Just a Girl at the Apollo / show #150
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And Death Cab opened up! Yeah, that was the 1st and probably last time they would play the Silver Spurs Rodeo, let alone Kissimmee.Father Hubbard said:
Do tell....Go Animal said:
I've been meaning to ask someone about Kissimmee '04 & how it was. I've always had to shy away from it because I had to make the Judgement of Solomon that night 👀Father Hubbard said:
Thanks for asking! Based on the ole spreadsheet, looks like #50 was in Florida for the Vote for Change tour. #100 was PJ20 (night one), that was a great night.KidsAtPlay said:Father Hubbard said:Happy eve of the tour! At long last, this East Coast run is set to take place. I know...another song request thread, and a ridiculous, near impossibility at that. Afterall, it's only been 11,555 days since Just a Girl was last played, by Mookie Blaylock, and on the West Coast the 2 times it was played on record (thanks livefootsteps.org you're the best). But hey, if they can bust out Evil Little Goat or Out of My Mind anything is possible, maybe?
I am beyond lucky to have won tickets for show by hammering away at the phone lines for weeks back in February 2020 and that the show has been rescheduled (unfortunately I don't have an open +1). I am so grateful for the chance to witness this belated Gigaton celebration at this tiny historic venue. If they were ever to bring it back, I think that is the perfect night to start, with a large PJ-only live audience in person and on air, broadcast for all to hear.
Oh and if things go as planned with Toronto, Apollo will be show #150 for me, so thought I'd sneak that in. What a ride it's been, I can't thank this band enough for all of the joy they have brought me, the friends I have made along the way, the places I have visited, all that jazz. More self indulgent reflection to follow later.
Thanks for reading.
This post had me thinking how certain shows take on special meaning for people for different reasons. Obviously #150 has a "milestone" meaning and made me curious about other ones like #50 and #100 for you. What were those shows?
Coincidentally enough, the Vic was #75, and it's looking like going to have that same group attending the Apollo together. Lucky bastards that we are.
It was pretty awesome. Pretty sure it was the longest show of the tour. Wound up with second row off to the side, it pretty much turned into GA with all the people that crammed in. Timeless Melody was a highlight for sure.
By that time I had seen them 4 times? But the other VFC show in town that night was at the Orlando Arena, and I just couldn't pass it up:
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, R.E.M. & JOHN FOGERTY35 years, 35 shows.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
Had never seen ANY of them before. Bruce/E Street, I'll catch next year. Fogerty? Don't know if he'll come to Florida again. And I'm glad I got to see R.E.M. at least once. It was an amazing night. No regrets, but man... if I could be in 2 places at once 😅Go Animal said:
And Death Cab opened up! Yeah, that was the 1st and probably last time they would play the Silver Spurs Rodeo, let alone Kissimmee.Father Hubbard said:
Do tell....Go Animal said:
I've been meaning to ask someone about Kissimmee '04 & how it was. I've always had to shy away from it because I had to make the Judgement of Solomon that night 👀Father Hubbard said:
Thanks for asking! Based on the ole spreadsheet, looks like #50 was in Florida for the Vote for Change tour. #100 was PJ20 (night one), that was a great night.KidsAtPlay said:Father Hubbard said:Happy eve of the tour! At long last, this East Coast run is set to take place. I know...another song request thread, and a ridiculous, near impossibility at that. Afterall, it's only been 11,555 days since Just a Girl was last played, by Mookie Blaylock, and on the West Coast the 2 times it was played on record (thanks livefootsteps.org you're the best). But hey, if they can bust out Evil Little Goat or Out of My Mind anything is possible, maybe?
I am beyond lucky to have won tickets for show by hammering away at the phone lines for weeks back in February 2020 and that the show has been rescheduled (unfortunately I don't have an open +1). I am so grateful for the chance to witness this belated Gigaton celebration at this tiny historic venue. If they were ever to bring it back, I think that is the perfect night to start, with a large PJ-only live audience in person and on air, broadcast for all to hear.
Oh and if things go as planned with Toronto, Apollo will be show #150 for me, so thought I'd sneak that in. What a ride it's been, I can't thank this band enough for all of the joy they have brought me, the friends I have made along the way, the places I have visited, all that jazz. More self indulgent reflection to follow later.
Thanks for reading.
This post had me thinking how certain shows take on special meaning for people for different reasons. Obviously #150 has a "milestone" meaning and made me curious about other ones like #50 and #100 for you. What were those shows?
Coincidentally enough, the Vic was #75, and it's looking like going to have that same group attending the Apollo together. Lucky bastards that we are.
