*** Pearl Jam San Diego, CA Fanviews 5/3/22 ***
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Red Lukin said:Besides the new songs, as well as footsteps, once and long road it looks like a pretty boring show. Same old songs.
Why not just take out the 10-20 most over played songs and play something else.
So many good songs that are never or rarely played.
I miss 2003.0 -
walkunafraid said:Red Lukin said:Besides the new songs, as well as footsteps, once and long road it looks like a pretty boring show. Same old songs.
Why not just take out the 10-20 most over played songs and play something else.
So many good songs that are never or rarely played.
I miss 2003.
I have some friends and family attending the show in LA on Saturday who will be seeing PJ for the first time, and they would have loved this type of setlist as opposed to one with a bunch of obscure and non-hit tracks.
I've been to PJ shows that feature a broader selection of deep cuts, and those have been the *least* energetic shows I've attended.
Fans have become so obsessed with the "specialness" of being in attendance for a rare song or five that it's like all other songs are trash to them.
GTF, Alive, Corduroy, Evenflow were the songs that were the most energetic and most well-received by the audience as a whole last night. That energy needs to be part of a set. As much as I love hearing a rare or obscure track, I'm not self-focused enough to believe that a whole show of them would best for the performance as a whole.0 -
droptheleash9 said:The 23 song set with nothing crossed off has me worried for LA. Is 20-24 songs like we saw in 2021 the new norm? 23 songs with a mix of new and old, fan favorites, classics, and rareties is more than fine by me - I understand they can't play 3 hour shows forever - but it's tough when 35% of the show is composed of stuff from the new albums. They've built a reputation on long sets and variety. Without those elements, (this pains me to say) they could become "just another band" to a lot of people.0
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mshnayder said:walkunafraid said:Red Lukin said:Besides the new songs, as well as footsteps, once and long road it looks like a pretty boring show. Same old songs.
Why not just take out the 10-20 most over played songs and play something else.
So many good songs that are never or rarely played.
I miss 2003.
I have some friends and family attending the show in LA on Saturday who will be seeing PJ for the first time, and they would have loved this type of setlist as opposed to one with a bunch of obscure and non-hit tracks.
I've been to PJ shows that feature a broader selection of deep cuts, and those have been the *least* energetic shows I've attended.
Fans have become so obsessed with the "specialness" of being in attendance for a rare song or five that it's like all other songs are trash to them.
GTF, Alive, Corduroy, Evenflow were the songs that were the most energetic and most well-received by the audience as a whole last night. That energy needs to be part of a set. As much as I love hearing a rare or obscure track, I'm not self-focused enough to believe that a whole show of them would best for the performance as a whole.2006: Hartford
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2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas0 -
opsopcopolis said:mshnayder said:walkunafraid said:Red Lukin said:Besides the new songs, as well as footsteps, once and long road it looks like a pretty boring show. Same old songs.
Why not just take out the 10-20 most over played songs and play something else.
So many good songs that are never or rarely played.
I miss 2003.
I have some friends and family attending the show in LA on Saturday who will be seeing PJ for the first time, and they would have loved this type of setlist as opposed to one with a bunch of obscure and non-hit tracks.
I've been to PJ shows that feature a broader selection of deep cuts, and those have been the *least* energetic shows I've attended.
Fans have become so obsessed with the "specialness" of being in attendance for a rare song or five that it's like all other songs are trash to them.
