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Gern Blansten said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:“Some other cultural issues.”
What’s virtual signaling again? Lil help here.
And shit...I forgot Guns....not sure how I forgot that issue. Way too many conservatives have been scared into thinking common sense laws are an infringement on their rights and can't get past it.
Have you looked at some of the questions in those math textbooks? They were clearly there to drive an agenda, and it wasn't math. For the most part I think people complaining about that are out of line and taking it too far, but there are clear examples for me that are driving a political agenda through a freakin math problem. It's probably a really small % but I hate that it gave any credibility to the complaint.
While you view it as “driving an agenda,” I view it as just more lame faux outrage to rally the masses. Like some kid is going to decide they’re gay or feel guilty about their race because of a math word problem. How do you drive an agenda with a small %?hippiemom = goodness0 -
Found it: If Silent Bob sucks 37 dicks but doesn't swallow, does that mean he's gay?I SAW PEARL JAM0
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/04/21/4-math-textbook-problems-florida-prohibited/
Here are some. This was one that made me wonder why it was chosen. Again, I personally don;t care but trying to put myself in someone else's thought process.hippiemom = goodness0 -
And I think it would be different in a different class where you were actually discussing the issue raised.hippiemom = goodness0
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dankind said:Found it: If Silent Bob sucks 37 dicks but doesn't swallow, does that mean he's gay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9QnfHRtlt8
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cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:“Some other cultural issues.”
What’s virtual signaling again? Lil help here.
And shit...I forgot Guns....not sure how I forgot that issue. Way too many conservatives have been scared into thinking common sense laws are an infringement on their rights and can't get past it.
Have you looked at some of the questions in those math textbooks? They were clearly there to drive an agenda, and it wasn't math. For the most part I think people complaining about that are out of line and taking it too far, but there are clear examples for me that are driving a political agenda through a freakin math problem. It's probably a really small % but I hate that it gave any credibility to the complaint.
While you view it as “driving an agenda,” I view it as just more lame faux outrage to rally the masses. Like some kid is going to decide they’re gay or feel guilty about their race because of a math word problem. How do you drive an agenda with a small %?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:“Some other cultural issues.”
What’s virtual signaling again? Lil help here.
And shit...I forgot Guns....not sure how I forgot that issue. Way too many conservatives have been scared into thinking common sense laws are an infringement on their rights and can't get past it.
Have you looked at some of the questions in those math textbooks? They were clearly there to drive an agenda, and it wasn't math. For the most part I think people complaining about that are out of line and taking it too far, but there are clear examples for me that are driving a political agenda through a freakin math problem. It's probably a really small % but I hate that it gave any credibility to the complaint.
While you view it as “driving an agenda,” I view it as just more lame faux outrage to rally the masses. Like some kid is going to decide they’re gay or feel guilty about their race because of a math word problem. How do you drive an agenda with a small %?
No that won't turn them gay but it would be a good tool for a teacher to use if they wanted to groom them into it.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:“Some other cultural issues.”
What’s virtual signaling again? Lil help here.
And shit...I forgot Guns....not sure how I forgot that issue. Way too many conservatives have been scared into thinking common sense laws are an infringement on their rights and can't get past it.
Have you looked at some of the questions in those math textbooks? They were clearly there to drive an agenda, and it wasn't math. For the most part I think people complaining about that are out of line and taking it too far, but there are clear examples for me that are driving a political agenda through a freakin math problem. It's probably a really small % but I hate that it gave any credibility to the complaint.
While you view it as “driving an agenda,” I view it as just more lame faux outrage to rally the masses. Like some kid is going to decide they’re gay or feel guilty about their race because of a math word problem. How do you drive an agenda with a small %?
Personally if it's fact based, don't care much.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:“Some other cultural issues.”
What’s virtual signaling again? Lil help here.
And shit...I forgot Guns....not sure how I forgot that issue. Way too many conservatives have been scared into thinking common sense laws are an infringement on their rights and can't get past it.
Have you looked at some of the questions in those math textbooks? They were clearly there to drive an agenda, and it wasn't math. For the most part I think people complaining about that are out of line and taking it too far, but there are clear examples for me that are driving a political agenda through a freakin math problem. It's probably a really small % but I hate that it gave any credibility to the complaint.
While you view it as “driving an agenda,” I view it as just more lame faux outrage to rally the masses. Like some kid is going to decide they’re gay or feel guilty about their race because of a math word problem. How do you drive an agenda with a small %?
No that won't turn them gay but it would be a good tool for a teacher to use if they wanted to groom them into it.0 -
TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:“Some other cultural issues.”
What’s virtual signaling again? Lil help here.
And shit...I forgot Guns....not sure how I forgot that issue. Way too many conservatives have been scared into thinking common sense laws are an infringement on their rights and can't get past it.
Have you looked at some of the questions in those math textbooks? They were clearly there to drive an agenda, and it wasn't math. For the most part I think people complaining about that are out of line and taking it too far, but there are clear examples for me that are driving a political agenda through a freakin math problem. It's probably a really small % but I hate that it gave any credibility to the complaint.
While you view it as “driving an agenda,” I view it as just more lame faux outrage to rally the masses. Like some kid is going to decide they’re gay or feel guilty about their race because of a math word problem. How do you drive an agenda with a small %?
No that won't turn them gay but it would be a good tool for a teacher to use if they wanted to groom them into it.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:cincybearcat said:Halifax2TheMax said:“Some other cultural issues.”
What’s virtual signaling again? Lil help here.
And shit...I forgot Guns....not sure how I forgot that issue. Way too many conservatives have been scared into thinking common sense laws are an infringement on their rights and can't get past it.
Have you looked at some of the questions in those math textbooks? They were clearly there to drive an agenda, and it wasn't math. For the most part I think people complaining about that are out of line and taking it too far, but there are clear examples for me that are driving a political agenda through a freakin math problem. It's probably a really small % but I hate that it gave any credibility to the complaint.
While you view it as “driving an agenda,” I view it as just more lame faux outrage to rally the masses. Like some kid is going to decide they’re gay or feel guilty about their race because of a math word problem. How do you drive an agenda with a small %?
No that won't turn them gay but it would be a good tool for a teacher to use if they wanted to groom them into it.0 -
Oh the horror! Boo! And identified during the review process to boot. Good thing gubner Deathsantis gets up early.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/22/us/florida-math-textbooks-critical-race-theory-examples/index.html
Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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In the immortal words of Michael Jackson: "CRT! It's as easy as 1,2,3! CRT! Baby you and me!0
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Halifax2TheMax said:Oh the horror! Boo! And identified during the review process to boot. Good thing gubner Deathsantis gets up early.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/22/us/florida-math-textbooks-critical-race-theory-examples/index.html0 -
TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Oh the horror! Boo! And identified during the review process to boot. Good thing gubner Deathsantis gets up early.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/22/us/florida-math-textbooks-critical-race-theory-examples/index.html09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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You say future POTUS, I say current Piece of Garbage.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Oh the horror! Boo! And identified during the review process to boot. Good thing gubner Deathsantis gets up early.
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TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Oh the horror! Boo! And identified during the review process to boot. Good thing gubner Deathsantis gets up early.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/22/us/florida-math-textbooks-critical-race-theory-examples/index.html09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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i hope trump runs again so he can lose the popular vote 3 times in a row."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:TJ25487 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Oh the horror! Boo! And identified during the review process to boot. Good thing gubner Deathsantis gets up early.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/22/us/florida-math-textbooks-critical-race-theory-examples/index.html
OMG! How did a conservative sneak onto this message board??? (waits for the backlash from the masses)0
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