No they're not. They aren't to PJ's level but I'll take their classic riffage over the crap that passes for rock & roll these days. Oh and Dean DeLeo is a better guitar player than Stone.
but Stone's dad is bigger than Dean DeLeo's dad...
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Fan of both - though PJ much more than STP - but wouldn't want to see them both together. Seems like there are always problems when there are two big bands on one bill. Plus, having a band like KOL or Ted Leo + Pharmacists open is nice since it gives them a lot of exposure. I have a feeling if STP and PJ played a show we wouldn't get full sets and encores from either and it would result in a lot of bitching.
No they're not. They aren't to PJ's level but I'll take their classic riffage over the crap that passes for rock & roll these days. Oh and Dean DeLeo is a better guitar player than Stone.
note that you are comparing them to rock & roll these days. i'm talking about the 90's. in the 90's seattle took off. i'd say the 4 biggest bands then were nirvana, pearl jam, soundgarden and alice in chains. the pumpkins got lumped into the group even though they were from chicago. a year later after a few million records were sold by eddie and crew, stp came out.
distorted "grungey" guitars. deep brooding voice. at the time it seemed to me at least to be another major label rip off of a popular sound. it fell into the category of fashion shows with people wearing flannel shirts and the like...
take this from wikipedia...
"Despite commercial success, the music press criticized the band as grunge imitators. Weiland told Entertainment Weekly in 2008, "It was really painful in the beginning because I just assumed that the critics would understand where we were coming from, that these just weren't dumb rock songs." In a January 1994 Rolling Stone poll, the band was simultaneously voted Best New Band by Rolling Stone's readers and Worst New Band by the magazine's music critics.[10] "
distorted "grungey" guitars. deep brooding voice. at the time it seemed to me at least to be another major label rip off of a popular sound. it fell into the category of fashion shows with people wearing flannel shirts and the like...
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To STP's credit, they pulled away from that pretty early on. Weiland even went out of his way to change his singing voice, so as to distance himself from the Pearl Jams of the world.
Purple -- STP's second album, and one of the best album's of the 90s -- sounds almost nothing like Core, STP's debut.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
Stone Temple Pilots and Pearl Jam touring together would be awesome. Let's git 'er done.
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Pearl Jam (Ed mostly) would problably rather pair up with "The Who" or "Neil Young" at this stage in their career. They have been a band for nearly 20 years, their more like classic rock than "grunge", or atleast to me they are. They already opened up for Tom Petty which is cool.
Imagine Ed and Scott trading vocals on a mutually-loved Doors song. It would be as epic as Hunger Strike.
Ahhhh well, at least i can dream.
Greatest tour ever...I don't think so, there are plenty of bands out there that would make it a dream tour with PJ.
But it would be interesting to see maybe one show... like a benefit or something... but tour...fuck no...
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Actually I have heard a couple radio show hosts say that Ed and PJ are a rip-off of the Doors and the Who.
I never really 'got' all that "Ed sounds a little like Morrison" stuff that was being thrown around back in the day.
See, what actually happens is when people hear a vocalist come out and capture some attention with unique kind of vocal, the automatic reaction is to "LOOK" for something vaguely similar. People do this to make "sense" of the world that they live in!
Weiland, on the other hand, sounded a lot more like Ed on Core than Ed ever sounded like Morrison.
Weiland is a total poser. the guy went through several incarnations before "grunge" got popular and he decided to be "grunge". at one point before that he was doing a Duran Duran type thing. like Anthony Kiedis says, "choose not a life of imitation"
you are kidding me, did he really sang Duran Duran?
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Weiland is a total poser. the guy went through several incarnations before "grunge" got popular and he decided to be "grunge". at one point before that he was doing a Duran Duran type thing. like Anthony Kiedis says, "choose not a life of imitation"
Have you heard some of Bad Radio's stuff?
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
Stp is awesome, all records wroth owning, It would be a great pair but not going to happen, a lot of people claiming to know stp and hate them probably got lost when someone mentioned glide, altlanta adhesive and will doubtlessly find names like silvergunsuperman kitchenware and candy bars and so i know, regeneration, bi polar bear, 12 bar blues, sin and prunu unfamiliar, while pilots fans know better.
great grunge style rock band, how old is the music writer claiming to be an expert authority on rock I wonder, to think pearl jam sounds unlike anything anyone ever heard and stp are somehow unique in debuting albums that are derivitive?, not that this neccesarily makes bad rock and roll in any way.
This would only happen on seperate nights of a music festival.
But it would be a festival I'd defiantly attend.
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However, from what I gather, it seems like Weiland has continued being a loose cannon on their current tour and its only a matter of time before the wheels fall off. PJ probably would like some sort of stability if they are going to book a tour.
After watchingTed Leo and the Pharmacists, I wouldnt mind seeing them with a longer set though. My favorite opening band Ive seen for PJ.
PJ would make STP look really bad if they played on the same night. And this is coming from a huge fan of STP. There just isn't any comparison though- STP has only two really good albums and basically only plays the hits.
PJ would make STP look really bad if they played on the same night. And this is coming from a huge fan of STP. There just isn't any comparison though- STP has only two really good albums and basically only plays the hits.
