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NB1996
NB1996 Posts: 12
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How can it be possible for Ticketmaster to not have a general public sale for Ed's Seattle Benaroya Hall show and yet charge $500 for a single ticket on the third tier?  I don't get how this could possibly happen. I'm 100 percent positive Ed wouldn't go for this bullshit.  How can they sell a ticket for three times face value?  This was not the secondary market.  This was Ticketmaster Verified Fan Platinum tickets.  
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited December 2021
    Have you considered the venue fee/artist fee, and all the costs associated is “x” amount.
    Ticket revenue  need to be “y” amount in total 

    ten club holds back a lot of tickets and sells them below what the average ticket price needs to be. Platinum seats covers that gap and then some 

    platinum seats may very well be subsidising the cost of the 10 club allotment. Giving so many to the fan club no doubt costs them money in lower revenue. Due to how many seats the 10 club wants they may have little control over what TM does with their share 




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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,864
    NB1996 said:
      I'm 100 percent positive Ed wouldn't go for this bullshit.    
    Ticketmaster doesn't do this without that artist signing off on it.
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  • dmbolp
    dmbolp ATL Posts: 1,513
    NB1996 said:
    How can it be possible for Ticketmaster to not have a general public sale for Ed's Seattle Benaroya Hall show and yet charge $500 for a single ticket on the third tier?  I don't get how this could possibly happen. I'm 100 percent positive Ed wouldn't go for this bullshit.  How can they sell a ticket for three times face value?  This was not the secondary market.  This was Ticketmaster Verified Fan Platinum tickets.  
    Because there's only like 2,500 seats and over 10,000 people willing to pay $500
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    I get the feeling Ed doesn't have a lot of stipulations with tickets and costs these days. It certainly isn't 1994 anymore.
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  • jh275312
    jh275312 Posts: 99
    It is very disgusting. If you haven't figured it out yet verified are the worst tickets available, or super expensive ones. just gross. People will still cling to excuses, but it is very sad the changes in values of certain band members.
  • Eddieredder
    Eddieredder Posts: 753
    edited December 2021
    Important distinction. Verified fan and Platinum tickets are two different buckets. I could be wrong here, but the Platinum tickets feel like the Live Nation/Venue/Ticketmaster allottment of tickets. Verified fan is basically the new public sale. Its sold as the way to combat scalpers and bots. But at the same time the scalpers are now in house at TM. 

    True the artist does have to sign off on this. But do they have a choice when the promoter (Live Nation) and the ticket distributor (Ticketmaster) are the same? Remember between the two they control 80% of venues. Its pretty easy to leverage. 

    But in general this article sums it up pretty well. I'd assume there were probably only like 375 tickets available (15%) for verified ticket sale. 

    https://www.theringer.com/2016/6/3/16045790/ticket-industry-problem-solution-e4b3b71fdff6#.hh4d9z77a
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  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,685
    I just saw Mike Watt is playing a show. $15 a ticket. Sometimes big rockers just get too complicated. nnnnnnn nn naaahhhnaaa nnnnNobody's fault but mine.
  • Groda03
    Groda03 Posts: 148
    I feel super fortunate to have won the lottery.   I have missed on past shows.  I'm happy.  Hope everyone has a great night.  
  • speedskater
    speedskater Posts: 33
    evenflow82 said:
    I get the feeling Ed doesn't have a lot of stipulations with tickets and costs these days. It certainly isn't 1994 anymore.
    I miss the old days.
  • GS163319
    GS163319 Posts: 132
    Loujoe said:
    I just saw Mike Watt is playing a show. $15 a ticket. Sometimes big rockers just get too complicated. nnnnnnn nn naaahhhnaaa nnnnNobody's fault but mine.
    Sure, comparing the demand (or really, anything else) for Mike Watt and one of the bigger rock stars of the last 30 years makes sense.
  • pawlowski1097
    pawlowski1097 Philadelphia, PA Posts: 607
    They were off for 3 years, making up for lost time I guess 
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    speedskater said:
    evenflow82 said:
    I get the feeling Ed doesn't have a lot of stipulations with tickets and costs these days. It certainly isn't 1994 anymore.
    I miss the old days.
    $1.50 parking!

