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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,220
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    myoung321 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    It made oil prices go up, so it did something...

    I saw a chart that we import like 8% of all crude we take in.  THAT makes oil jump up a friggin dollar in price?

    Like @Halifax2TheMax said earlier, watch record profits from the oil companies post later.
    Well yeah.  Their cost to drill the oil didn't go up.  So every increase in the crude price per barrel is upside for them.  
    The percentage that we acquire should not justify an increase like that...
    This is the commodities market. It's speculative.   There certainly doesn't need to be reason.  
    Well put, very true.  I should invest in the futures...
    It took a dive today.  But you have to ask why? The only news was that UAE promised to consider pumping more.  
    Conflict can carry on a while longer and people get panicked again.
    Yes everything is going to be volatile until there's some resolution 
    So get ready for a long ride this is going to have implications for years to come! 
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  • mace1229
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    myoung321 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    It made oil prices go up, so it did something...

    I saw a chart that we import like 8% of all crude we take in.  THAT makes oil jump up a friggin dollar in price?

    Like @Halifax2TheMax said earlier, watch record profits from the oil companies post later.
    What’s also funny is after every spike in price it takes forever to go down. The reason I always hear from oil companies is that the supply is a few months behind, it takes time to refine and distribute, so when oil prices drop it takes a few months to see that effect at the pump. The funny thing is I never see it the other way around. It takes hours of oil prices going up to see it reflected at the pump. 
    May be a first, Tempo, Halifax and me all agree on something, record profits for oil companies will surely come.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Hey @Meltdown99 I need you here man. Post something disparaging about your country or Truedau. ASAP.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • benjs
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Hey @Meltdown99 I need you here man. Post something disparaging about your country or Truedau. ASAP.
    Something tells me you'll fish your wish shortly :) 
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  • Poncier
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    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    myoung321 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    It made oil prices go up, so it did something...

    I saw a chart that we import like 8% of all crude we take in.  THAT makes oil jump up a friggin dollar in price?

    Like @Halifax2TheMax said earlier, watch record profits from the oil companies post later.
    What’s also funny is after every spike in price it takes forever to go down. The reason I always hear from oil companies is that the supply is a few months behind, it takes time to refine and distribute, so when oil prices drop it takes a few months to see that effect at the pump. The funny thing is I never see it the other way around. It takes hours of oil prices going up to see it reflected at the pump. 
    May be a first, Tempo, Halifax and me all agree on something, record profits for oil companies will surely come.
    Oh yeah for sure. Its complete BS how fast prices can rise at the pump.
    I remember when Katrina hit, they said how it would affect gas/oil prices. The next morning driving to work all the gas stations on my drive had jumped like 60 cents from the day before. There's no way that they were selling gas that was affected by the storm.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,871
    edited March 2022
    Poncier said:
    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    myoung321 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    It made oil prices go up, so it did something...

    I saw a chart that we import like 8% of all crude we take in.  THAT makes oil jump up a friggin dollar in price?

    Like @Halifax2TheMax said earlier, watch record profits from the oil companies post later.
    What’s also funny is after every spike in price it takes forever to go down. The reason I always hear from oil companies is that the supply is a few months behind, it takes time to refine and distribute, so when oil prices drop it takes a few months to see that effect at the pump. The funny thing is I never see it the other way around. It takes hours of oil prices going up to see it reflected at the pump. 
    May be a first, Tempo, Halifax and me all agree on something, record profits for oil companies will surely come.
    Oh yeah for sure. Its complete BS how fast prices can rise at the pump.
    I remember when Katrina hit, they said how it would affect gas/oil prices. The next morning driving to work all the gas stations on my drive had jumped like 60 cents from the day before. There's no way that they were selling gas that was affected by the storm.
    They use a LIFO (last in first out) pricing system. So prices will move quickly based on what the oil companies are purchasing oil for that day. 

    It's still bullshit because the element of competition is gone with gasoline. They should all be regulated like a utility.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    kinda interesting the used english.
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  • Smellyman
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    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    kinda interesting the used english.
    might have to call bolshevik on that one


  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited March 2022
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    kinda interesting the used english.
    Photoshopped maybe,...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mace1229
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    I heard Steven Seagal put those signs up himself.
  • bootlegger10
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    2022 and the world is still completely jacked up.  The sad thing is this is probably just the beginning.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    mace1229 said:
    I heard Steven Seagal put those signs up himself.
    Under Siege 2 > Under Siege
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  • dankind
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    edited March 2022
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mace1229 said:
    I heard Steven Seagal put those signs up himself.
    Under Siege 2 > Under Siege
    Agreed.

    And Eric Bogosian is why.





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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,309
    From NYT email blast. If you go to the link, it'll include pictures of them lying dead in the street as well as pictures that humanize them. Horrible.

    The Perebyinis family

    The photograph has become a worldwide symbol of Russia’s brutality toward Ukrainian civilians.
    Four people lay near an intersection in Irpin, a Kyiv suburb, on Sunday. All were dead or soon would be, from the force of Russian mortars. There had been no Ukrainian forces where the mortars landed, suggesting Russia might have been targeting a civilian escape route near Kyiv.

    If so, it was part of Russia’s larger campaign to demoralize Ukraine by killing and wounding ordinary people, a strategy the Russian military has also used in Syria and Chechnya. Ukraine is now enduring these attacks every day, many of them undocumented.

