2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • setlist41
    setlist41 Posts: 598
    Any talk of adding more shows?
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,373
    edited April 2022
    Weston1283 said:
    igotid88 said:
    I'm not saying they're going to cancel the show. But Oklahoma just approved a ban on abortions. 
    Horrible that something like that passed, but it won’t affect the show.

    Raleigh 2016 was fueled by many other acts leading the way, putting PJ in a position where they basically HAD to cancel.

    After the pandemic, though, I don’t think anything like this would force cancellations again going forward.  Bands and promoters are too desperate to play shows and make money.
    The 2020 tour was being set up to allow them to have a platform to address voters and register new voters during the Presidential election year . With the 2022 mid term elections being so important, I don't think they would miss the opportunity to have and use that platform this year to rally voters to try to make changes in those States. 
    Post edited by JeBurkhardt on
  • droptheleash9
    droptheleash9 Posts: 1,468
    edited April 2022
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Weston1283 said:
    igotid88 said:
    I'm not saying they're going to cancel the show. But Oklahoma just approved a ban on abortions. 
    Horrible that something like that passed, but it won’t affect the show.

    Raleigh 2016 was fueled by many other acts leading the way, putting PJ in a position where they basically HAD to cancel.

    After the pandemic, though, I don’t think anything like this would force cancellations again going forward.  Bands and promoters are too desperate to play shows and make money.
    The 2020 tour was being set up to allow them to have a platform to address voters and register new voters during the Presidential election year . With the 2022 mid term elections being so important, I don't think they would miss the opportunity to have and use that platform this year to rally voters to try to make changes in those States. 
    Hey I'm all for whatever is going to get us more shows. That said, I think we as a fan base drastically overestimate the role that voting and voter registration plays in where the band plays and how they route their tour. If the voting items were so integral to where they played their shows, why are they playing 4 in Canada (followed by an entire summer European tour mixed) and 7 shows in CA, which has historically been a blue state? Why not play in places where the on the fence voters actually matter and battleground states?
    Post edited by droptheleash9 on
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    droptheleash9 said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Weston1283 said:
    igotid88 said:
    I'm not saying they're going to cancel the show. But Oklahoma just approved a ban on abortions. 
    Horrible that something like that passed, but it won’t affect the show.

    Raleigh 2016 was fueled by many other acts leading the way, putting PJ in a position where they basically HAD to cancel.

    After the pandemic, though, I don’t think anything like this would force cancellations again going forward.  Bands and promoters are too desperate to play shows and make money.
    The 2020 tour was being set up to allow them to have a platform to address voters and register new voters during the Presidential election year . With the 2022 mid term elections being so important, I don't think they would miss the opportunity to have and use that platform this year to rally voters to try to make changes in those States. 
    Hey I'm all for whatever is going to get us more shows. That said, I think we as a fan base drastically overestimate the role that voting and voter registration plays in where the band plays and how they route their tour. If the voting items were so integral to where they played their shows, why are they playing 4 in Canada (followed by an entire summer European tour mixed) and 7 shows in CA, which has historically been a blue state? Why not play in places where the on the fence voters actually matter and battleground states?

    Like New Hampshire!
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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,373
    edited April 2022
    droptheleash9 said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Weston1283 said:
    igotid88 said:
    I'm not saying they're going to cancel the show. But Oklahoma just approved a ban on abortions. 
    Horrible that something like that passed, but it won’t affect the show.

    Raleigh 2016 was fueled by many other acts leading the way, putting PJ in a position where they basically HAD to cancel.

    After the pandemic, though, I don’t think anything like this would force cancellations again going forward.  Bands and promoters are too desperate to play shows and make money.
    The 2020 tour was being set up to allow them to have a platform to address voters and register new voters during the Presidential election year . With the 2022 mid term elections being so important, I don't think they would miss the opportunity to have and use that platform this year to rally voters to try to make changes in those States. 
    Hey I'm all for whatever is going to get us more shows. That said, I think we as a fan base drastically overestimate the role that voting and voter registration plays in where the band plays and how they route their tour. If the voting items were so integral to where they played their shows, why are they playing 4 in Canada (followed by an entire summer European tour mixed) and 7 shows in CA, which has historically been a blue state? Why not play in places where the on the fence voters actually matter and battleground states?
    The rumored 2020 Fall leg had Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Nevada mentioned. Arizona and Colorado were on the original leg. These were all states that going into the 2020 election, were considered somewhat in play for the election. It is interesting that they haven't added a few more shows in battleground states, other than Nevada instead of adding additional shows in California. 
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,027
    droptheleash9 said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Weston1283 said:
    igotid88 said:
    I'm not saying they're going to cancel the show. But Oklahoma just approved a ban on abortions. 
    Horrible that something like that passed, but it won’t affect the show.

    Raleigh 2016 was fueled by many other acts leading the way, putting PJ in a position where they basically HAD to cancel.

