. WTF is your problem anyway? You don't like me? Fine, no problem. Use the ignore function.

holy shit man...it was CLEARLY a joke

check your bp

If that's the case, I apologize. It went right over my head.

In any case, it was wrong of me to lose my cool that way. BP actually might be a factor. I have orthostatic hypotension (low blood pressure) but when it was checked two days ago, my BP was 95 over 156.
Still, not an excuse for me being a grouch. Sorry man.

Gern Blansten · October 2022

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

brianlux said:

MayDay10 said:

Dahmer isnt so much a violent thing though. From what I hear, the show does not focus so much on the gore and brutality. Dahmer wasnt so much of a violent person who wanted to hurt people... He was just a sicko who wanted a zombie-man to have sex with all the time and kept trying to accomplish this and preserve people/parts to scratch the itch, but kept failing, thus needing more.

I do get what you are saying with the families though, thats awful

I wont watch this because I dont really want to immerse myself in this story. Too much negativity. I know the story and have been reminded over these 30 years. Dont need to watch a dramatization about it.

Smart move!

This also illustrates my point. So many people are drawn to these kinds of stories like moths to flames (watch the ratings on this kind of thing sky-rocket). So many do want to immerse themselves in these stories. They are compelled by them. And then become jaded and desensitized.
**************************
If anyone disagrees my my take, I won't argue more here. But do think of the families and what this does to them.

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

OK, thanks!
Well, even without seeing it, this is my honest take on the show. I am really concerned about this show. I read an article in The Guardian that talked about how many of the family members of Dahmer's victims are very upset about them making a show about this guy. That sure is understandable to me- I would be too.
Two things bother's me the most. One is that the family's reactions were not taken into consideration in making this show. The second is a more broad concern about America's (and maybe people in general) infatuation with violence. An awful lot of people love violence. Just looking at how much violence is on TV and in movies illustrates that. Last night, for example, I watched the movie "Harry Brown". I thought I might like it because Michael Caine is in it. Wrong! Major blood bath, ultra violent.
So many films are this way. Why? Because people love violence. And I'm not saying every movie needs to be sugar-coated or G-rated. Violence is part of the world. But our culture fucking promotes violence. We are jaded and desensitized to it (that is true, you can't deny it). People seek it out as entertainment. We are an increasingly violence oriented culture. And like the David Bradley character Len in "Harry Brown", I am fearful of the violence in this world. And for good reason. I was bullied and beaten as a kid, and have been assaulted twice as an adult. So now we have another show that serves to promote that kind of behavior. Great.

Disagree. I am not infatuated with violence. I guess I am infatuated with true crime though. I want to know what the fuck happened and why.

His behavior definitely wasn't promoted. It was just a docudrama.

I already said I would not argue.

No you didn't

Yes I did. Stop being such a jerk. WTF is your problem anyway? You don't like me? Fine, no problem. Use the ignore function.

holy shit man...it was CLEARLY a joke

check your bp

If that's the case, I apologize. It went right over my head.
In any case, it was wrong of me to lose my cool that way. BP actually might be a factor. I have orthostatic hypotension (low blood pressure) but when it was checked two days ago, my BP was 95 over 156.
Still, not an excuse for me being a grouch. Sorry man.

No problem. I can be irritating for sure.

I'm medicated for mine...possibly overmedicated as I seem to have this ACE inhibitor cough that it a side effect of the meds.

brianlux · October 2022

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

brianlux said:

MayDay10 said:

Dahmer isnt so much a violent thing though. From what I hear, the show does not focus so much on the gore and brutality. Dahmer wasnt so much of a violent person who wanted to hurt people... He was just a sicko who wanted a zombie-man to have sex with all the time and kept trying to accomplish this and preserve people/parts to scratch the itch, but kept failing, thus needing more.

I do get what you are saying with the families though, thats awful

I wont watch this because I dont really want to immerse myself in this story. Too much negativity. I know the story and have been reminded over these 30 years. Dont need to watch a dramatization about it.

Smart move!

This also illustrates my point. So many people are drawn to these kinds of stories like moths to flames (watch the ratings on this kind of thing sky-rocket). So many do want to immerse themselves in these stories. They are compelled by them. And then become jaded and desensitized.
**************************
If anyone disagrees my my take, I won't argue more here. But do think of the families and what this does to them.

