Why has PJ never toured with STP?

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  • riffrandall
    riffrandall Posts: 685
    Carlos D wrote:
    STP were just a better timed Creed.

    No kidding. I know I've heard people refer to them as "Stone Temple Pearl Jam" esp about 10 yrs ago.
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  • riffrandall
    riffrandall Posts: 685
    muppet wrote:
    It's funny that some people are calling STP a poser band, when Pearl Jam was accused of that a lot as well.

    I have never heard that. Never.
    I'm a music writer & I have heard many unkind and untrue things about PJ, but the one thing that is widely agreed on is that when they first came out, no one had ever heard anything like them.
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  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    because Scott Weiland is a little bitch.

    although STP rocks, it would be a complete clash of band personalities.
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    edit: double post.
  • AiCPearlJamWeen
    AiCPearlJamWeen Posts: 785
    Why do people compare Scott and STP to be Pearl Jam ripoffs. Even in Plush I hear nothing that resembles Ed. None of their songs besides maybe Dead and Bloated really sound like anything PJ would ever do.

    Just please stop considering them a rip-off when they are not.
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Carlos D wrote:
    STP were just a better timed Creed.

    Maybe Scott Weiland was a better timed Scott Stapp, but the Deleo brothers are excellent musicians and songwriters. Creed never wrote anything that even approaches the majesty of Glide, Atlanta or Adhesive.
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  • AiCPearlJamWeen
    AiCPearlJamWeen Posts: 785
    riffrandall wrote:
    I have never heard that. Never.
    I'm a music writer & I have heard many unkind and untrue things about PJ, but the one thing that is widely agreed on is that when they first came out, no one had ever heard anything like them.

    Actually I have heard a couple radio show hosts say that Ed and PJ are a rip-off of the Doors and the Who.
  • darthvedder81
    darthvedder81 Posts: 688
    dunkman wrote:
    because STP are shit

    No they're not. They aren't to PJ's level but I'll take their classic riffage over the crap that passes for rock & roll these days. Oh and Dean DeLeo is a better guitar player than Stone.
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  • evenflowman
    evenflowman Posts: 1,347
    Scotts ego couldnt fit on stage.
  • riffrandall
    riffrandall Posts: 685
    AiCPearlJamWeen wrote:
    Actually I have heard a couple radio show hosts say that Ed and PJ are a rip-off of the Doors and the Who.

    Ah. OK- so DJs said that. Speaking as an ex-DJ, DJs these days are hacks. The majority of them are moderately funny guys who do open mic stand up comedy in their free time.
    Doesn't mean they are not entertaining, just that almost no one on the air knows anything at all about music.
    Case in point- the #1 DJ at a Classic Rock station in Providence didn't realize that Neil Young's catalog didn't stop with "Everybody Knows This is Nowhere" and pick up again with "Freedom." Sadly, that is not even a mild exaggeration.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    No they're not. They aren't to PJ's level but I'll take their classic riffage over the crap that passes for rock & roll these days. Oh and Dean DeLeo is a better guitar player than Stone.


    but Stone's dad is bigger than Dean DeLeo's dad...
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  • cbbjr
    cbbjr Posts: 241
    Fan of both - though PJ much more than STP - but wouldn't want to see them both together. Seems like there are always problems when there are two big bands on one bill. Plus, having a band like KOL or Ted Leo + Pharmacists open is nice since it gives them a lot of exposure. I have a feeling if STP and PJ played a show we wouldn't get full sets and encores from either and it would result in a lot of bitching.
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  • kimani
    kimani Posts: 16
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    No they're not. They aren't to PJ's level but I'll take their classic riffage over the crap that passes for rock & roll these days. Oh and Dean DeLeo is a better guitar player than Stone.

    note that you are comparing them to rock & roll these days. i'm talking about the 90's. in the 90's seattle took off. i'd say the 4 biggest bands then were nirvana, pearl jam, soundgarden and alice in chains. the pumpkins got lumped into the group even though they were from chicago. a year later after a few million records were sold by eddie and crew, stp came out.

    distorted "grungey" guitars. deep brooding voice. at the time it seemed to me at least to be another major label rip off of a popular sound. it fell into the category of fashion shows with people wearing flannel shirts and the like...

    take this from wikipedia...

    "Despite commercial success, the music press criticized the band as grunge imitators. Weiland told Entertainment Weekly in 2008, "It was really painful in the beginning because I just assumed that the critics would understand where we were coming from, that these just weren't dumb rock songs." In a January 1994 Rolling Stone poll, the band was simultaneously voted Best New Band by Rolling Stone's readers and Worst New Band by the magazine's music critics.[10] "
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    kimani wrote:
    distorted "grungey" guitars. deep brooding voice. at the time it seemed to me at least to be another major label rip off of a popular sound. it fell into the category of fashion shows with people wearing flannel shirts and the like...
    "

    To STP's credit, they pulled away from that pretty early on. Weiland even went out of his way to change his singing voice, so as to distance himself from the Pearl Jams of the world.

    Purple -- STP's second album, and one of the best album's of the 90s -- sounds almost nothing like Core, STP's debut.
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  • kimani
    kimani Posts: 16
    i'd agree. in time i got over it and liked them. i'm just saying that in 1992 being a humongous pearl jam fan i despised them. despised them.
  • eldarion75
    eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    stp, scott in particular, are NOT Pj's kind of people...end of story.
  • Lennon_Cobain
    Lennon_Cobain Posts: 706
    Stone Temple Pilots and Pearl Jam touring together would be awesome. Let's git 'er done.
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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Pearl Jam (Ed mostly) would problably rather pair up with "The Who" or "Neil Young" at this stage in their career. They have been a band for nearly 20 years, their more like classic rock than "grunge", or atleast to me they are. They already opened up for Tom Petty which is cool.
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  • pateljam
    pateljam Posts: 340
    Joe2TheRevenge wrote:
    They could call it "The greatest tour ever"

    Because it would be.

    Imagine Ed and Scott trading vocals on a mutually-loved Doors song. It would be as epic as Hunger Strike.

    Ahhhh well, at least i can dream.

    Greatest tour ever...I don't think so, there are plenty of bands out there that would make it a dream tour with PJ.

    But it would be interesting to see maybe one show... like a benefit or something... but tour...fuck no...
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  • release30
    release30 Posts: 2,051
    I say do it...I'd go...And I know many many others would too.....
    Conversations getting dull
    There's a constant ringing in my ears
    Sense of humor's void and numb
    And I'm bored to tears.......

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