Why has PJ never toured with STP?

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  • walkthamile
    walkthamile Posts: 349
    AiCPearlJamWeen wrote:
    Actually I have heard a couple radio show hosts say that Ed and PJ are a rip-off of the Doors and the Who.
    I never really 'got' all that "Ed sounds a little like Morrison" stuff that was being thrown around back in the day.

    See, what actually happens is when people hear a vocalist come out and capture some attention with unique kind of vocal, the automatic reaction is to "LOOK" for something vaguely similar. People do this to make "sense" of the world that they live in!

    Weiland, on the other hand, sounded a lot more like Ed on Core than Ed ever sounded like Morrison.
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  • walkthamile
    walkthamile Posts: 349
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    Oh and Dean DeLeo is a better guitar player than Stone.

    Oh really, how do you measure that??
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  • sailboatcaptain
    sailboatcaptain San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 251
    noodles_jefferson wrote:
    Weiland is a total poser. the guy went through several incarnations before "grunge" got popular and he decided to be "grunge". at one point before that he was doing a Duran Duran type thing. like Anthony Kiedis says, "choose not a life of imitation"

    you are kidding me, did he really sang Duran Duran?
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    noodles_jefferson wrote:
    Weiland is a total poser. the guy went through several incarnations before "grunge" got popular and he decided to be "grunge". at one point before that he was doing a Duran Duran type thing. like Anthony Kiedis says, "choose not a life of imitation"

    Have you heard some of Bad Radio's stuff?
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  • Mohab
    Mohab Posts: 310
    Stp is awesome, all records wroth owning, It would be a great pair but not going to happen, a lot of people claiming to know stp and hate them probably got lost when someone mentioned glide, altlanta adhesive and will doubtlessly find names like silvergunsuperman kitchenware and candy bars and so i know, regeneration, bi polar bear, 12 bar blues, sin and prunu unfamiliar, while pilots fans know better.

    great grunge style rock band, how old is the music writer claiming to be an expert authority on rock I wonder, to think pearl jam sounds unlike anything anyone ever heard and stp are somehow unique in debuting albums that are derivitive?, not that this neccesarily makes bad rock and roll in any way.
  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    This would only happen on seperate nights of a music festival.

    But it would be a festival I'd defiantly attend.
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  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Remember when Weiland used to get pissed off about the PJ comparison when Core came out.

    I think he was pissed off at Headbanger's Ball VJ who mentioned the similarity and STP cancel their appearance...I'm too sure if that's true.
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,887
    I really like a ton of STP songs.

    However, from what I gather, it seems like Weiland has continued being a loose cannon on their current tour and its only a matter of time before the wheels fall off. PJ probably would like some sort of stability if they are going to book a tour.

    After watchingTed Leo and the Pharmacists, I wouldnt mind seeing them with a longer set though. My favorite opening band Ive seen for PJ.
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    PJ would make STP look really bad if they played on the same night. And this is coming from a huge fan of STP. There just isn't any comparison though- STP has only two really good albums and basically only plays the hits.
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  • walkunafraid
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    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    PJ would make STP look really bad if they played on the same night. And this is coming from a huge fan of STP. There just isn't any comparison though- STP has only two really good albums and basically only plays the hits.

    Agreed, although I would argue that STP has 3 really good albums:

    Core -- their first and most well known, with some very solid songs like Plush, Dead and Bloated, and Sex Type Thing;

    Purple -- a redirection in a big way, similar to how PJ changed paths with No Code (except this was only STP's second album); probably their best, and definitely one of the most underrated albums of the 90's; some amazing tracks such as Interstate Love Song, Still Remains, and Pretty Penny;

    Tiny Music...Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop -- another VASTLY underrated album; this is certainly their most artsy and experimental album, with some killer pop songs like Big Bang Baby, Adhesive Love, Lady Picture Show, and Trippin' on a Hole in a Paper Heart.

    Didn't care for anything of theirs after that, but still, there's enough good stuff on those three albums to put on an awesome show.

    Definitely no comparison to Pearl Jam in terms of overall career success or breadth of great music, but they're nowhere near the Creed or Nickelback comparison some made earlier, either.
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  • The_Fixer
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    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    the Deleo brothers are excellent musicians and songwriters. Creed never wrote anything that even approaches the majesty of Glide, Atlanta or Adhesive.

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  • kineticjam
    kineticjam Posts: 154
    STP is a good band. Love their music. They play the same fucking set every night. I've seen them 3 times. They don't even compare to the feeling I get when I go to a PJ show. Oh and Weiland is a dick.
  • ealasaid76
    ealasaid76 Posts: 95
    DO NOT lump them in with Creed, please.

    I saw STP twice...liked them both times.

    That comment about Slash? Wasn't he a drug addict too, at one time? I think that's hypocritical.

    PJ will always be my number one band, but I love STP too.
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  • azwyldcats
    azwyldcats Posts: 711
    Joe2TheRevenge wrote:
    They could call it "The greatest tour ever"

    Because it would be.

    Imagine Ed and Scott trading vocals on a mutually-loved Doors song. It would be as epic as Hunger Strike.

    Ahhhh well, at least i can dream.

    Because Eddie Vedder and the gang don't have the time nor the inclination to babysit the tool that is Weiland.
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  • not4u
    not4u Posts: 512
    i wouldn't really want to see it. STP is a good band but Weiland has more of a carrer now of being a tabloid headliner than a singer... I believe more than half of the news on him is fake simply to keep his carrer and what ever band he's in still in the spotlight...
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