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

OK, thanks!
Well, even without seeing it, this is my honest take on the show. I am really concerned about this show. I read an article in The Guardian that talked about how many of the family members of Dahmer's victims are very upset about them making a show about this guy. That sure is understandable to me- I would be too.
Two things bother's me the most. One is that the family's reactions were not taken into consideration in making this show. The second is a more broad concern about America's (and maybe people in general) infatuation with violence. An awful lot of people love violence. Just looking at how much violence is on TV and in movies illustrates that. Last night, for example, I watched the movie "Harry Brown". I thought I might like it because Michael Caine is in it. Wrong! Major blood bath, ultra violent.
So many films are this way. Why? Because people love violence. And I'm not saying every movie needs to be sugar-coated or G-rated. Violence is part of the world. But our culture fucking promotes violence. We are jaded and desensitized to it (that is true, you can't deny it). People seek it out as entertainment. We are an increasingly violence oriented culture. And like the David Bradley character Len in "Harry Brown", I am fearful of the violence in this world. And for good reason. I was bullied and beaten as a kid, and have been assaulted twice as an adult. So now we have another show that serves to promote that kind of behavior. Great.

Disagree. I am not infatuated with violence. I guess I am infatuated with true crime though. I want to know what the fuck happened and why.

His behavior definitely wasn't promoted. It was just a docudrama.

I already said I would not argue.

No you didn't

Yes I did. Stop being such a jerk. WTF is your problem anyway? You don't like me? Fine, no problem. Use the ignore function.

holy shit man...it was CLEARLY a joke

check your bp

If that's the case, I apologize. It went right over my head.
In any case, it was wrong of me to lose my cool that way. BP actually might be a factor. I have orthostatic hypotension (low blood pressure) but when it was checked two days ago, my BP was 95 over 156.
Still, not an excuse for me being a grouch. Sorry man.

No problem. I can be irritating for sure.

I'm medicated for mine...possibly overmedicated as I seem to have this ACE inhibitor cough that it a side effect of the meds.

BP issues are tricky, for sure. Sorry to hear you have similar issues.
Take good care!

PJ_Soul · October 2022

I don't care what others think about the series existing at all. It's for some people, not for others. Whatever. I do find it annoying when people form strong opinions about shows or movies they haven't watched, and I think it's strange to criticize people for liking true crime... It is so very natural and human to focus on crime in such a way. It impacts our lives and our psyches directly, so why wouldn't people be fascinated by it?

I think the series objectively does not glorify his crimes, and focuses on the victims and how the cops fucked up so bad and on how much damage Dahmer did in his life. It is also very well-acted on all counts, and well-directed. I am a huge true-crime buff (and no, I'm not desensitized at all), so of course already knew everything there is to know about the Dahmer case, and still this series was fascinating and managed to come at it from a unique direction.

brianlux · October 2022

PJ_Soul said:

I don't care what others think about the series existing at all. It's for some people, not for others. Whatever. I do find it annoying when people form strong opinions about shows or movies they haven't watched, and I think it's strange to criticize people for liking true crime... It is so very natural and human to focus on crime in such a way. It impacts our lives and our psyches directly, so why wouldn't people be fascinated by it?
I think the series objectively does not glorify his crimes, and focuses on the victims and how the cops fucked up so bad and on how much damage Dahmer did in his life. It is also very well-acted on all counts, and well-directed. I am a huge true-crime buff (and no, I'm not desensitized at all), so of course already knew everything there is to know about the Dahmer case, and still this series was fascinating and managed to come at it from a unique direction.

I don't mind if you quote me or reference me on this, especially since I'm one of the few if not the only person who feels strongly this way. Even if you were to say, "Brian, I think you are full of shit on this one," I would still think of you as one of my favorite people here. We both speak our minds freely. Can't beat that.

BLACK35 · October 2022

Gern Blansten said:

The Serpent on Netflix took similar liberties. Great docudrama by the way if you haven't seen it.

But reading up on the actual guy reveals some liberties taken there as well. Still...the overall story was accurate. Dude was insane.

Watched the Serpent, really enjoyed it. Dude was fucked for sure

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