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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,007
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
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  • TJ25487
    TJ25487 Posts: 1,501
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
  • TJ25487
    TJ25487 Posts: 1,501
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    1. Name one person in jail from Jan 6th who hasn't been charged and arraigned.  One.  

    2. You go to Rykers Island prison for being charged? Name one person in the scenario your described. 

    3. Tell me specifically about where the govt is restricting speech in this country.  


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,007
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    Right. Sure. Because all of the tens of thousands of people who attended the rally on the elipse and marched to the Capitol were arrested. DC has a huge jail capacity or are there Americans in FEMA camps or GITMO?

    Two pretty lame reasons given for overthrowing the government. Good thing we have patriots like Steve O fighting for true ‘Muricans.

    Im pretty sure you’re a conservative too. Welcome, again.
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  • TJ25487
    TJ25487 Posts: 1,501
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    1. Name one person in jail from Jan 6th who hasn't been charged and arraigned.  One.  

    2. You go to Rykers Island prison for being charged? Name one person in the scenario your described. 

    3. Tell me specifically about where the govt is restricting speech in this country.  


    https://www.independentsentinel.com/jan-6-protesters-trespassers-rioters-held-in-solitary-no-bail-some-without-charges/

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/nyc-bodega-worker-jose-alba-charged-in-fatal-stabbing-feared-for-his-life-family-says/

    Big Tech is doing the censoring for the government. Look at all the social media outlets that have banned conservatives. 



  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,016
    in all honesty, in my opinion, if someone was in the capitol that day as part of the insurrection, they should be arrested and held until they are charged. they only want to fight the government until the government decides to fight back.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,016
    at what point to we begin to hold biden accountable for his appointment of garland to the attorney general position?

    sounds like garland will not indict trump in an election year. so i guess the committee is all for nothing.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • TJ25487
    TJ25487 Posts: 1,501
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    Right. Sure. Because all of the tens of thousands of people who attended the rally on the elipse and marched to the Capitol were arrested. DC has a huge jail capacity or are there Americans in FEMA camps or GITMO?

    Two pretty lame reasons given for overthrowing the government. Good thing we have patriots like Steve O fighting for true ‘Muricans.

    Im pretty sure you’re a conservative too. Welcome, again.
    I didn't say we should try and overthrow the government. I just stated what I heard from a former government employee regarding government being corrupt. I agree that not all Jan 6 onlookers got arrested but they sure made sure that several hundred got arrested and made examples out of. So why didn't everybody that were there get arrested? If plenty got arrested that never went into the capital building then why didn't they all get arrested. Because they just needed enough people to make examples out of. 

    The message is: You can go ahead and protest, pillage and plunder, cause major property damage, start fires, beat each other up in your own towns if you feel violated but don't you even think about coming to the capital and challenging our rule. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited July 2022
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    1. Name one person in jail from Jan 6th who hasn't been charged and arraigned.  One.  

    2. You go to Rykers Island prison for being charged? Name one person in the scenario your described. 

    3. Tell me specifically about where the govt is restricting speech in this country.  


    https://www.independentsentinel.com/jan-6-protesters-trespassers-rioters-held-in-solitary-no-bail-some-without-charges/

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/nyc-bodega-worker-jose-alba-charged-in-fatal-stabbing-feared-for-his-life-family-says/

    Big Tech is doing the censoring for the government. Look at all the social media outlets that have banned conservatives. 



    1. The right to a speedy trial (6th Amendment) has been interpreted to mean that you must be charged within 72 hours of being incarcerated.  Nowhere in this article did it say how long these people were in jail before being charged.  Don't you think that's an important point to know before you accuse DC of violating someone's Constitutional rights?  Isn't it weird that this right wing rag left out that information but still managed to compare it to protests in 2020 and use words like "communists" and "anarchists" but couldn't find the time to identify a person that is incarcerated in violation of their civil rights?  Apply critical thinking please. 

    2. Jose Alba is no longer facing charges.  This is how our justice system works.   https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/19/nyregion/jose-alba-bodega-charges-nyc.html

    3. Big tech is censoring for the gov't?  Isn't it weird that Big Tech was refusing to publish radical right wing (not conservative) during TRUMP'S administration?  Are you saying that Trump's people were the ones pushing this?  I doubt it.  I'm sorry you don't agree that private companies get to decide who they platform and de-platform.  

    What about when the Dixie Chicks were banned form country radio?  Should the gov't have forced radio stations to play their music?  Why don't we force Christian radio to play Slayer?  Seems like censorship to me.  
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    Right. Sure. Because all of the tens of thousands of people who attended the rally on the elipse and marched to the Capitol were arrested. DC has a huge jail capacity or are there Americans in FEMA camps or GITMO?

    Two pretty lame reasons given for overthrowing the government. Good thing we have patriots like Steve O fighting for true ‘Muricans.