Agreed, although I would argue that STP has 3 really good albums:
Core -- their first and most well known, with some very solid songs like Plush, Dead and Bloated, and Sex Type Thing;
Purple -- a redirection in a big way, similar to how PJ changed paths with No Code (except this was only STP's second album); probably their best, and definitely one of the most underrated albums of the 90's; some amazing tracks such as Interstate Love Song, Still Remains, and Pretty Penny;
Tiny Music...Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop -- another VASTLY underrated album; this is certainly their most artsy and experimental album, with some killer pop songs like Big Bang Baby, Adhesive Love, Lady Picture Show, and Trippin' on a Hole in a Paper Heart.
Didn't care for anything of theirs after that, but still, there's enough good stuff on those three albums to put on an awesome show.
Definitely no comparison to Pearl Jam in terms of overall career success or breadth of great music, but they're nowhere near the Creed or Nickelback comparison some made earlier, either.
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the Deleo brothers are excellent musicians and songwriters. Creed never wrote anything that even approaches the majesty of Glide, Atlanta or Adhesive.
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STP is a good band. Love their music. They play the same fucking set every night. I've seen them 3 times. They don't even compare to the feeling I get when I go to a PJ show. Oh and Weiland is a dick.
Imagine Ed and Scott trading vocals on a mutually-loved Doors song. It would be as epic as Hunger Strike.
Ahhhh well, at least i can dream.
Because Eddie Vedder and the gang don't have the time nor the inclination to babysit the tool that is Weiland.
And I'm not living this life without you, I'm selfish and clear
And you're not leaving here without me, I don't wanna be without
My best... friend. Wake up, to see you could have it all
i wouldn't really want to see it. STP is a good band but Weiland has more of a carrer now of being a tabloid headliner than a singer... I believe more than half of the news on him is fake simply to keep his carrer and what ever band he's in still in the spotlight...
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but Stone's dad is bigger than Dean DeLeo's dad...
note that you are comparing them to rock & roll these days. i'm talking about the 90's. in the 90's seattle took off. i'd say the 4 biggest bands then were nirvana, pearl jam, soundgarden and alice in chains. the pumpkins got lumped into the group even though they were from chicago. a year later after a few million records were sold by eddie and crew, stp came out.
distorted "grungey" guitars. deep brooding voice. at the time it seemed to me at least to be another major label rip off of a popular sound. it fell into the category of fashion shows with people wearing flannel shirts and the like...
take this from wikipedia...
"Despite commercial success, the music press criticized the band as grunge imitators. Weiland told Entertainment Weekly in 2008, "It was really painful in the beginning because I just assumed that the critics would understand where we were coming from, that these just weren't dumb rock songs." In a January 1994 Rolling Stone poll, the band was simultaneously voted Best New Band by Rolling Stone's readers and Worst New Band by the magazine's music critics.[10] "
To STP's credit, they pulled away from that pretty early on. Weiland even went out of his way to change his singing voice, so as to distance himself from the Pearl Jams of the world.
Purple -- STP's second album, and one of the best album's of the 90s -- sounds almost nothing like Core, STP's debut.
for the least they could possibly do
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Greatest tour ever...I don't think so, there are plenty of bands out there that would make it a dream tour with PJ.
But it would be interesting to see maybe one show... like a benefit or something... but tour...fuck no...
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Sense of humor's void and numb
And I'm bored to tears.......
See, what actually happens is when people hear a vocalist come out and capture some attention with unique kind of vocal, the automatic reaction is to "LOOK" for something vaguely similar. People do this to make "sense" of the world that they live in!
Weiland, on the other hand, sounded a lot more like Ed on Core than Ed ever sounded like Morrison.
Oh really, how do you measure that??
you are kidding me, did he really sang Duran Duran?
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Have you heard some of Bad Radio's stuff?
great grunge style rock band, how old is the music writer claiming to be an expert authority on rock I wonder, to think pearl jam sounds unlike anything anyone ever heard and stp are somehow unique in debuting albums that are derivitive?, not that this neccesarily makes bad rock and roll in any way.
But it would be a festival I'd defiantly attend.
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10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
I think he was pissed off at Headbanger's Ball VJ who mentioned the similarity and STP cancel their appearance...I'm too sure if that's true.
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However, from what I gather, it seems like Weiland has continued being a loose cannon on their current tour and its only a matter of time before the wheels fall off. PJ probably would like some sort of stability if they are going to book a tour.
After watchingTed Leo and the Pharmacists, I wouldnt mind seeing them with a longer set though. My favorite opening band Ive seen for PJ.
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Agreed, although I would argue that STP has 3 really good albums:
Core -- their first and most well known, with some very solid songs like Plush, Dead and Bloated, and Sex Type Thing;
Purple -- a redirection in a big way, similar to how PJ changed paths with No Code (except this was only STP's second album); probably their best, and definitely one of the most underrated albums of the 90's; some amazing tracks such as Interstate Love Song, Still Remains, and Pretty Penny;
Tiny Music...Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop -- another VASTLY underrated album; this is certainly their most artsy and experimental album, with some killer pop songs like Big Bang Baby, Adhesive Love, Lady Picture Show, and Trippin' on a Hole in a Paper Heart.
Didn't care for anything of theirs after that, but still, there's enough good stuff on those three albums to put on an awesome show.
Definitely no comparison to Pearl Jam in terms of overall career success or breadth of great music, but they're nowhere near the Creed or Nickelback comparison some made earlier, either.
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I saw STP twice...liked them both times.
That comment about Slash? Wasn't he a drug addict too, at one time? I think that's hypocritical.
PJ will always be my number one band, but I love STP too.
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