GTF, Alive, Corduroy, Evenflow were the songs that were the most energetic and most well-received by the audience as a whole last night. That energy needs to be part of a set. As much as I love hearing a rare or obscure track, I'm not self-focused enough to believe that a whole show of them would best for the performance as a whole.Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
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DEGBTI said:
Also, I think some fans need to take a step back. Pearl Jam gives us their heart and soul at every tour stop and some people just want more, more, more. It’s pretty sad actually. Maybe some of you shouldn’t see as many shows as you do. You sound too spoiled.I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.0 -
PJammin' said:DEGBTI said:
Also, I think some fans need to take a step back. Pearl Jam gives us their heart and soul at every tour stop and some people just want more, more, more. It’s pretty sad actually. Maybe some of you shouldn’t see as many shows as you do. You sound too spoiled.I used to think it might be cool if the band popped by the forums every once in a while to check out what their fans were discussing. Now I dread it. It was clear the band poured their hearts and souls into the performance last night and enjoyed every second of it. If any of them came by and saw the level of bitching and whining about a set that was “only” 23 songs/2:45 they’d be completely justified in thinking, “Fuck it, I give up, we’re done.”I rarely revert to the “entitled fucks” card, but given the amount of bitching/whining by “fans” of the band - most of whom weren’t even at the damn show - about what was a very special and beautiful gig, I just have to call out what a lot of entitled fucks many of you are.Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
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This was my first Pearl Jam show as they have eluded me for decades and this was the exact setlist I wanted - I neither required nor was in the mood for a Benaroya Hall type setlist - maybe after a few shows are under my belt. Eddie’s voice and energy was better than any video I have seen of them in the last few years ( it even comes through in videos of last night’s performance) so I was stoked about that. I was elated to see the backwards trilogy, better man, daughter, jeremy, once, corduroy, opening the show with Oceans ( they don’t do this THAT often). I was happy that the Gigaton songs sounded as good as they did. I enjoyed the anecdotes and stories - it felt like a family affair and everything. It was truly jubilant and I met the best people and got great, close video footage. I walked onto the floor right before Eddie opened the show and got 5 people from the stage. San Diego is so chill. I got one of Jeff’s picks after and it is dope. I have a weird feeling that 35 song setlists may be a thing of the past as they get older and have openers. We’ll see. Anyway, it was a glorious night - I feel bad for anybody that was disappointed by this performance as I left with nothing but gratitude.Post edited by arcticsounds on0
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Uglyman said:Ok, I don’t know if this happened at any other show but maybe I didn’t notice at Ohana…Ed had a backing track. I think it was Dance of Clairvoyants. Josh was singing back up but Ed stopped signing to interact and I heard him still singing. Is this new?0
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NEweather said:Uglyman said:Ok, I don’t know if this happened at any other show but maybe I didn’t notice at Ohana…Ed had a backing track. I think it was Dance of Clairvoyants. Josh was singing back up but Ed stopped signing to interact and I heard him still singing. Is this new?0
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walkunafraid said:PJammin' said:DEGBTI said:
Also, I think some fans need to take a step back. Pearl Jam gives us their heart and soul at every tour stop and some people just want more, more, more. It’s pretty sad actually. Maybe some of you shouldn’t see as many shows as you do. You sound too spoiled.I used to think it might be cool if the band popped by the forums every once in a while to check out what their fans were discussing. Now I dread it. It was clear the band poured their hearts and souls into the performance last night and enjoyed every second of it. If any of them came by and saw the level of bitching and whining about a set that was “only” 23 songs/2:45 they’d be completely justified in thinking, “Fuck it, I give up, we’re done.”I rarely revert to the “entitled fucks” card, but given the amount of bitching/whining by “fans” of the band - most of whom weren’t even at the damn show - about what was a very special and beautiful gig, I just have to call out what a lot of entitled fucks many of you are.0 -
Watched some of the YouTube videos and Ed’s voice sounded great! The minimal stage set was awesome just like ‘03. Band played almost three hours and no covers to start the tour. Amazing. Would have loved to attend and look forward to seeing what the next shows have in store!4.17.94 Paramount 9.28.96 Randall's Island 8.25.00 Jones Beach 4.28.03 Spectrum 7.5.03 Camden 7.6.03 Camden 07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa 5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin 9.3.24 MSG 9.4.24 MSG Fenway 9.15.24 Fenway 9.17.24 Hollywood 4.24.25 Nashville 5.6.25 Nashville 5.8.250
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walkunafraid said:PJammin' said:DEGBTI said:
Also, I think some fans need to take a step back. Pearl Jam gives us their heart and soul at every tour stop and some people just want more, more, more. It’s pretty sad actually. Maybe some of you shouldn’t see as many shows as you do. You sound too spoiled.I used to think it might be cool if the band popped by the forums every once in a while to check out what their fans were discussing. Now I dread it. It was clear the band poured their hearts and souls into the performance last night and enjoyed every second of it. If any of them came by and saw the level of bitching and whining about a set that was “only” 23 songs/2:45 they’d be completely justified in thinking, “Fuck it, I give up, we’re done.”I rarely revert to the “entitled fucks” card, but given the amount of bitching/whining by “fans” of the band - most of whom weren’t even at the damn show - about what was a very special and beautiful gig, I just have to call out what a lot of entitled fucks many of you are.
We shouldn't be surprised that traveling fans are concerned about shorter setlists with less variety. That is not an attack on the band, but just a realization that there may not be an incentive to see 5 shows a tour.
It is earlier though. San Diego was one show and appears to be a special one Ed put together being his hometown. I think they'll get back to 29 songs a night. But people aren't being entitled if they are used to the 30+ songs a night and then it switches to 23 songs with less variety. The product changed and so the customers can decide what to do. Again, way early in the tour.