    Im pretty sure you’re a conservative too. Welcome, again.
    I didn't say we should try and overthrow the government. I just stated what I heard from a former government employee regarding government being corrupt. I agree that not all Jan 6 onlookers got arrested but they sure made sure that several hundred got arrested and made examples out of. So why didn't everybody that were there get arrested? If plenty got arrested that never went into the capital building then why didn't they all get arrested. Because they just needed enough people to make examples out of. 

    The message is: You can go ahead and protest, pillage and plunder, cause major property damage, start fires, beat each other up in your own towns if you feel violated but don't you even think about coming to the capital and challenging our rule. 
    I like reading "conservative" apologies for coup attempts.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,007
    edited July 2022
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    Right. Sure. Because all of the tens of thousands of people who attended the rally on the elipse and marched to the Capitol were arrested. DC has a huge jail capacity or are there Americans in FEMA camps or GITMO?

    Two pretty lame reasons given for overthrowing the government. Good thing we have patriots like Steve O fighting for true ‘Muricans.

    Im pretty sure you’re a conservative too. Welcome, again.
    I didn't say we should try and overthrow the government. I just stated what I heard from a former government employee regarding government being corrupt. I agree that not all Jan 6 onlookers got arrested but they sure made sure that several hundred got arrested and made examples out of. So why didn't everybody that were there get arrested? If plenty got arrested that never went into the capital building then why didn't they all get arrested. Because they just needed enough people to make examples out of. 

    The message is: You can go ahead and protest, pillage and plunder, cause major property damage, start fires, beat each other up in your own towns if you feel violated but don't you even think about coming to the capital and challenging our rule. 
    I’ll let you tell us all how many BLM and/or Antiiiiiifa protesters were arrested, charged, fined and jailed during the civil unrest that occurred after George Floyd and other blacks were murdered by the police. Let us know what that number is, okay? I’ll give you a hint, it’s more than 1 and less that 10,000.

    To answer your question, the Capitol in the interest of charges is not Washington, DC but rather the Capitol complex, a defined area within the city, which includes the Capitol building and house and senate office buildings, not all of which was closed or off limits. However, sections were closed and off limits and if you crossed the line into the closed areas, mostly those areas that were ringed with police barriers, you were charged with trespassing and maybe failure to disperse. If you threw objects, struck law enforcement officers and entered into any of the interior spaces, you were charged with more serious felonies. If you carried or possessed weapons, including spears or firearms, the charges became more severe and were exacerbated by DCs strict firearm laws. How many insurrectionists were arrested and charged versus the number of civil rights protesters?

    I won’t hold my breath for an answer and for the record, you and I are not on the same side.

    I can specifically point to a BLM protester who received 3 years in prison for torching an empty police car. Sure, that’s the message, no consequences outside of DC. Must be a lot of shit going down in DC with our prisons and jails as full as they are.
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  • mickeyrat
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    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    1. Name one person in jail from Jan 6th who hasn't been charged and arraigned.  One.  

    2. You go to Rykers Island prison for being charged? Name one person in the scenario your described. 

    3. Tell me specifically about where the govt is restricting speech in this country.  


    https://www.independentsentinel.com/jan-6-protesters-trespassers-rioters-held-in-solitary-no-bail-some-without-charges/

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/nyc-bodega-worker-jose-alba-charged-in-fatal-stabbing-feared-for-his-life-family-says/

    Big Tech is doing the censoring for the government. Look at all the social media outlets that have banned conservatives. 




    your first link. article posted may 17 of 2021. ummm jan to may is less than 5 months so your 18 months is bullshit. further, how about you find an inmate list with dates of arrest and confinement along with current case disposition.

    cmon dude, some of us pay attention to finer details.....
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    Just make up shit and exaggerate. It works at happy hour in rural America so why not every where?

    Also, I like that there's a defense of stand your ground against unarmed fellow asshole civilians. Letting Alba off is one more example of how fucked up things are. Bullying and intimidation now means you're justified to stab someone 5 times and kill them. Looks like the Bernie Goetz effect is still good for NY. I imagine Alba will be found responsible if there's a civil suit though.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    tbergs said:
    Just make up shit and exaggerate. It works at happy hour in rural America so why not every where?

    Also, I like that there's a defense of stand your ground against unarmed fellow asshole civilians. Letting Alba off is one more example of how fucked up things are. Bullying and intimidation now means you're justified to stab someone 5 times and kill them. Looks like the Bernie Goetz effect is still good for NY. I imagine Alba will be found responsible if there's a civil suit though.
    Charges were dropped. Good thing I didn’t storm the Capitol for that grave injustice.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Dear god I can't believe people still push this crap. Both sides are clearly not equally corrupt. 

