if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.
and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in? I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible. Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated. Did he put his dick on a girl? Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.
Did he violate NFL standards? Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail. But you think what you want.
if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
When will the punishment for the Texans be handed down?
Oh wait, the NFL only punishes Black athletes. And you guys are all on board with it.
Tom Brady, Richie Incognito & Sean Payton would like a word.
Fair, however in this case you have the team specifically enabling the Black athlete, yet only the Black man is being punished. Seems about right.
Fans of certain teams have known for some time that there's little to no fairness in how the NFL spins its wheel of justice. The direction in which the wind is blowing plays as much of, if not a bigger, role than the facts themselves.
Welcome to the club, Browns fans.
Yet here we are slamming Watson day after day, and he's forced to settle with the NFL due to the ridiculous CBA, but nary a word about the league.
Again, some of us have known for some time that the league is an old boys club run by duplicitous pieces of shit.
If you're just realizing that now... where have you been?
I don't like American football, or athletic contests of any sort. They are just testosterone filled nonsense.
And btw, I do know and have always known. But if everyone here knows as well, then why are the comments only in one direction?
IDK, maybe it's racism like you said.
Or maybe it's just sports fandom where 31 other teams and fanbases are the enemy.
if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.
and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in? I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible. Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated. Did he put his dick on a girl? Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.
Did he violate NFL standards? Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail. But you think what you want.
I hope your part of his PR team, tasked with going to obscure places on the internet (HERE) And defending him for $
if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.
and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in? I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible. Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated. Did he put his dick on a girl? Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.
Did he violate NFL standards? Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail. But you think what you want.
I hope your part of his PR team, tasked with going to obscure places on the internet (HERE) And defending him for $
Otherwise wtf my man
I believe in redemption. Always have. I also think the NFL has been screwing over certain players for a long time. What Ray Rice did was horrible, but the punishment did not match the crime or the precedent. I think CK got screwed, although now I think he's taking advantage of his situation.
But what I really don't like is overheated rhetoric. So things like "kick out of the league forever" or "put him in jail" will always cause me to react the other way.
Also, I'm from Cleveland.
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if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
Did I say that? Crojam implied that Watson's status as an NFL quarterback saved him here. He has millions of dollars and can afford the best lawyers money can buy. A regular Joe Schmoe without those resources, who's accused of the same thing, will likely end up in jail.
if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.
and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in? I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible. Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated. Did he put his dick on a girl? Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.
Did he violate NFL standards? Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail. But you think what you want.
I hope your part of his PR team, tasked with going to obscure places on the internet (HERE) And defending him for $
Otherwise wtf my man
I believe in redemption. Always have. I also think the NFL has been screwing over certain players for a long time. What Ray Rice did was horrible, but the punishment did not match the crime or the precedent. I think CK got screwed, although now I think he's taking advantage of his situation.
But what I really don't like is overheated rhetoric. So things like "kick out of the league forever" or "put him in jail" will always cause me to react the other way.
Also, I'm from Cleveland.
i also believe, IF any of these woman or ANYBODY makes accusations vs someone....they should PAY ALL LEGAL FEES, $$ for pain & suffering and also see the inside of a jail cell IF FOUND to be full of shit
we have whats called due process...things need to play out. If i was accused and i had his resources, id fight like hell. Most of us DONT....once accused you have to FOLD otherwise risk further penalty & being Bankrupt
I hardly think he was railroaded.....I understand the process DRAGs o, and hes already lost a year of his prime.....but man, keep fighting
if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
Did I say that? Crojam implied that Watson's status as an NFL quarterback saved him here. He has millions of dollars and can afford the best lawyers money can buy. A regular Joe Schmoe without those resources, who's accused of the same thing, will likely end up in jail.
You didn't say anything, that's why I was asking.
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if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.
and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in? I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible. Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated. Did he put his dick on a girl? Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.
Did he violate NFL standards? Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail. But you think what you want.
be interested to see those transcripts and how diligent the DA was in seeking the indictment.
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if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.
and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in? I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible. Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated. Did he put his dick on a girl? Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.
Did he violate NFL standards? Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail. But you think what you want.
be interested to see those transcripts and how diligent the DA was in seeking the indictment.
Grand Jury records are sealed. Any reason to doubt the thoroughness?
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if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.
and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in? I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible. Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated. Did he put his dick on a girl? Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.
Did he violate NFL standards? Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail. But you think what you want.
be interested to see those transcripts and how diligent the DA was in seeking the indictment.
Grand Jury records are sealed. Any reason to doubt the thoroughness?
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
if Watson didnt throw a ball, hed be in jail......so the Race thing doesnt really apply. Maybe spread the 60 woman over a decade, you idiot
That's total bullshit because a Grand Jury failed to indict him more than once. So wait, our system of justice is racist unless the person is an athlete, then it's elitist and no longer racist. Is this right? Do you have an algebraic equation that I can use to plug in the appropriate variable to understand some twisted logic?
