FYI: Ladies Beware in Chicago

lawguy

Just to give all you out of towners a heads up, there have been several assaults and sexual assaults on women in the Wrigleyville, Lakeview, Lincoln Park area the last week or two. That is where the Vic and Wrigley Field are located. Also, a lot of the most popular bars are in that area of town. If you are a female, then make sure you take a cab late at night or at the very least walk in a group.


EDIT: On a more gender neutral fact, it is also suppose to be upper 90's (98, I think) on Thursday. Be careful if you will be sitting around the vic all day. Bring lots of water and sunscree.

Sorry to be a downer. I am sure everyone will be fine, just be careful. I want everyone to leave Chicago loving it as much as I do

soulsinging

lawguy wrote:

Just to give all you out of towners a heads up, there have been several assaults and sexual assaults on women in the Wrigleyville, Lakeview, Lincoln Park area the last week or two. That is where the Vic and Wrigley Field are located. Also, a lot of the most popular bars are in that area of town. If you are a female, then make sure you take a cab late at night or at the very least walk in a group.

if you are a woman and make a habit of wandering around big cities late at night alone while drunk, you're a fucking idiot.

lawguy

This part of Chicago is historically VERY safe. This stuff rarely happens around there. The bars are right around the residential district. People might only be walking a block or two.

On a side note, it is not that cool to blame victims that they caused it. Why should anyone not be allowed to walk around at night.

Alex_Coe

lawguy wrote:

Just to give all you out of towners a heads up, there have been several assaults and sexual assaults on women in the Wrigleyville, Lakeview, Lincoln Park area the last week or two. That is where the Vic and Wrigley Field are located. Also, a lot of the most popular bars are in that area of town. If you are a female, then make sure you take a cab late at night or at the very least walk in a group.

Oh shit, they're on to me.

*skips town*

soulsinging

lawguy wrote:

This part of Chicago is historically VERY safe. This stuff rarely happens around there. The bars are right around the residential district. People might only be walking a block or two.

On a side note, it is not that cool to blame victims that they caused it. Why should anyone not be allowed to walk around at night.

did i blame anyone? i didnt say you deserve it, i said you're a fucking idiot. id not go wandering the south side screaming "hey bros, where da fried chicken at either!"

know your environment and act accordingly. it's common sense.

Gary Carter

soulsinging wrote:

if you are a woman and make a habit of wandering around big cities late at night alone while drunk, you're a fucking idiot.

i've never met a more narrowminded fucking pig then you are. its beyond me how you fuck girls, they must be dumb fucks.lots of people wonder around the city drunk, i got drunk one time and ended up in harlem at 4:30am.does that make me a fucking moron, no its just that i was drunk and ended up on the wrong train

MasterFramer

soulsinging wrote:

if you are a woman and make a habit of wandering around big cities late at night alone while drunk, you're a fucking idiot.

riiiiight... its their fault... nice...

lawguy

soulsinging wrote:

did i blame anyone? i didnt say you deserve it, i said you're a fucking idiot. id not go wandering the south side screaming "hey bros, where da fried chicken at either!"

know your environment and act accordingly. it's common sense.

That is my point. That enviornment is normally very safe. People walk around there all the time without incident. This appears to be one guy being a serial raper. These females are living their life as they normally would. I don;t think walking home is the same as trying to provoke someone with a stereotype, but that is just me.

chikevin

lawguy wrote:

That is my point. That enviornment is normally very safe. People walk around there all the time without incident. This appears to be one guy being a serial raper. These females are living their life as they normally would. I don;t think walking home is the same as trying to provoke someone with a stereotype, but that is just me.

this is right.

this neighborhood is VERY safe, but they do have a bad guy running around right now.

just stay in a group. if you're drinking...before you get there put 911 in your cell phone just to be safe.

most importantly, be with friends who look out for each other. if someone wanders away...you want people you know looking for you......and that goes for chicago or some small town in whatever state.

soulsinging

metsfan531941 wrote:

i've never met a more narrowminded fucking pig then you are. its beyond me how you fuck girls, they must be dumb fucks.lots of people wonder around the city drunk, i got drunk one time and ended up in harlem at 4:30am.does that make me a fucking moron, no its just that i was drunk and ended up on the wrong train

then maybe you should be more careful about how much you drink.

hippiemom

soulsinging wrote:

if you are a woman and make a habit of wandering around big cities late at night alone while drunk, you're a fucking idiot.