    Big government are the people that we elect. And your friends son in law is likely a tRumpster pushing a bullshit line. It's always the friends son in law that has the revealing info that we aren't privy to.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    1. Name one person in jail from Jan 6th who hasn't been charged and arraigned.  One.  

    2. You go to Rykers Island prison for being charged? Name one person in the scenario your described. 

    3. Tell me specifically about where the govt is restricting speech in this country.  


    https://www.independentsentinel.com/jan-6-protesters-trespassers-rioters-held-in-solitary-no-bail-some-without-charges/

    https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/nyc-bodega-worker-jose-alba-charged-in-fatal-stabbing-feared-for-his-life-family-says/

    Big Tech is doing the censoring for the government. Look at all the social media outlets that have banned conservatives. 



    Conservatives get banned because they push bullshit.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    Right. Sure. Because all of the tens of thousands of people who attended the rally on the elipse and marched to the Capitol were arrested. DC has a huge jail capacity or are there Americans in FEMA camps or GITMO?

    Two pretty lame reasons given for overthrowing the government. Good thing we have patriots like Steve O fighting for true ‘Muricans.

    Im pretty sure you’re a conservative too. Welcome, again.
    I didn't say we should try and overthrow the government. I just stated what I heard from a former government employee regarding government being corrupt. I agree that not all Jan 6 onlookers got arrested but they sure made sure that several hundred got arrested and made examples out of. So why didn't everybody that were there get arrested? If plenty got arrested that never went into the capital building then why didn't they all get arrested. Because they just needed enough people to make examples out of. 

    The message is: You can go ahead and protest, pillage and plunder, cause major property damage, start fires, beat each other up in your own towns if you feel violated but don't you even think about coming to the capital and challenging our rule. 
    All of those things you mentioned are right wing drivel. None of those things need to be revealed by a friends son in law that was formerly an FBI agent for fucks sake.
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  • mrussel1
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    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    now let's imagine the reaction from the right if this had been Obama or Biden's SS....fucking insane
    Yeah and if any of those phones come up smashed or soaked in bleach bit there will be hell to pay! Unless your name is Hilary. 
    Or Shrub and 44 million emails related to the origins of the Iraq War. You know the one. Because of Saddam’s complicity in 9/11.
    My friend. We are on the same team. Both sides are as corrupt as the day is long. I couldn't stand Bush. Actually voted for Obama. 
    We are all being played by big government, globalists, big tech, big pharma, big oil etc. They all love to see all of the infighting we are doing with each other. As long as we are distracted on each other we won't focus on them. A friend of mines son in law just retired from the FBI out of Washington. He said that if Americans knew only 5% of what goes on in Washington that we would take up arms and march to the capital for a real revolt. Not like on Jan. 6th where there was no guns other than the police. Oh wait I guess that guy in the buffalo hat did have a stick. 
    Oh scary globalists, big tech and big oil.  Tell me about the 5% that would make me take up arms.  I'm only 90 minutes away from DC.  Tell me about what is happening that would make me throw away my job, my family, my comfortable home, cars and spiral the economy like a civil war would do.  Please.  Give me concrete examples of what is happening in DC, a quick drive for me, that would make me so angry I'd decide war is better.  
    I'll give you 2 examples. If you happened to be walking by the capital building on Jan 6th and got too close to it you could be sitting in prison for the last year and a half with no charges or no hearing date. 

    If you are a store owner in NY and someone comes in to rob you and assault you and you end up killing them in self defense you could end up in Ryker's Island charged for murder. 

    Also, look at all of the freedom of speech that is being censored. Just because it is in your favor now doesn't mean it will always be. 

    Right. Sure. Because all of the tens of thousands of people who attended the rally on the elipse and marched to the Capitol were arrested. DC has a huge jail capacity or are there Americans in FEMA camps or GITMO?

    Two pretty lame reasons given for overthrowing the government. Good thing we have patriots like Steve O fighting for true ‘Muricans.

    Im pretty sure you’re a conservative too. Welcome, again.
    I didn't say we should try and overthrow the government. I just stated what I heard from a former government employee regarding government being corrupt. I agree that not all Jan 6 onlookers got arrested but they sure made sure that several hundred got arrested and made examples out of. So why didn't everybody that were there get arrested? If plenty got arrested that never went into the capital building then why didn't they all get arrested. Because they just needed enough people to make examples out of. 

    The message is: You can go ahead and protest, pillage and plunder, cause major property damage, start fires, beat each other up in your own towns if you feel violated but don't you even think about coming to the capital and challenging our rule. 
    All of those things you mentioned are right wing drivel. None of those things need to be revealed by a friends son in law that was formerly an FBI agent for fucks sake.
    Ha, I know.  I was thinking the same.  Where's my 5% secret information that is going to make me revolt?  Hilarious.  These right wingers are all the same.  Zero critical thinking skills, and just pass around the same old nonsense.