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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,285
    Hey everybody, don’t speak up or out until your rights are really taken away. In fact, just wait until it’s happened and you have something to bitch about, okay?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I know, one side is worse so the other side can do what they want as long as it's not AS bad. 
    “The other side can do what they want as long as it’s not AS bad.” 

    What were you implying by this? There is no comparison.
    you're the only one comparing. we've been down this road before. 

    Kid A steals a pack of gum. 
    Kid A gets caught. 
    Kid B assaults a teacher. 
    Kid B gets caught. 
    Kid A's defense is that Kid A is worse. 

    In your world, Kid A gets off Scott free because Kid B did worse. In my world, they both get punished, but to obviously different degrees. 

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hey everybody, don’t speak up or out until your rights are really taken away. In fact, just wait until it’s happened and you have something to bitch about, okay?
    no one is saying don't speak up. I'm saying don't excuse harassment because it's your team. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I know, one side is worse so the other side can do what they want as long as it's not AS bad. 
    “The other side can do what they want as long as it’s not AS bad.” 

    What were you implying by this? There is no comparison.
    you're the only one comparing. we've been down this road before. 

    Kid A steals a pack of gum. 
    Kid A gets caught. 
    Kid B assaults a teacher. 
    Kid B gets caught. 
    Kid A's defense is that Kid A is worse. 

    In your world, Kid A gets off Scott free because Kid B did worse. In my world, they both get punished, but to obviously different degrees. 

    Last time I checked, peaceful protest and exercising freedom of speech wasn’t a crime, regardless of whose house or business or public property it occurs on. You brought up “one side” and the “other side not as bad,” not me.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    show me where I said they were the same. Show me where I even implied something as ridiculous as that. I didn't. 

    protesting in front of someone's home is wrong. 
    murder is way more wrong. 

    does that clear it up?
    Why is it “wrong?” Because you disagree with it? It’s constitutionally protected. Are you for selective application of constitutionally protected rights?
    I'm not saying they should be prosecuted, lol. I'm saying I don't think it's ethical. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,285
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    show me where I said they were the same. Show me where I even implied something as ridiculous as that. I didn't. 

    protesting in front of someone's home is wrong. 
    murder is way more wrong. 

    does that clear it up?
    Why is it “wrong?” Because you disagree with it? It’s constitutionally protected. Are you for selective application of constitutionally protected rights?
    I'm not saying they should be prosecuted, lol. I'm saying I don't think it's ethical. 
    Now it’s not “ethical?” I thought you said it was wrong?


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,285
    Now it’s “harassment?” 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    more howaboutism.

    yeah, they're both wrong. 
    The right has created a cottage industry of political violence, resulting in death, intimidation and harassment for those that oppose their views and legislation. Rushbo amplified it, abortion providers and folks who worked at clinics have been murdered and Deathsantis and Abbott & Costello have legalized aspects of it, whether it be for abortion or voting. So excuse the fuck out of me if the left exercises their freedom of speech in front of SCOTUS homes on “public” property.

    I know, both sides.
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I know, one side is worse so the other side can do what they want as long as it's not AS bad. 
    “The other side can do what they want as long as it’s not AS bad.” 

    What were you implying by this? There is no comparison.
    you're the only one comparing. we've been down this road before. 

    Kid A steals a pack of gum. 
    Kid A gets caught. 
    Kid B assaults a teacher. 
    Kid B gets caught. 
    Kid A's defense is that Kid A is worse. 

    In your world, Kid A gets off Scott free because Kid B did worse. In my world, they both get punished, but to obviously different degrees. 

    Last time I checked, peaceful protest and exercising freedom of speech wasn’t a crime, regardless of whose house or business or public property it occurs on. You brought up “one side” and the “other side not as bad,” not me.