He didn't say anything about "wandering around drunk." It could be someone walking a block or two in what is typically considered a safe neighborhood.

Lawguy, thanks for the heads-up

soulsinging

MasterFramer wrote:

riiiiight... its their fault... nice...

it's not their fault, but that doesnt mean it's not a dumb idea.

soulsinging

hippiemom wrote:

He didn't say anything about "wandering around drunk." It could be someone walking a block or two in what is typically considered a safe neighborhood.

Lawguy, thanks for the heads-up

i read the article. it's "early this morning".... journalistic code for after the bars closed.

Gary Carter

soulsinging wrote:

then maybe you should be more careful about how much you drink.

thanks ill remeber that next time i go out, remind me never to cross paths with you.

lawguy

soulsinging wrote:

it's not their fault, but that doesnt mean it's not a dumb idea.

If that is how we are looking at it, then what isn't a dumb idea? Someone getting attacked in Lakeview happens to maybe .001% of the people that walk home. There is only so much you can do without living your life in a bubble. That being said, I always walk a girl home or at least make sure she gets into a cab. I do know there are a lot of a**holes out there. I would not go so far as to call it a dumb idea to walk home. It IS a dumb idea to walk home now that you know there is someone out there attacking people in Lakeview. THAT IS DUMB.

soulsinging

lawguy wrote:

That is my point. That enviornment is normally very safe. People walk around there all the time without incident. This appears to be one guy being a serial raper. These females are living their life as they normally would. I don;t think walking home is the same as trying to provoke someone with a stereotype, but that is just me.

no there isn't. i read the article. 2 were sexual assaults, 1 was just an attack. by all accounts they were unrelated. it is still the big city and just becos it's gentrified doesn't mean you should toss your common sense out the window.

oh fuck it, who am i kidding. you're all right.

i would like to publicly apologize for being a horrible sexist pig and for blaming victims of rape for their plight. i strongly encourage all young women to walk alone as much as they want after drinking as much as they can stomach. do not worry. if someone attacks you, it is not your fault and there was absolutely nothing you could have done to prevent it.

enjoy chicago.

soulsinging

metsfan531941 wrote:

thanks ill remeber that next time i go out, remind me never to cross paths with you.

might be best. id hate to have to hold you while you cried as my tigers are whoopin your mets' asses in the series

soulsinging

lawguy wrote:

If that is how we are looking at it, then what isn't a dumb idea? Someone getting attacked in Lakeview happens to maybe .001% of the people that walk home. There is only so much you can do without living your life in a bubble. That being said, I always walk a girl home or at least make sure she gets into a cab. I do know there are a lot of a**holes out there. I would not go so far as to call it a dumb idea to walk home. It IS a dumb idea to walk home now that you know there is someone out there attacking people in Lakeview. THAT IS DUMB.

you sexist bastard... you just assume a woman is helpless and needs your protection on her way home?

DarkStar

lawguy wrote:

On a side note, it is not that cool to blame victims that they caused it. Why should anyone not be allowed to walk around at night.

agreed. anyone saying otherwise is the fucking idiot.

ds

lawguy

soulsinging wrote:

no there isn't. i read the article. 2 were sexual assaults, 1 was just an attack. by all accounts they were unrelated. it is still the big city and just becos it's gentrified doesn't mean you should toss your common sense out the window.

oh fuck it, who am i kidding. you're all right.

i would like to publicly apologize for being a horrible sexist pig and for blaming victims of rape for their plight. i strongly encourage all young women to walk alone as much as they want after drinking as much as they can stomach. do not worry. if someone attacks you, it is not your fault and there was absolutely nothing you could have done to prevent it.

enjoy chicago.