It was pretty awesome. Pretty sure it was the longest show of the tour. Wound up with second row off to the side, it pretty much turned into GA with all the people that crammed in. Timeless Melody was a highlight for sure.
By that time I had seen them 4 times? But the other VFC show in town that night was at the Orlando Arena, and I just couldn't pass it up:
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, R.E.M. & JOHN FOGERTY
Speaking of seeing things just once & amazing nights, PLEASE PLAY JUST A GIRL AT APOLLO (or MSG), GUYS
🙏 35 years, 35 shows.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
My brother won tickets to that show from a radio station. I should have been his plus one, but I opted to be the good sibling and attend our sisters engagement party considering I was her maid of honor! He flew down to Florida without me.Go Animal said:
Had never seen ANY of them before. Bruce/E Street, I'll catch next year. Fogerty? Don't know if he'll come to Florida again. And I'm glad I got to see R.E.M. at least once. It was an amazing night. No regrets, but man... if I could be in 2 places at once 😅Go Animal said:
And Death Cab opened up! Yeah, that was the 1st and probably last time they would play the Silver Spurs Rodeo, let alone Kissimmee.Father Hubbard said:
Do tell....Go Animal said:
I've been meaning to ask someone about Kissimmee '04 & how it was. I've always had to shy away from it because I had to make the Judgement of Solomon that night 👀Father Hubbard said:
Thanks for asking! Based on the ole spreadsheet, looks like #50 was in Florida for the Vote for Change tour. #100 was PJ20 (night one), that was a great night.KidsAtPlay said:Father Hubbard said:Happy eve of the tour! At long last, this East Coast run is set to take place. I know...another song request thread, and a ridiculous, near impossibility at that. Afterall, it's only been 11,555 days since Just a Girl was last played, by Mookie Blaylock, and on the West Coast the 2 times it was played on record (thanks livefootsteps.org you're the best). But hey, if they can bust out Evil Little Goat or Out of My Mind anything is possible, maybe?
I am beyond lucky to have won tickets for show by hammering away at the phone lines for weeks back in February 2020 and that the show has been rescheduled (unfortunately I don't have an open +1). I am so grateful for the chance to witness this belated Gigaton celebration at this tiny historic venue. If they were ever to bring it back, I think that is the perfect night to start, with a large PJ-only live audience in person and on air, broadcast for all to hear.
Oh and if things go as planned with Toronto, Apollo will be show #150 for me, so thought I'd sneak that in. What a ride it's been, I can't thank this band enough for all of the joy they have brought me, the friends I have made along the way, the places I have visited, all that jazz. More self indulgent reflection to follow later.
Thanks for reading.
This post had me thinking how certain shows take on special meaning for people for different reasons. Obviously #150 has a "milestone" meaning and made me curious about other ones like #50 and #100 for you. What were those shows?
Coincidentally enough, the Vic was #75, and it's looking like going to have that same group attending the Apollo together. Lucky bastards that we are.
It was pretty awesome. Pretty sure it was the longest show of the tour. Wound up with second row off to the side, it pretty much turned into GA with all the people that crammed in. Timeless Melody was a highlight for sure.
By that time I had seen them 4 times? But the other VFC show in town that night was at the Orlando Arena, and I just couldn't pass it up:
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, R.E.M. & JOHN FOGERTY
Speaking of seeing things just once & amazing nights, PLEASE PLAY JUST A GIRL AT APOLLO (or MSG), GUYS
🙏Looking back, I should have skipped out on the party too. Lol. Not like it was the wedding!Good Karma came back for me though and I won Apollo!can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?0 -
The PJ show. Not Bruce.MakeUSmile said:
My brother won tickets to that show from a radio station. I should have been his plus one, but I opted to be the good sibling and attend our sisters engagement party considering I was her maid of honor! He flew down to Florida without me.Go Animal said:
Had never seen ANY of them before. Bruce/E Street, I'll catch next year. Fogerty? Don't know if he'll come to Florida again. And I'm glad I got to see R.E.M. at least once. It was an amazing night. No regrets, but man... if I could be in 2 places at once 😅Go Animal said:
And Death Cab opened up! Yeah, that was the 1st and probably last time they would play the Silver Spurs Rodeo, let alone Kissimmee.Father Hubbard said:
Do tell....Go Animal said:
I've been meaning to ask someone about Kissimmee '04 & how it was. I've always had to shy away from it because I had to make the Judgement of Solomon that night 👀Father Hubbard said:
Thanks for asking! Based on the ole spreadsheet, looks like #50 was in Florida for the Vote for Change tour. #100 was PJ20 (night one), that was a great night.KidsAtPlay said:Father Hubbard said:Happy eve of the tour! At long last, this East Coast run is set to take place. I know...another song request thread, and a ridiculous, near impossibility at that. Afterall, it's only been 11,555 days since Just a Girl was last played, by Mookie Blaylock, and on the West Coast the 2 times it was played on record (thanks livefootsteps.org you're the best). But hey, if they can bust out Evil Little Goat or Out of My Mind anything is possible, maybe?