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,133
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think your home is off limits. shame them in public or at work or whatever....fine. But your home? big fat NOPE. 
    i respectfully disagree. they are purposely inflicting pain on women. they live in affluent neighborhoods. they can either make due and deal with some people voicing their anger at home, or they can go stay in a hotel for a week. in my opinion, dealing with some people out in front of their house is a tiny, tiny price to pay for making women carry the child of their their rapist. having a few hundred people in front of their house pales in comparison to the lifelong pain inflicted on those women.
    I find it odd that as soon as someone is rich they should be subject to harassment because they can "afford to deal with it". that to me is a very odd take.  

    going down the road where a judge feels intimidated to make a ruling/not make a ruling is a very dangerous path. 

    if republicans were harassing liberal judges about to make a ruling on 2A, I feel like you and Halifax would have a VERY different opinion on this. 
    Do you think the right would show up to peacefully exercise their freedom of speech?Are you trying to same-same this? 
    no. the right shows up with guns. see michigan state house protests from a few years ago.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,133
    well i guess we can't protest in front of the white house since it is the president's residence.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,133
    founding documents give us the right to show up and peacefully assemble and seek redress of grievances. we have the right to do that. this is exactly what is happening outside the justices' homes. they want a redress of grievances. it is legal. this idea goes all the way back to the magna carta.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    show me where I said they were the same. Show me where I even implied something as ridiculous as that. I didn't. 

    protesting in front of someone's home is wrong. 
    murder is way more wrong. 

    does that clear it up?
    No.  Now if you send murder is super, ultra wrong, then maybe I'd believe you.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    show me where I said they were the same. Show me where I even implied something as ridiculous as that. I didn't. 

    protesting in front of someone's home is wrong. 
    murder is way more wrong. 

    does that clear it up?
    I commend you for even trying. 
    lol
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    founding documents give us the right to show up and peacefully assemble and seek redress of grievances. we have the right to do that. this is exactly what is happening outside the justices' homes. they want a redress of grievances. it is legal. this idea goes all the way back to the magna carta.
    again, I never said it was illegal. I just think that it can lead to something more egregious by some nutjob down the line. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    I agree with Hugh.  The left should not stoop to the right's level and attempt to intimidate a person by protesting in front of their home.  And to me, I see it as an attempt to intimidate.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    show me where I said they were the same. Show me where I even implied something as ridiculous as that. I didn't. 

    protesting in front of someone's home is wrong. 
    murder is way more wrong. 

    does that clear it up?
    No.  Now if you send murder is super, ultra wrong, then maybe I'd believe you.  
    I originally typed "wrong-er" but figured that wasn't quite clear enough. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,285
    mrussel1 said:
    I agree with Hugh.  The left should not stoop to the right's level and attempt to intimidate a person by protesting in front of their home.  And to me, I see it as an attempt to intimidate.  
    Is it intimidation if they were to stand in silence with lit candles? How about if they recite the Lord’s Prayer repeatedly?

    And thus far, “the left is not stooping to the right’s level.” Not even close.

    I can’t believe you guys are falling for this after what we’ve witnessed over the past almost 6-7 years. The left continues to be demonized for doth protesting too much and the needle indicating what’s normal, acceptable or how it should be continues to move to the right. You’re going to wake up one day and wonder what the fuck happened to the US.

    ”The SCOTUS leak is a greater threat to our democracy than 1/6.” That wee little peaceful protest at the Capitol? Meh.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    yeah, sure, we're falling for it. falling for knowing how to be objective and not constantly outraged by everything in the news cycle every single day. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,133
    mrussel1 said:
    I agree with Hugh.  The left should not stoop to the right's level and attempt to intimidate a person by protesting in front of their home.  And to me, I see it as an attempt to intimidate.  
    let me know when we show up with ar-15s.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,797
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I agree with Hugh.  The left should not stoop to the right's level and attempt to intimidate a person by protesting in front of their home.  And to me, I see it as an attempt to intimidate.  
    let me know when we show up with ar-15s.
    +1

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