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FYI: Ladies Beware in Chicago

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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    lawguy wrote:
    No, I also prefer any guy friends to take a cab if they are drunk. However, I personally prefer to date women, so that is who I am out drinking with the majority of time. I am sorry if you only hang out with dudes.

    i dont drink and im not out at that hour anymore. i was mugged twice in columbus. i learned not to be a fucking idiot.
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    SkeeterBSkeeterB If I knew where it was, I would take you there... Posts: 422
    if you are a woman and make a habit of wandering around big cities late at night alone while drunk, you're a fucking idiot.

    Just so you know, one of the girls got out of the cab, and between her walk from the cab to her apt, she was attacked. So, she's not a fucking idiot as you say.

    This one happened about 1/4 mile from my apt, and not in a million years would I think this would happen.
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    Gary CarterGary Carter Shea Stadium Posts: 13,940
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Sorry, I would win by a landslide.

    Biatch.
    you act like your 15, oh wait maybe cause you are. but i think that the ASS award should go to boston lou or cory
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    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    hippiemom wrote:
    I have walked home from bars in my neighborhood while not drunk. It IS possible to spend an evening in a bar and not get trashed ... although if a woman is drunk, I don't see what that has to do with anything. I live in what sounds like a similar area .... it's urban, with a good bit of night life, but considered very safe. I've walked around it for over 30 years without incident, and if I found myself in a similar neighborhood in another city I might do the same, so I thought that the warning was helpful. I don't understand the hostility.

    the hostility comes from me offering a bit of regular, albeit blunt, common sense and instantly being accused of saying women deserve to be raped.
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    lawguylawguy Posts: 257
    he could and you'd lose your wallet. not quite as bad as getting sodomized by a stranger. it's a sad fact that the overwhelming majority of victims of sexual assault are women. in a big city, women should be careful. i wish it weren't the case, but it is.

    jesus, when did the world become so pc it encourages rank stupidity?


    You could very easily be sodomized by an armed robber.

    Yes, woman are the majority of victims. But how often do sexual assualts happen in that neighborhood? And how often are sexual assaults random and not a date rape type occurance? I am sorry, but they do not just roll up the sidewalks at dark. Just because someone walks home from a bar does not mean they are drunk, nor does it mean they are being stupid. You can be as careful as hell and still be a vicitm of crime.
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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    lawguy wrote:
    You could very easily be sodomized by an armed robber.

    Yes, woman are the majority of victims. But how often do sexual assualts happen in that neighborhood? And how often are sexual assaults random and not a date rape type occurance? I am sorry, but they do not just roll up the sidewalks at dark. Just because someone walks home from a bar does not mean they are drunk, nor does it mean they are being stupid. You can be as careful as hell and still be a vicitm of crime.

    i knew before junior high that i shouldnt walk in big cities alone at night and i should always keep a careful eye on my surroundings. this isn't quantum physics.
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    lawguylawguy Posts: 257
    i dont drink and im not out at that hour anymore. i was mugged twice in columbus. i learned not to be a fucking idiot.


    I am sorry you got mugged twice. I am even more sorry that you feel that you can't venture out in to the world past a certain point. That is a shitty outlook on life and humanity. But that works for you. I have been mugged once, but I still go out. I dont think I am inviting muggers just because I choose to be out.

    What do you do in the winter when it gets dark at like 4pm. Do you have to be home by that point?
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    AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    know your environment and act accordingly. it's common sense.

    I couldn't agree more. That's exactly why lawguy was giving out a friendly warning to the people that do not know the enviroment. It's really not that hard to understand.
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    chikevinchikevin Posts: 421
    lawguy wrote:
    You can be as careful as hell and still be a vicitm of crime.
    your point is taken, but this is great advice in any city.
    yes, there's some sicko out in that area right now...and your warning is heeded. that said, people will do what they want.

    you can't beat into people's head that there's a danger if they don't care.

    just let it go. it was very informative and i'm sure appreciated by many.

    those who dis this b/c it's chicago. it's simply an informational thread. just be careful...wherever you are.
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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    lawguy wrote:
    I am sorry you got mugged twice. I am even more sorry that you feel that you can't venture out in to the world past a certain point. That is a shitty outlook on life and humanity. But that works for you. I have been mugged once, but I still go out. I dont think I am inviting muggers just because I choose to be out.