    Those tickets were also tough to get.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • Ukuleddie Vegger
    Ukuleddie Vegger Posts: 524
    This ticket cost me a reasonable $60 at the Iconic Troubadour. I wish The Earthlings would have booked this venue.
  • KL159781
    KL159781 Posts: 118
    evenflow82 said:
    I get the feeling Ed doesn't have a lot of stipulations with tickets and costs these days. It certainly isn't 1994 anymore.
    I pretty much guarantee that he could have stood up to Live Nation in negotiations for the tour and said “I am willing to take X amount less on my tour guarantee if you just don’t do Platinum pricing on my fanbase”.
  • patkelly12
    patkelly12 CT Posts: 361
    KL159781 said:
    evenflow82 said:
    I get the feeling Ed doesn't have a lot of stipulations with tickets and costs these days. It certainly isn't 1994 anymore.
    I pretty much guarantee that he could have stood up to Live Nation in negotiations for the tour and said “I am willing to take X amount less on my tour guarantee if you just don’t do Platinum pricing on my fanbase”.

    He absolutely could have but the cucks don't want to hear it. I have seen Platinum pricing for years but the prices today were borderline embarrassing. $900+ for a freaking seat. Even those novelty acts that the cucks like to bash would blush at those prices.
  • Eddieredder
    Eddieredder Posts: 753
    edited December 2021
    patkelly12 said:
    KL159781 said:
    evenflow82 said:
    I get the feeling Ed doesn't have a lot of stipulations with tickets and costs these days. It certainly isn't 1994 anymore.
    I pretty much guarantee that he could have stood up to Live Nation in negotiations for the tour and said “I am willing to take X amount less on my tour guarantee if you just don’t do Platinum pricing on my fanbase”.

    He absolutely could have but the cucks don't want to hear it. I have seen Platinum pricing for years but the prices today were borderline embarrassing. $900+ for a freaking seat. Even those novelty acts that the cucks like to bash would blush at those prices.
    Would be interesting to know the number? Is it $1 mm a show? $500k? How much does LN/TM need to make? Now divide that by the limited number of seats minus the sunk tickets......minus the no resale profits. Now recalculate based on X number of tickets at below market fan club pricing......

    Feels to me like Platinum pricing is the subsidizer. 
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  • Luckytwn1
    Luckytwn1 Posts: 517
    NB1996 said:
    How can it be possible for Ticketmaster to not have a general public sale for Ed's Seattle Benaroya Hall show and yet charge $500 for a single ticket on the third tier?  I don't get how this could possibly happen. I'm 100 percent positive Ed wouldn't go for this bullshit.  How can they sell a ticket for three times face value?  This was not the secondary market.  This was Ticketmaster Verified Fan Platinum tickets.  
    Of course, Ed is going along willingly with it. The artist has the final say. Basically, the promoters are all requiring the use of platinum tickets to hedge against high artist guarantees.  
  • Luckytwn1
    Luckytwn1 Posts: 517
    patkelly12 said:
    KL159781 said:
    evenflow82 said:
    I get the feeling Ed doesn't have a lot of stipulations with tickets and costs these days. It certainly isn't 1994 anymore.
    I pretty much guarantee that he could have stood up to Live Nation in negotiations for the tour and said “I am willing to take X amount less on my tour guarantee if you just don’t do Platinum pricing on my fanbase”.

    He absolutely could have but the cucks don't want to hear it. I have seen Platinum pricing for years but the prices today were borderline embarrassing. $900+ for a freaking seat. Even those novelty acts that the cucks like to bash would blush at those prices.
    $900 platinum seats is nothing unusual these days for any of the major legacy rock artists. Very often the best seats go for even more. The Stones had platinum tickets $2500 and above everywhere. 
  • KL159781
    KL159781 Posts: 118
    Luckytwn1 said:
    patkelly12 said:
    KL159781 said:
    evenflow82 said:
    I get the feeling Ed doesn't have a lot of stipulations with tickets and costs these days. It certainly isn't 1994 anymore.
    I pretty much guarantee that he could have stood up to Live Nation in negotiations for the tour and said “I am willing to take X amount less on my tour guarantee if you just don’t do Platinum pricing on my fanbase”.

    He absolutely could have but the cucks don't want to hear it. I have seen Platinum pricing for years but the prices today were borderline embarrassing. $900+ for a freaking seat. Even those novelty acts that the cucks like to bash would blush at those prices.
    $900 platinum seats is nothing unusual these days for any of the major legacy rock artists. Very often the best seats go for even more. The Stones had platinum tickets $2500 and above everywhere. 
    How big a factor do you think Platinum tickets will be for Springsteen next year? I know they were only tried out sparingly in 2016.
  • Eddieredder
    Eddieredder Posts: 753
    I filtered out the Platinum tix. Got in about 5 mins past. How many would you estimate you saw available? Was it 100? 200? 500? Just curious.

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