I am beyond lucky to have won tickets for show by hammering away at the phone lines for weeks back in February 2020 and that the show has been rescheduled (unfortunately I don't have an open +1). I am so grateful for the chance to witness this belated Gigaton celebration at this tiny historic venue. If they were ever to bring it back, I think that is the perfect night to start, with a large PJ-only live audience in person and on air, broadcast for all to hear.
Oh and if things go as planned with Toronto, Apollo will be show #150 for me, so thought I'd sneak that in. What a ride it's been, I can't thank this band enough for all of the joy they have brought me, the friends I have made along the way, the places I have visited, all that jazz. More self indulgent reflection to follow later.
Thanks for reading.
This post had me thinking how certain shows take on special meaning for people for different reasons. Obviously #150 has a "milestone" meaning and made me curious about other ones like #50 and #100 for you. What were those shows?
Coincidentally enough, the Vic was #75, and it's looking like going to have that same group attending the Apollo together. Lucky bastards that we are.
It was pretty awesome. Pretty sure it was the longest show of the tour. Wound up with second row off to the side, it pretty much turned into GA with all the people that crammed in. Timeless Melody was a highlight for sure.
By that time I had seen them 4 times? But the other VFC show in town that night was at the Orlando Arena, and I just couldn't pass it up:
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, R.E.M. & JOHN FOGERTY
Speaking of seeing things just once & amazing nights, PLEASE PLAY JUST A GIRL AT APOLLO (or MSG), GUYS
🙏Looking back, I should have skipped out on the party too. Lol. Not like it was the wedding!Good Karma came back for me though and I won Apollo!can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?0 -
Good karma in the form of ice cream!🍨MakeUSmile said:
My brother won tickets to that show from a radio station. I should have been his plus one, but I opted to be the good sibling and attend our sisters engagement party considering I was her maid of honor! He flew down to Florida without me.Go Animal said:
Had never seen ANY of them before. Bruce/E Street, I'll catch next year. Fogerty? Don't know if he'll come to Florida again. And I'm glad I got to see R.E.M. at least once. It was an amazing night. No regrets, but man... if I could be in 2 places at once 😅Go Animal said:
And Death Cab opened up! Yeah, that was the 1st and probably last time they would play the Silver Spurs Rodeo, let alone Kissimmee.Father Hubbard said:
Do tell....Go Animal said:
I've been meaning to ask someone about Kissimmee '04 & how it was. I've always had to shy away from it because I had to make the Judgement of Solomon that night 👀Father Hubbard said:
Thanks for asking! Based on the ole spreadsheet, looks like #50 was in Florida for the Vote for Change tour. #100 was PJ20 (night one), that was a great night.KidsAtPlay said:Father Hubbard said:Happy eve of the tour! At long last, this East Coast run is set to take place. I know...another song request thread, and a ridiculous, near impossibility at that. Afterall, it's only been 11,555 days since Just a Girl was last played, by Mookie Blaylock, and on the West Coast the 2 times it was played on record (thanks livefootsteps.org you're the best). But hey, if they can bust out Evil Little Goat or Out of My Mind anything is possible, maybe?
I am beyond lucky to have won tickets for show by hammering away at the phone lines for weeks back in February 2020 and that the show has been rescheduled (unfortunately I don't have an open +1). I am so grateful for the chance to witness this belated Gigaton celebration at this tiny historic venue. If they were ever to bring it back, I think that is the perfect night to start, with a large PJ-only live audience in person and on air, broadcast for all to hear.
Oh and if things go as planned with Toronto, Apollo will be show #150 for me, so thought I'd sneak that in. What a ride it's been, I can't thank this band enough for all of the joy they have brought me, the friends I have made along the way, the places I have visited, all that jazz. More self indulgent reflection to follow later.
Thanks for reading.
This post had me thinking how certain shows take on special meaning for people for different reasons. Obviously #150 has a "milestone" meaning and made me curious about other ones like #50 and #100 for you. What were those shows?
Coincidentally enough, the Vic was #75, and it's looking like going to have that same group attending the Apollo together. Lucky bastards that we are.