    In Irpin, however, a team of Times journalists happened to be nearby when the mortar shells landed, and one of them, Lynsey Addario, took the photograph of the family. “I thought, you know, it’s disrespectful to take a photo, but I have to take a photo — this is a war crime,” Lynsey told CBS Evening News. “I think it’s really important that people around the world see these images.”

    In the days since the attack, my colleagues have reconstructed the lives of the four victims: Tetiana Perebyinis and her two children, 18-year-old Mykyta and 9-year-old Alisa, along with Anatoly Berezhnyi, a 26-year-old church volunteer trying to help them to safety.

    Tetiana Perebyinis, who was an accountant, and her husband, Serhiy, a computer programmer, had already escaped war in Ukraine once. Until 2014, they lived in eastern Ukraine, and they fled to Kyiv after Russia fomented a separatist uprising in the east.
    “They met in high school but became a couple years later, after meeting again on a dance floor at a Ukrainian nightclub,” my colleague Andrew Kramer reports from Kyiv, after speaking with Serhiy this week. “They owned a Chevrolet minivan and shared a country home with friends, and Ms. Perebyinis was a dedicated gardener and an avid skier.”

    A few weeks ago, before the situation in Kyiv deteriorated, Tetiana’s company rented rooms in Poland and encouraged its employees to use them. But Tetiana did not want to leave until she had a plan to evacuate her mother, who has Alzheimer’s disease. Finally, around 7 a.m. on Sunday, Tetiana and her children began their journey, while Serhiy was trapped in eastern Ukraine, tending to his ailing mother.

    By mid-morning on Sunday, Tetiana, Mykyta and Alisa had all been killed, alongside Berezhnyi, the church volunteer. Berezhnyi had moved his wife to western Ukraine but returned himself to Irpin to help others evacuate.

    “The whole world should know what is happening here,” Serhiy said. Read the rest of the family’s story.

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  • brianlux
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    bootlegger10 said:
    2022 and the world is still completely jacked up.  The sad thing is this is probably just the beginning.

    I had the ultra depressing thought that any of the hopes and dreams of a more peaceful world are completely shattered.  War is a part of the human condition and has been since the advent of agriculture.  But at least there have been some times of relative peace.  Now it feels like we are in for a state of perpetual war for the duration.  How does one remain hopeful and positive in a world wracked with war?  I really don't know and I really don't like being overcome with my current cynical and depressed outlook.  How does one not feel that way with the world such as it is today?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    brianlux said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    2022 and the world is still completely jacked up.  The sad thing is this is probably just the beginning.

    I had the ultra depressing thought that any of the hopes and dreams of a more peaceful world are completely shattered.  War is a part of the human condition and has been since the advent of agriculture.  But at least there have been some times of relative peace.  Now it feels like we are in for a state of perpetual war for the duration.  How does one remain hopeful and positive in a world wracked with war?  I really don't know and I really don't like being overcome with my current cynical and depressed outlook.  How does one not feel that way with the world such as it is today?
    sometimes it makes me feel better to think of it in terms of us just being animals with a greater capacity to "defend our own territory" than other animals. 

    it really is fascinating to me how so many people who rise to power are ultimately the most sociopathic among us. I guess that's what it takes to get to that level in many instances? I don't know. or is the chicken and the egg thing? did some of these people seek out power, or did they get so consumed by it after getting a taste that it became insatiable?
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    2022 and the world is still completely jacked up.  The sad thing is this is probably just the beginning.

    I had the ultra depressing thought that any of the hopes and dreams of a more peaceful world are completely shattered.  War is a part of the human condition and has been since the advent of agriculture.  But at least there have been some times of relative peace.  Now it feels like we are in for a state of perpetual war for the duration.  How does one remain hopeful and positive in a world wracked with war?  I really don't know and I really don't like being overcome with my current cynical and depressed outlook.  How does one not feel that way with the world such as it is today?
    sometimes it makes me feel better to think of it in terms of us just being animals with a greater capacity to "defend our own territory" than other animals. 

    it really is fascinating to me how so many people who rise to power are ultimately the most sociopathic among us. I guess that's what it takes to get to that level in many instances? I don't know. or is the chicken and the egg thing? did some of these people seek out power, or did they get so consumed by it after getting a taste that it became insatiable?
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  • brianlux
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    brianlux said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    2022 and the world is still completely jacked up.  The sad thing is this is probably just the beginning.

    I had the ultra depressing thought that any of the hopes and dreams of a more peaceful world are completely shattered.  War is a part of the human condition and has been since the advent of agriculture.  But at least there have been some times of relative peace.  Now it feels like we are in for a state of perpetual war for the duration.  How does one remain hopeful and positive in a world wracked with war?  I really don't know and I really don't like being overcome with my current cynical and depressed outlook.  How does one not feel that way with the world such as it is today?
    sometimes it makes me feel better to think of it in terms of us just being animals with a greater capacity to "defend our own territory" than other animals. 

    it really is fascinating to me how so many people who rise to power are ultimately the most sociopathic among us. I guess that's what it takes to get to that level in many instances? I don't know. or is the chicken and the egg thing? did some of these people seek out power, or did they get so consumed by it after getting a taste that it became insatiable?

    I would guess the latter.  Thus the oft cited quote from John Acton (Lord Acton), "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

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