I am more offended as a guy that you think there are so many of us out there assaulting women. Again, I prefer women to always have an escort or take a cab. But walking a few blocks at night is not such a horrible thing. Is it ok for a guy to walk home drunk? An armed robber could always come up behind you!!!!!!

tremorvoid

im gonna have to side with conor on this one.

its simple really. use common sense. now is that really asking so much?!

Gary Carter

soulsinging wrote:

might be best. id hate to have to hold you while you cried as my tigers are whoopin your mets' asses in the series

dude me and you both know the tigers and mets arent getting to the world sersis this year. conor your a cool guy, just that more often then not you say off the wall things.

Tangerine

soulsinging wrote:

no there isn't. i read the article. 2 were sexual assaults, 1 was just an attack. by all accounts they were unrelated. it is still the big city and just becos it's gentrified doesn't mean you should toss your common sense out the window.

oh fuck it, who am i kidding. you're all right.

i would like to publicly apologize for being a horrible sexist pig and for blaming victims of rape for their plight. i strongly encourage all young women to walk alone as much as they want after drinking as much as they can stomach. do not worry. if someone attacks you, it is not your fault and there was absolutely nothing you could have done to prevent it.

enjoy chicago.

Gee who wants to vote for the biggest ASS on the board?

So a woman getting drunk gives a guy a right to attack her if she's alone in a city late at night?

Loser!

lawguy

soulsinging wrote:

you sexist bastard... you just assume a woman is helpless and needs your protection on her way home?

No, I also prefer any guy friends to take a cab if they are drunk. However, I personally prefer to date women, so that is who I am out drinking with the majority of time. I am sorry if you only hang out with dudes.

hippiemom

soulsinging wrote:

i read the article. it's "early this morning".... journalistic code for after the bars closed.

I have walked home from bars in my neighborhood while not drunk. It IS possible to spend an evening in a bar and not get trashed ... although if a woman is drunk, I don't see what that has to do with anything. I live in what sounds like a similar area .... it's urban, with a good bit of night life, but considered very safe. I've walked around it for over 30 years without incident, and if I found myself in a similar neighborhood in another city I might do the same, so I thought that the warning was helpful. I don't understand the hostility.

JaneNY

Lawguy, thanks for the heads up. I never drink, but I was planning to go see if I could hear the music from outside the Vic. (with my daughter) I still want to, but not sure we will.

lawguy

JaneNY wrote:

Lawguy, thanks for the heads up. I never drink, but I was planning to go see if I could hear the music from outside the Vic. (with my daughter) I still want to, but not sure we will.

You guys should be fine in front of the Vic, just make sure you cab it home or back to the hotel. the Vic is on a very busy intersection. Someone would have to be the worst criminal in the world to attck there. The attacks have been happening on the residential side streets for the most part.

Alex_Coe

Tangerine wrote:

Gee who wants to vote for the biggest ASS on the board?

Sorry, I would win by a landslide.

Biatch.

soulsinging

lawguy wrote:

I am more offended as a guy that you think there are so many of us out there assaulting women. Again, I prefer women to always have an escort or take a cab. But walking a few blocks at night is not such a horrible thing. Is it ok for a guy to walk home drunk? An armed robber could always come up behind you!!!!!!

he could and you'd lose your wallet. not quite as bad as getting sodomized by a stranger. it's a sad fact that the overwhelming majority of victims of sexual assault are women. in a big city, women should be careful. i wish it weren't the case, but it is.

jesus, when did the world become so pc it encourages rank stupidity?

soulsinging

Tangerine wrote:

Gee who wants to vote for the biggest ASS on the board?

So a woman getting drunk gives a guy a right to attack her if she's alone in a city late at night?

Loser!

id really love to see you find a quote where i say this. please. try it.

Alex_Coe

soulsinging wrote:

jesus, when did the world become so pc it encourages rank stupidity?

My guess is between 1999 and 2003. At least, that's when the PC legions started taking over in my area.