It was pretty awesome. Pretty sure it was the longest show of the tour. Wound up with second row off to the side, it pretty much turned into GA with all the people that crammed in. Timeless Melody was a highlight for sure.
By that time I had seen them 4 times? But the other VFC show in town that night was at the Orlando Arena, and I just couldn't pass it up:
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, R.E.M. & JOHN FOGERTY
Speaking of seeing things just once & amazing nights, PLEASE PLAY JUST A GIRL AT APOLLO (or MSG), GUYS
🙏Looking back, I should have skipped out on the party too. Lol. Not like it was the wedding!Good Karma came back for me though and I won Apollo!35 years, 35 shows.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
I like that view!MakeUSmile said:
My brother won tickets to that show from a radio station. I should have been his plus one, but I opted to be the good sibling and attend our sisters engagement party considering I was her maid of honor! He flew down to Florida without me.Go Animal said:
Had never seen ANY of them before. Bruce/E Street, I'll catch next year. Fogerty? Don't know if he'll come to Florida again. And I'm glad I got to see R.E.M. at least once. It was an amazing night. No regrets, but man... if I could be in 2 places at once 😅Go Animal said:
And Death Cab opened up! Yeah, that was the 1st and probably last time they would play the Silver Spurs Rodeo, let alone Kissimmee.Father Hubbard said:
Do tell....Go Animal said:
I've been meaning to ask someone about Kissimmee '04 & how it was. I've always had to shy away from it because I had to make the Judgement of Solomon that night 👀Father Hubbard said:
Thanks for asking! Based on the ole spreadsheet, looks like #50 was in Florida for the Vote for Change tour. #100 was PJ20 (night one), that was a great night.KidsAtPlay said:Father Hubbard said:Happy eve of the tour! At long last, this East Coast run is set to take place. I know...another song request thread, and a ridiculous, near impossibility at that. Afterall, it's only been 11,555 days since Just a Girl was last played, by Mookie Blaylock, and on the West Coast the 2 times it was played on record (thanks livefootsteps.org you're the best). But hey, if they can bust out Evil Little Goat or Out of My Mind anything is possible, maybe?
I am beyond lucky to have won tickets for show by hammering away at the phone lines for weeks back in February 2020 and that the show has been rescheduled (unfortunately I don't have an open +1). I am so grateful for the chance to witness this belated Gigaton celebration at this tiny historic venue. If they were ever to bring it back, I think that is the perfect night to start, with a large PJ-only live audience in person and on air, broadcast for all to hear.
Oh and if things go as planned with Toronto, Apollo will be show #150 for me, so thought I'd sneak that in. What a ride it's been, I can't thank this band enough for all of the joy they have brought me, the friends I have made along the way, the places I have visited, all that jazz. More self indulgent reflection to follow later.
Thanks for reading.
This post had me thinking how certain shows take on special meaning for people for different reasons. Obviously #150 has a "milestone" meaning and made me curious about other ones like #50 and #100 for you. What were those shows?
Coincidentally enough, the Vic was #75, and it's looking like going to have that same group attending the Apollo together. Lucky bastards that we are.
It was pretty awesome. Pretty sure it was the longest show of the tour. Wound up with second row off to the side, it pretty much turned into GA with all the people that crammed in. Timeless Melody was a highlight for sure.
By that time I had seen them 4 times? But the other VFC show in town that night was at the Orlando Arena, and I just couldn't pass it up:
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, R.E.M. & JOHN FOGERTY
Speaking of seeing things just once & amazing nights, PLEASE PLAY JUST A GIRL AT APOLLO (or MSG), GUYS
🙏Looking back, I should have skipped out on the party too. Lol. Not like it was the wedding!Good Karma came back for me though and I won Apollo!
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Just going to leave this here before hitting the road for LaGuardia (and Toronto was wonderful).
https://youtu.be/IRF7C2Bmvcs
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Safe travels!Father Hubbard said:Just going to leave this here before hitting the road for LaGuardia (and Toronto was wonderful).
https://youtu.be/IRF7C2Bmvcscan you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?0 -
Yes and Just a Girl is a great song hope the play itFather Hubbard said:
Was it that at the Spectrum where Eddie said they were offered a large donation to charity to play it? Im losing my memory in my old agedanny said:OUT OF MY MIND HELL YEAH
The St Louis Missouri show will be my 27th PJ plus Brad .RNDM in 2012 and 2016.,SoundGarden, 2013 .and 2017 rip Chris. And several Ev shows .