    After the pandemic, though, I don’t think anything like this would force cancellations again going forward.  Bands and promoters are too desperate to play shows and make money.
    The 2020 tour was being set up to allow them to have a platform to address voters and register new voters during the Presidential election year . With the 2022 mid term elections being so important, I don't think they would miss the opportunity to have and use that platform this year to rally voters to try to make changes in those States. 
    Hey I'm all for whatever is going to get us more shows. That said, I think we as a fan base drastically overestimate the role that voting and voter registration plays in where the band plays and how they route their tour. If the voting items were so integral to where they played their shows, why are they playing 4 in Canada (followed by an entire summer European tour mixed) and 7 shows in CA, which has historically been a blue state? Why not play in places where the on the fence voters actually matter and battleground states?
    Agreed.  People seem to be more heavily on one side than the other lately, and then you also factor in the social media influences.  I have a hard time believing anyone changes the way they vote because Pearl Jam played them a show or not.
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  • Lost In Ohio
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    igotid88 said:
    I'm not saying they're going to cancel the show. But Oklahoma just approved a ban on abortions. 

    Look at what's going on in Colorado with the marrying of minors.
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    Weston1283 said:
    droptheleash9 said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    Weston1283 said:
    igotid88 said:
    I'm not saying they're going to cancel the show. But Oklahoma just approved a ban on abortions. 
    Horrible that something like that passed, but it won’t affect the show.

    Raleigh 2016 was fueled by many other acts leading the way, putting PJ in a position where they basically HAD to cancel.

    After the pandemic, though, I don’t think anything like this would force cancellations again going forward.  Bands and promoters are too desperate to play shows and make money.
    The 2020 tour was being set up to allow them to have a platform to address voters and register new voters during the Presidential election year . With the 2022 mid term elections being so important, I don't think they would miss the opportunity to have and use that platform this year to rally voters to try to make changes in those States. 
    Hey I'm all for whatever is going to get us more shows. That said, I think we as a fan base drastically overestimate the role that voting and voter registration plays in where the band plays and how they route their tour. If the voting items were so integral to where they played their shows, why are they playing 4 in Canada (followed by an entire summer European tour mixed) and 7 shows in CA, which has historically been a blue state? Why not play in places where the on the fence voters actually matter and battleground states?
    Agreed.  People seem to be more heavily on one side than the other lately, and then you also factor in the social media influences.  I have a hard time believing anyone changes the way they vote because Pearl Jam played them a show or not.
    I think it's less about Pearl Jam playing a show that changes someones vote, and probably more about increasing voter turnout, making donations to causes, etc.   Pearl Jam usually stops short of telling you to vote for X candidate, and is more about trying to get more people to vote.  
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 3,000
    PJNB said:
    NIN it is 
    Winner, winner, chicken dinner:
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    As far as not getting a Boston show goes, this isn't that disappointing. Leaves the door open for the Fenway show that we also probably won't get but it's fun to dream. 
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  • Doug87
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    JimmyV said:
    As far as not getting a Boston show goes, this isn't that disappointing. Leaves the door open for the Fenway show that we also probably won't get but it's fun to dream. 

    Still hoping for next year for Wrigley at least.

    Assume 2023 will bring an additional leg whether that's in support of Gigaton or a new album.
  • iwasatpj20
    iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,474
    JimmyV said:
    As far as not getting a Boston show goes, this isn't that disappointing. Leaves the door open for the Fenway show that we also probably won't get but it's fun to dream. 
    Aren’t all the licenses for 2022 concerts at Fenway taken?
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  • JimmyV
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    iwasatpj20 said:
    JimmyV said:
    As far as not getting a Boston show goes, this isn't that disappointing. Leaves the door open for the Fenway show that we also probably won't get but it's fun to dream. 
    Aren’t all the licenses for 2022 concerts at Fenway taken?
    I've lost track. I don't expect a PJ show this year, regardless. It's just a happy daydream. 
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  • washed in black
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    JimmyV said:
    iwasatpj20 said:
    JimmyV said:
    As far as not getting a Boston show goes, this isn't that disappointing. Leaves the door open for the Fenway show that we also probably won't get but it's fun to dream. 
    Aren’t all the licenses for 2022 concerts at Fenway taken?
    I've lost track. I don't expect a PJ show this year, regardless. It's just a happy daydream. 
    I believe that Imagine Dragons got the last one
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 3,000
    washed in black said:
    JimmyV said:
    iwasatpj20 said:
    JimmyV said:
    As far as not getting a Boston show goes, this isn't that disappointing. Leaves the door open for the Fenway show that we also probably won't get but it's fun to dream. 
    Aren’t all the licenses for 2022 concerts at Fenway taken?
    I've lost track. I don't expect a PJ show this year, regardless. It's just a happy daydream. 
    I believe that Imagine Dragons got the last one
    Oooooof
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  • rhinomagic
    rhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,553
    Seems like the ballpark stuff never really picked up any steam, huh?

    Was hoping for a miracle at Camden Yards. Maybe something will develop in this region for '23, then.
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  • on2legs
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    rhinomagic said:
    Seems like the ballpark stuff never really picked up any steam, huh?

    Was hoping for a miracle at Camden Yards. Maybe something will develop in this region for '23, then.
    I guess you could say we… struck out?
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  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,663
    edited April 2022
    rhinomagic said:
    Seems like the ballpark stuff never really picked up any steam, huh?

    Was hoping for a miracle at Camden Yards. Maybe something will develop in this region for '23, then.
     Maybe the Rumor of Camden Yards was actually Camden NJ... No Ballpark, but would fit what people were hearing. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    Bill Burr taking one of the open dates at Fenway:

    https://www.mlb.com/redsox/tickets/concerts/bill-burr?partnerID=redirect-bos-billburr
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,027
    With the lackluster ticket sales for the May tour, you have to think any ballparks or stadiums for the Fall would have been announced weeks ago. 
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