I don't know where you live, but in my state hitting on girls and asking for sex or oral sex isn't a crime. Is that illegal in your state? In fact, I am allowed to not only hit on masseurs, but I can hit on waitresses, bartenders, girls at work. And that's not a crime! Tell me about your state.
putting your dick on someones body without consent isnt a crime? A much bigger athlete in a room alone with a 120lb or less woman, yea she really stands a chance.I live in NY, im not a right winger if your suggesting that. I do not discount RACISM, as I know it exists.
and what i cant be against owners & this pc of shit in the world you live in? I live in a different one apparently, they should all fuck off if found responsible. No one gives a shit about a team owner, if they were to be removed....who cares. Same with an athlete, once you cross a line....see ya
Well here's the thing.. they weren't found responsible. Accusations where every girl who is on the case had the same lawyer may sound impressive, or it may sound manipulated. Did he put his dick on a girl? Don't know, but a Grandy Jury whose evidentiary standard is not "beyond a reasonable doubt" had enough doubts to not indict.
Did he violate NFL standards? Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail. But you think what you want.
be interested to see those transcripts and how diligent the DA was in seeking the indictment.
Grand Jury records are sealed. Any reason to doubt the thoroughness?
yes. and the impartiality of the grand jurors.
So no evidence, just a hunch. Sounds like what we hear from the other side of the aisle.
Watson case revives old fight for massage therapy industry
By TERESA M. WALKER
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CLEVELAND (AP) — Michelle Krause still grapples with the challenge of acknowledging she's a massage therapist when she first meets someone, dreading their reaction or misguided comments even after 18 years in the profession.
“It makes you not want to share, so I didn’t,” says the 52-year-old Krause, a former firefighter who made the career change after suffering a neck injury on the job — and getting help in her recovery from massage therapy. “So I would tell people I did nutrition and finance, so that they would not want to talk to me about my work.”
Krause was among hundreds of therapists from across the country who gathered for the American Massage Therapy Association's three-day national convention, which began Thursday. It was an opportunity to talk about a job made more difficult amid the pandemic, the 2021 attack on three Atlanta-area massage businesses in which eight people were killed and the lingering stain of NFL quarterback Deshaun Watson's ongoing case that has perpetuated the sex worker stigma around the industry.
The latter is in their face each day of the conference, which is being held in Cleveland. Watson is now the quarterback for the Browns and his new workplace looms just a block from the convention center and the conference attendees' hotel across the street.
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today, maintains innocence....way to go.
Did he violate NFL standards? Yes, according to the judge, but last time I checked violating NFL standards shouldn't put you in jail. But you think what you want.
IDK, maybe it's racism like you said.
Or maybe it's just sports fandom where 31 other teams and fanbases are the enemy.
Maybe a little bit of both, or neither, idk.
I hope your part of his PR team, tasked with going to obscure places on the internet (HERE) And defending him for $
Otherwise wtf my man
But what I really don't like is overheated rhetoric. So things like "kick out of the league forever" or "put him in jail" will always cause me to react the other way.
Also, I'm from Cleveland.
we have whats called due process...things need to play out. If i was accused and i had his resources, id fight like hell. Most of us DONT....once accused you have to FOLD otherwise risk further penalty & being Bankrupt
I hardly think he was railroaded.....I understand the process DRAGs o, and hes already lost a year of his prime.....but man, keep fighting
be interested to see those transcripts and how diligent the DA was in seeking the indictment.
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yes. and the impartiality of the grand jurors.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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CLEVELAND (AP) — Michelle Krause still grapples with the challenge of acknowledging she's a massage therapist when she first meets someone, dreading their reaction or misguided comments even after 18 years in the profession.
“It makes you not want to share, so I didn’t,” says the 52-year-old Krause, a former firefighter who made the career change after suffering a neck injury on the job — and getting help in her recovery from massage therapy. “So I would tell people I did nutrition and finance, so that they would not want to talk to me about my work.”
Krause was among hundreds of therapists from across the country who gathered for the American Massage Therapy Association's three-day national convention, which began Thursday. It was an opportunity to talk about a job made more difficult amid the pandemic, the 2021 attack on three Atlanta-area massage businesses in which eight people were killed and the lingering stain of NFL quarterback Deshaun Watson's ongoing case that has perpetuated the sex worker stigma around the industry.
The latter is in their face each day of the conference, which is being held in Cleveland. Watson is now the quarterback for the Browns and his new workplace looms just a block from the convention center and the conference attendees' hotel across the street.
continues....
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
The Bills did the right thing in cutting him loose
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I heard about it but never got the depth of it. Holy shit man!?!
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