PJ Cuyahoga Flalls OH 8/26/1998
PJ Noblesviile IN 8/18/2000
PJ Cincinnatti OH 8/20/2000
PJ Columbus OH 8/21/2000
PJ Columbus OH 6/24/2003
PJ Hamilton Ontario 9/13/2005
PJ Phiadelphia PA 10/3/2005
PJ Cleveland OH 5/20/2006
PJ Columbia SC 6/16/2008.....
e.V Chicago IL 8/21/2008
e.V Philly PA 6/11/2009
e.V Bailtimore MD 6/14/2009...
PJ Chicago IL 8/23/2009
.PJ...Philly PA 10/27/2009 PJ.Philadephia PA 10/28/2009.
PJ Columbus OH 5/6/2010
PJ Cleveland OH 5/9/2010.
BRAD Columbus OH 10/5/2010
e.V St.Louis MO 7/1/2011
.PJ.. East Troy WI 9/3/2011..PJ..East Troy WI 9/4/2011
Neil Young & Crazy Horse Cleveland OH 10/8/2012
RNDM Chicago IL11/13/2012
Alice In Chains/SoundGarden Columbus OH 5/19/2013
AIC Fort Wayne IN 5/21/2013
PJ Pittsburgh PA 10/11/2013
AIC Cincinnati OH 5/17/2014
AIC Cleveland OH 5/19/2014
AIC Indianapolis IN 8/19/2014
PJ Cincinnati OH 10/1/2014
AIC Cincinnati OH 8/06/2015
RNDM Chicago IL 3/15/2016
PJ Columbia SC 4\21\2016
PJ Lexington KY 4/26/2016
PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2016
Soundgarden Columbus OH 5/20/2017 Canceled RIP Chris
AIC Columbus OH 5/18/2018
PJ Chicago IL 8/18/2018 PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2018
PJ St Louis Missouri 9/18/2022
AIC Cuyohoga falls Oh. 8/16/2019
SHAWNSMITH Rip 2019Mark Lanegan Band 5/18/190 -
Father Hubbard said:Just going to leave this here before hitting the road for LaGuardia (and Toronto was wonderful).
https://youtu.be/IRF7C2Bmvcs
Just came here to confirm that you made it to Toronto. So it's official....Apollo will be show #150. CONGRATS! Looking forward to seeing you there and celebrating this milestone with you.
And just in case someone from Ten Club is monitoring this chat.JJJ UUU UUU SSS TTTTTTT AAA GGGGGG III RRRRRR LLL
JJJ UUU UUU SSS TTT AA AA GGG III RRR R LLL
JJJ UUU UUU SSS TTT AA AA GGG III RRR R LLL
JJJ UU UU SSS TTT AAAAAAA GG GG III RR R LLL
JJJJJJJJ UU UUU SSS TTT AAA AAA GG G III RR R LLLLLLLLLLL
JJJJJJJJ UUUUU SSS TTT AAA AAA GGGGG III RR RR LLLLLLLLLLL
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Those RNDM shows, both tours, were so greattrees said:
Yes and Just a Girl is a great song hope the play itFather Hubbard said:
Was it that at the Spectrum where Eddie said they were offered a large donation to charity to play it? Im losing my memory in my old agedanny said:OUT OF MY MIND HELL YEAH
The St Louis Missouri show will be my 27th PJ plus Brad .RNDM in 2012 and 2016.,SoundGarden, 2013 .and 2017 rip Chris. And several Ev shows .0 -
Happy Apollo Day! Good luck to all getting in!0
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Getting a nice base going…can’t believe the day is here!!0 -
To everyone that gets in have an amazing time. I'll be listening!The wisdom that the old can't give away
How I choose to feel is how I am0 -
Oh my!Jadler said:
Getting a nice base going…can’t believe the day is here!!0 -
Well it was a valiant effort thanks! Pretty epic weekend regardless. See you in Nashville.

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Just heard it driving thru beach traffic...play it somewhere!Fantastic song... how bout in Camden?
1996 - Columbia Maryland, Hartford2000 - Virginia Beach, Camden I+II, Columbia Maryland
1998 - DC RFK Stadium, Virginia Beach, Columbia Maryland, DC Constitution Hall
2002 - Seattle Key Arena I+II
2003 - Raleigh, Charlotte, State College, Bristow, Camden II
2004 - Asheville
2006 - Boston II, Camden I+II, DC
2008 - Virginia Beach, Camden I+II, DC
2009 - Philadelphia I, II, III, IV
2010 - Bristow
2013 - Philadelphia II, Baltimore, Charlottesville, Charlotte
2022 - Camden0
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