    What do you do in the winter when it gets dark at like 4pm. Do you have to be home by that point?

    i go out at dark plenty. i quit drinking for other reasons. but when i go out i travel in groups and if that is not possible i take cabs/busses and always keep a careful eye on my surroundings. i venture out plenty. and i wander plenty. im also ready to fight if need be, or to hand over my wallet if need be. if i was a girl, id carry a can of mace and have my hand on it the whole way home. lone women are the top target of criminals.

    i dont worry about the winter. any mugger would freeze to death waiting for you to walk by.
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    lawguylawguy Posts: 257
    i go out at dark plenty. i quit drinking for other reasons. but when i go out i travel in groups and if that is not possible i take cabs/busses and always keep a careful eye on my surroundings. i venture out plenty. and i wander plenty. im also ready to fight if need be, or to hand over my wallet if need be. if i was a girl, id carry a can of mace and have my hand on it the whole way home. lone women are the top target of criminals.

    i dont worry about the winter. any mugger would freeze to death waiting for you to walk by.


    As someone said before, one woman was attacked getting out of the cab. It does not matter how much you prepare or try to prevent crime.

    I think we will have to agree to disagree. I see where you are coming from and I always prefer that people know their surroundings, but I don't feel like people, or females specifically, should have to feel that they always have to take a cab three blocks.
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    Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    you act like your 15, oh wait maybe cause you are. but i think that the ASS award should go to boston lou or cory

    Are you kidding? Both those guys are fucking geniuses. Sometimes it seems like there are a grand total of 4 sane people on this message board, surrounded by a legion of idiots.
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    Jesika537Jesika537 Posts: 301
    might be best. id hate to have to hold you while you cried as my tigers are whoopin your mets' asses in the series ;)

    It bums me out that you are a Tigers fan... You are giving us a bad name. With this bullpen we won't make the playoffs.
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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    Jesika537 wrote:
    It bums me out that you are a Tigers fan... You are giving us a bad name. With this bullpen we won't make the playoffs.

    the bullpen will rebound. they're hitting a rough patch after the break. but they will be ready to rock for playoffs. i have faith.
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    lawguylawguy Posts: 257
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Are you kidding? Both those guys are fucking geniuses. Sometimes it seems like there are a grand total of 4 sane people on this message board, surrounded by a legion of idiots.


    I can't help but to think that I am one of the "genisues" you mentioned. I am sorry, but I have just seen a lot of crazy defenses occur in rape trials where people try to blame females for walking home or crap like that. I just equate that thinking with the attacker mentality. They think they would not have raped a girl if she did not walk around alone. It has gotten to the point that is disgusts me. Maybe I need a a change of work.
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    Gary CarterGary Carter Shea Stadium Posts: 13,940
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Are you kidding? Both those guys are fucking geniuses. Sometimes it seems like there are a grand total of 4 sane people on this message board, surrounded by a legion of idiots.
    yes im kidding god doesnt anyone get sarcasm on here these days, do have i have to put hehe or the grin emtioncon to let people know im kidding, fucking christ :rolleyes:
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    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    lawguy wrote:
    As someone said before, one woman was attacked getting out of the cab. It does not matter how much you prepare or try to prevent crime.

    I think we will have to agree to disagree. I see where you are coming from and I always prefer that people know their surroundings, but I don't feel like people, or females specifically, should have to feel that they always have to take a cab three blocks.

    if she'd had a can of mace or a friend with her, she'd have been fine.
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    Jesika537Jesika537 Posts: 301
    the bullpen will rebound. they're hitting a rough patch after the break. but they will be ready to rock for playoffs. i have faith.