Nobody is saying the band doesn’t care or isn’t making an effort. Nobody is saying they don’t sound good.Post edited by bootlegger10 on0 -
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Personally, just glad to know that the tour had started and we are all finally getting to see the band again.
No harm in them taking it easier during the US Tour as well to save it up for the European legWembley Arena, London, England 05-30-2000
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bootlegger10 said:walkunafraid said:PJammin' said:DEGBTI said:
Also, I think some fans need to take a step back. Pearl Jam gives us their heart and soul at every tour stop and some people just want more, more, more. It’s pretty sad actually. Maybe some of you shouldn’t see as many shows as you do. You sound too spoiled.I used to think it might be cool if the band popped by the forums every once in a while to check out what their fans were discussing. Now I dread it. It was clear the band poured their hearts and souls into the performance last night and enjoyed every second of it. If any of them came by and saw the level of bitching and whining about a set that was “only” 23 songs/2:45 they’d be completely justified in thinking, “Fuck it, I give up, we’re done.”I rarely revert to the “entitled fucks” card, but given the amount of bitching/whining by “fans” of the band - most of whom weren’t even at the damn show - about what was a very special and beautiful gig, I just have to call out what a lot of entitled fucks many of you are.
We shouldn't be surprised that traveling fans are concerned about shorter setlists with less variety. That is not an attack on the band, but just a realization that there may not be an incentive to see 5 shows a tour.
It is earlier though. San Diego was one show and appears to be a special one Ed put together being his hometown. I think they'll get back to 29 songs a night. But people aren't being entitled if they are used to the 30+ songs a night and then it switches to 23 songs with less variety. The product changed and so the customers can decide what to do. Again, way early in the tour.
Nobody is saying the band doesn’t care or isn’t making an effort. Nobody is saying they don’t sound good.That said, I thought the set was fun, just full of songs I didn’t care to hear in that configuration. Ed sounded the best he’s sounded in years imo, noticed it particularly on Once.2006: Hartford
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2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas0 -
Before Jeremy, Eddie mentioned some Encinitas happenings at Oak Crest Middle School as part of the genesis of Jeremy. I've never heard that before - I only recall the Texas shooting.
Anyone have any more info on the Encinitas event? My google search skills didn't locate anything.6/24/95, 11/4/95, 11/7/95, 7/10/98, 7/12/98, 7/13/98, 10/24/00, 10/25/00, 10/27/00, 6/2/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 7/7/06. 7/9/06, 7/10/06, +++ most socal pjam shows since...0 -
100 Pacer said:@given2fly23 waiting on your review.
“Long Road in the middle of the set was beautiful. Dedicated his brother who passed away. The Footsteps-Once-Alive trilogy was awesome because it was actually written here and I think it’s the first time they did it here. In general it was a shorter set and full of hits, but part of me is glad we got it out of our system. Not sure we would’ve enjoyed deep cuts any more than hits last night cuz we were already at max stoke! I teared up and started bouncing as soon as the lights went down. The guy in front of me turned around and goes “you are jacked up!” He didn’t last through half the set.”
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given2fly23 said:100 Pacer said:@given2fly23 waiting on your review.
“Long Road in the middle of the set was beautiful. Dedicated his brother who passed away. The Footsteps-Once-Alive trilogy was awesome because it was actually written here and I think it’s the first time they did it here. In general it was a shorter set and full of hits, but part of me is glad we got it out of our system. Not sure we would’ve enjoyed deep cuts any more than hits last night cuz we were already at max stoke! I teared up and started bouncing as soon as the lights went down. The guy in front of me turned around and goes “you are jacked up!” He didn’t last through half the set.”
Can't wait to see that energy at the last shows of the tour man.0 -
PJNB said:given2fly23 said:100 Pacer said:@given2fly23 waiting on your review.
“Long Road in the middle of the set was beautiful. Dedicated his brother who passed away. The Footsteps-Once-Alive trilogy was awesome because it was actually written here and I think it’s the first time they did it here. In general it was a shorter set and full of hits, but part of me is glad we got it out of our system. Not sure we would’ve enjoyed deep cuts any more than hits last night cuz we were already at max stoke! I teared up and started bouncing as soon as the lights went down. The guy in front of me turned around and goes “you are jacked up!” He didn’t last through half the set.”
Can't wait to see that energy at the last shows of the tour man.Found: Soundgarden Hyde Park DVD (Thank you for the gift!)
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