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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    Whoa!


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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    Hamilton is devastated.
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  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 610
    Crazy 

    didn’t want to see it end that way though 

    both Max and Lewis have legitimate beefs
    Max at the start and Lewis at the end

    again, wish it was clean with no room for controversy 
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    2003: St. Paul
    2005: Thunder Bay
    2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
    2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010: Boston
    2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
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    2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
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    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    You can't argue that it was the best decision for the spectators and the sport ... an exciting 1 lap finish to a championship season. 
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    edited December 2021
    Jason P said:
    You can't argue that it was the best decision for the spectators and the sport ... an exciting 1 lap finish to a championship season. 
    Agreed. And if Hamilton had pitted, Max would have stayed out, taking the lead. Then it would have been Hamilton on fresh tyres chasing Max that last lap. Mercedes played it safe and it cost them.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,876
    erebus said:
    Crazy 

    didn’t want to see it end that way though 

    both Max and Lewis have legitimate beefs
    Max at the start and Lewis at the end

    again, wish it was clean with no room for controversy 
    This 
    I dont  think it will end here


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    Both teams gambled at the end, and it paid off for one, but not the other. Safety car is the great equalizer in F1.  Hate to see the championship decided on a controversial decision, but I understand the decision (let'em race to the end), and no one wants the final race decided by the safety car.
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 610
    Get_Right said:
    Both teams gambled at the end, and it paid off for one, but not the other. Safety car is the great equalizer in F1.  Hate to see the championship decided on a controversial decision, but I understand the decision (let'em race to the end), and no one wants the final race decided by the safety car.
    Agreed, but looks like it may be decided by lawyers, which will be a shame
    1996: Toronto
    2003: St. Paul
    2005: Thunder Bay
    2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
    2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010: Boston
    2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
    2012: Missoula
    2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
    2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
    2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
    2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 610
    edited December 2021

    1996: Toronto
    2003: St. Paul
    2005: Thunder Bay
    2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
    2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010: Boston
    2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
    2012: Missoula
    2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
    2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
    2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
    2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    erebus said:
    Get_Right said:
    Both teams gambled at the end, and it paid off for one, but not the other. Safety car is the great equalizer in F1.  Hate to see the championship decided on a controversial decision, but I understand the decision (let'em race to the end), and no one wants the final race decided by the safety car.
    Agreed, but looks like it may be decided by lawyers, which will be a shame

    Yep, major dollars on the line. 
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    “The FIA Stewards have dismissed Mercedes’ protests against the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix final classification,” Formula 1 said on its official Twitter feed.
  • tino_11
    tino_11 Posts: 2,182
    I understand people want the championship to end as a race and not with the safety car but rules should be the rules and not enforced because it makes a better spectacle. There was no way this race shouldn’t have ended under the safety car and with that in mind merc made the right call not to pit. Looks foolish with hindsight once Masi decided to implement his own rules. What an absolute mess! 
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    tino_11 said:
    I understand people want the championship to end as a race and not with the safety car but rules should be the rules and not enforced because it makes a better spectacle. There was no way this race shouldn’t have ended under the safety car and with that in mind merc made the right call not to pit. Looks foolish with hindsight once Masi decided to implement his own rules. What an absolute mess! 
    I'm not sure about that. Mercedes barely had any time to decide whether to pit or not after Latifi hit the wall. There's no way they could have known how long the yellow would go on for.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,876
    That was bullshit


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,787
    Max was nowhere near winning that race, then nicked it on the last lap. This season was never going to end quietly, that’s for sure.

    I’m not sure which is worse - seeing Little Man Horner whine like a bitch when they lose, or his smug face when they win.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    tino_11 said:
    I understand people want the championship to end as a race and not with the safety car but rules should be the rules and not enforced because it makes a better spectacle. There was no way this race shouldn’t have ended under the safety car and with that in mind merc made the right call not to pit. Looks foolish with hindsight once Masi decided to implement his own rules. What an absolute mess! 

    I think I agree, under Charlie Whiting, the race ends under the safety car. Masi and his team were very inconsistent the last few races with its decisions on cutting corners, track limits, causing contact etc.  Just a shame the championship outcome is the result of a controversial call. Lewis had him beat.
  • Robbert
    Robbert Rotterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 1,047
    Get_Right said:
    tino_11 said:
    I understand people want the championship to end as a race and not with the safety car but rules should be the rules and not enforced because it makes a better spectacle. There was no way this race shouldn’t have ended under the safety car and with that in mind merc made the right call not to pit. Looks foolish with hindsight once Masi decided to implement his own rules. What an absolute mess! 

    I think I agree, under Charlie Whiting, the race ends under the safety car. Masi and his team were very inconsistent the last few races with its decisions on cutting corners, track limits, causing contact etc.  Just a shame the championship outcome is the result of a controversial call. Lewis had him beat.
    So close....but yet so far
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Get_Right said:
    tino_11 said:
    I understand people want the championship to end as a race and not with the safety car but rules should be the rules and not enforced because it makes a better spectacle. There was no way this race shouldn’t have ended under the safety car and with that in mind merc made the right call not to pit. Looks foolish with hindsight once Masi decided to implement his own rules. What an absolute mess! 

    I think I agree, under Charlie Whiting, the race ends under the safety car. Masi and his team were very inconsistent the last few races with its decisions on cutting corners, track limits, causing contact etc.  Just a shame the championship outcome is the result of a controversial call. Lewis had him beat.
    That was f@#$#d. They (FIA) really seemed to have a focus on providing more actual racing but it was certainly done with inconsistency and questionable choices.  That said I'm glad the DC record still stands tied.
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,894
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  • Robbert
    Robbert Rotterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 1,047
    Pap said:
    1MERCEDES613.5
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    We all know the story bout Ferrari wright? They will back for sure. 

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