    Let's hope so... The bullpen doesn't look so bad when the starters pitch good... Gotta believe they'll be better.
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    hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    the hostility comes from me offering a bit of regular, albeit blunt, common sense and instantly being accused of saying women deserve to be raped.
    The initial post came across as hostile. Lawguy gives a warning to women in general, and suddenly you're talking about drunken fucking idiots.
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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    lawguy wrote:
    I can't help but to think that I am one of the "genisues" you mentioned. I am sorry, but I have just seen a lot of crazy defenses occur in rape trials where people try to blame females for walking home or crap like that. I just equate that thinking with the attacker mentality. They think they would not have raped a girl if she did not walk around alone. It has gotten to the point that is disgusts me. Maybe I need a a change of work.

    state's attorney?

    im not sitting here saying "well with a skirt that short, she was practically begging for it." im just saying dont make things easier for criminals. that means know cities are dangerous, and respond accordingly. i was supporting your heads up. i dont know why everyone thinks i was opposing it.
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    lawguylawguy Posts: 257
    if she'd had a can of mace or a friend with her, she'd have been fine.

    Please. Mace is very overrated. Even if a guy gets stung right in the eyes, it often times makes him angry without slowing him down too much. It is better than nothing though so I guess they should carry though.
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    lawguylawguy Posts: 257
    state's attorney?

    im not sitting here saying "well with a skirt that short, she was practically begging for it." im just saying dont make things easier for criminals. that means know cities are dangerous, and respond accordingly. i was supporting your heads up. i dont know why everyone thinks i was opposing it.


    Yeah, I know you support it. Your original post just came off as a little antagonistic. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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    Gary CarterGary Carter Shea Stadium Posts: 13,940
    lawguy wrote:
    Please. Mace is very overrated. Even if a guy gets stung right in the eyes, it often times makes him angry without slowing him down too much. It is better than nothing though so I guess they should carry though.
    i agree that mace doesnt do anything, mace only last bout 10 seconds on me, my cousing used it on me once as a joke
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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    hippiemom wrote:
    The initial post came across as hostile. Lawguy gives a warning to women in general, and suddenly you're talking about drunken fucking idiots.

    most of my posts are hostile ;)
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    Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    lawguy wrote:
    I can't help but to think that I am one of the "genisues" you mentioned. I am sorry, but I have just seen a lot of crazy defenses occur in rape trials where people try to blame females for walking home or crap like that. I just equate that thinking with the attacker mentality. They think they would not have raped a girl if she did not walk around alone. It has gotten to the point that is disgusts me. Maybe I need a a change of work.


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    Alex_Coe

    Soulsinging

    Cory

    Boston Lou

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    lawguylawguy Posts: 257
    OK, I am out of here. Perhaps some of us can continue this discussion outside the Vic Thursday. And if any of you ladies need a walk home, then let me know :)
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    chikevinchikevin Posts: 421
    have you all ever sat back and really thought about how exhausting you can be when you bust out the soap box?

    the orig. intent of the thread was as a warning.
    that warning should be heard everywhere, not just chicago.

    everyone...be careful.

    now...just get over yourselves. christ...
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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    lawguy wrote:
    Please. Mace is very overrated. Even if a guy gets stung right in the eyes, it often times makes him angry without slowing him down too much. It is better than nothing though so I guess they should carry though.

    fair enough. anyway, be careful ladies, be careful gents, this is the big city. now im going to bed.
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    lawguylawguy Posts: 257
    chikevin wrote:
    have you all ever sat back and really thought about how exhausting you can be when you bust out the soap box?

    the orig. intent of the thread was as a warning.
    that warning should be heard everywhere, not just chicago.

    everyone...be careful.

    now...just get over yourselves. christ...


    Just when I thought I was out, I get sucked back in.

    Ok, this is my last post: I thought these boards were made for discussion and debate. If you are upset by the content or such then go to a different posting or board. I for one love when people discuss their differences out in the open. Perhpas we can all see where each other is coming from and broaden our own horizons a little. Nothing wrong with that in my book.
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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    lawguy wrote:
    OK, I am out of here. Perhaps some of us can continue this discussion outside the Vic Thursday. And if any of you ladies need a walk home, then let me know :)

    how about you walk my gf home and ill escort them ;)

    just so people dont forget im a jackass!

    see you at the vic. ill start badgering you for a job once i finish law school.
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