Seattle Homelessness

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  • jpgoegel
    jpgoegel Posts: 415
    shit. arrived in seattle this afternoon, and we're staying right downtown, a few blocks from the water. holy shit I've never seen so many homeless people in my life. it's staggering. 
    it's definitely gotten worse recently.  anecdotal, but...i visited most recently in 2018 for the Home Shows, 2019 twice and most recently for EV's shows.  Wintertime drives more people to 3rd Avenue because of the train station, there was a least 5-6 straight blocks sadly.   Also places like CVS now lock their alcohol coolers requiring a staff member to unlock them, which didn't exist before 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,541
    mickeyrat said:
    shit. arrived in seattle this afternoon, and we're staying right downtown, a few blocks from the water. holy shit I've never seen so many homeless people in my life. it's staggering. 

    Amazon, Microsoft,  Boeing. couple other majors up there drive that. along with fair enough weather. but the reality is many of those wound up priced out of home or apartment.
    I've been to Seattle many times in the last 30 years and it's not that they are just priced out.  You have many w drug addictions and mental illness.

    In 95-97 I was living off and on there and if you were early enough you would catch the police waking up the homeless from in front of the courthouse.  The whole lawn was full.

    Something else interesting is where amazon is, there are no homeless.  They had enough pull to get local LEO to clear them out.  It was like being in another part of the world because everywhere you looked, other than there, homeless were present.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,725
    shit. arrived in seattle this afternoon, and we're staying right downtown, a few blocks from the water. holy shit I've never seen so many homeless people in my life. it's staggering. 

    The west coast is the place to be if you're homeless. Freezing to death is very unlikely.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,611
    PJ_Soul said:
    shit. arrived in seattle this afternoon, and we're staying right downtown, a few blocks from the water. holy shit I've never seen so many homeless people in my life. it's staggering. 

    The west coast is the place to be if you're homeless. Freezing to death is very unlikely.
    for sure but I haven't seen this same level in Vancouver. I may just not have been in the right area, though. here it's pretty confined to certain streets it seems. you walk down on street and it's Homeless Haven, the next one block over looks like Kardashian Avenue. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,725
    edited May 2022

    PJ_Soul said:
    shit. arrived in seattle this afternoon, and we're staying right downtown, a few blocks from the water. holy shit I've never seen so many homeless people in my life. it's staggering. 

    The west coast is the place to be if you're homeless. Freezing to death is very unlikely.
    for sure but I haven't seen this same level in Vancouver. I may just not have been in the right area, though. here it's pretty confined to certain streets it seems. you walk down on street and it's Homeless Haven, the next one block over looks like Kardashian Avenue. 
    The homeless problem in Vancouver is horrible, but you're right, you generally see most of it in certain areas, and where most of them are, most others avoid like the plague, because it's not only scary, but so fucking depressing. It is literally normal to see people shooting up on the sidewalk, and tweeking. Cops do nothing at all. And yeah, it is so weird, you can literally be smack dab in the middle of the tourist area, but if you wander just one block too far in a certain direction, you're confronted with absolutely, abject poverty and human misery. I think a lot of tourists in Vancouver get pretty upset when it happens to them, as it's so unexpected and so disturbing to see what you see. COVID made things a bit worse though, and I've noticed there are more homeless camped out on various sidewalks around downtown, no matter the area, more than ever. When more shuttered stores and everything there isn't much motivation I guess to try and get these people to move on (not that I'm saying they should be told to move on).
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  • Pap
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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,337
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:
    shit. arrived in seattle this afternoon, and we're staying right downtown, a few blocks from the water. holy shit I've never seen so many homeless people in my life. it's staggering. 

    The west coast is the place to be if you're homeless. Freezing to death is very unlikely.
    for sure but I haven't seen this same level in Vancouver. I may just not have been in the right area, though. here it's pretty confined to certain streets it seems. you walk down on street and it's Homeless Haven, the next one block over looks like Kardashian Avenue. 
    The homeless problem in Vancouver is horrible, but you're right, you generally see most of it in certain areas, and where most of them are, most others avoid like the plague, because it's not only scary, but so fucking depressing. It is literally normal to see people shooting up on the sidewalk, and tweeking. Cops do nothing at all. And yeah, it is so weird, you can literally be smack dab in the middle of the tourist area, but if you wander just one block too far in a certain direction, you're confronted with absolutely, abject poverty and human misery. I think a lot of tourists in Vancouver get pretty upset when it happens to them, as it's so unexpected and so disturbing to see what you see. COVID made things a bit worse though, and I've noticed there are more homeless camped out on various sidewalks around downtown, no matter the area, more than ever. When more shuttered stores and everything there isn't much motivation I guess to try and get these people to move on (not that I'm saying they should be told to move on).
    Sorry to hear that. We were stationed on Whidbey Island on the mid 90's and made it up to Vancouver a few times. We loved the city and taking the kids to to the aquarium. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,322
    It was bad in California when we went to the Oakland shows. We stayed a few days in Santa Monica and then Oakland.

    The homeless would sleep on some of the structures on Venice Beach and then get cleared out every morning by security.

    People want to complain but it takes money to fix that issue. Money that no one wants to provide.
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  • Pap
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,611
    May be an image of campsite and text that says See A tent Just fucking leave it alone thanks Maybe instead of complaining about a homeless person s only shelter from the elements you could do something about the economic condition that put them there in the first place Or maybe let them use the bathroom at your overpriced bougie-ass hipster cafe As you out of your way to make the life of a homeless person harder ask yourself the question What the fuck is wrong with me
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  • Pap
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  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,382
    edited August 13
    "Homeless individuals will be given the option to leave their encampment, to be taken to a homeless shelter, to be offered addiction or mental health services," Leavitt said during a press briefing, when asked by NPR about the expanding crackdown. "If they refuse, they will be subjected to fines or jail time." [link]

    This is twisting my head. I don't think being homeless is a crime. Jailing someone who is homeless for being homeless seems inhumane like creating a Debtor's Prison. Is it more that given the land is owned by the government, and they are kicking people off, and if the people don't move it is a crime like trespassing?

    It would make sense that this is evil, as it is Trump. An adjustable wrench of evil in all he orders.
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Ms. Haiku said:
    "Homeless individuals will be given the option to leave their encampment, to be taken to a homeless shelter, to be offered addiction or mental health services," Leavitt said during a press briefing, when asked by NPR about the expanding crackdown. "If they refuse, they will be subjected to fines or jail time." [link]

    This is twisting my head. I don't think being homeless is a crime. Jailing someone who is homeless for being homeless seems inhumane like creating a Debtor's Prison. Is it more that given the land is owned by the government, and they are kicking people off, and if the people don't move it is a crime like trespassing?

    It would make sense that this is evil, as it is Trump. An adjustable wrench of evil in all he orders.
    Catch 22.  Mental health or addiction are most likely not going to want help.  If they refuse and get jailed it's only exacerbating the problem.

    I can understand people not wanting homeless encampments but there should be a more humane way of dealing w them.  Force them to get help.  It's not very PC but sometimes you need an intervention.


  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,007
    edited August 13
    This is an organization here in Tulsa (created in Springfield, MO), that my Church helps and promotes and I'm interested in volunteering to assist them.

    https://edenvillagetulsa.org/

    For the people who are far more knowledgeable about homelessness issues than I, what is your opinion on their approach?
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