POLL - The WEAKEST LINK of AMERICAN BANDS - (Championship) ROUND 1

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    edited December 2021
    Metallica
    The only bands here that I think comes even close to being worthy of this title is Tom Petty and Heartbreakers and REM.  AIC and SG have much too small of a catalog.  GnR had maybe... 3 good releases.  Talking Heads are too quirky and niche. 

    For me, if anyone cares...in kind of an order..

    Bruce, Jimi, Doors, Dead, Petty.  I'm sure I'm forgetting someone, but the legacy of these bands completely overwhelms who is basically left on this list.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Metallica
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    I would disagree with you here. Those bands you mentioned are icons of the next wave of rock. 
    I don't understand... what next wave?
  • OffSheGoes35
    OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,517
    The Ramones
    dankind said:
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




    I could've been wrong for voting CCR, but the Ramones just sounds like one continuous song to me.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Metallica
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    dankind said:
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




    I could've been wrong for voting CCR, but the Ramones just sounds like one continuous song to me.
    CCR absolutely should be a contender for the title. Green River, Cosmo's Factory, Bayou Country, Willy and the Poor Boys... these are records that, end to end, are just fantastic.  No fillers, no soft spots, nothing.  In their 6 year or whatever career, the volume and the quality of music is just amazing.  There's are a reason they were the headline at Woodstock.  And they sounded completely different than what anyone else was doing.  It wasn't Haight music, it wasn't Laurel Canyon or the British Invasion.  They had their own deal.  
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Metallica
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    dankind said:
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




    I could've been wrong for voting CCR, but the Ramones just sounds like one continuous song to me.

    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • OffSheGoes35
    OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,517
    The Ramones
    mrussel1 said:
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    dankind said:
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




    I could've been wrong for voting CCR, but the Ramones just sounds like one continuous song to me.
    CCR absolutely should be a contender for the title. Green River, Cosmo's Factory, Bayou Country, Willy and the Poor Boys... these are records that, end to end, are just fantastic.  No fillers, no soft spots, nothing.  In their 6 year or whatever career, the volume and the quality of music is just amazing.  There's are a reason they were the headline at Woodstock.  And they sounded completely different than what anyone else was doing.  It wasn't Haight music, it wasn't Laurel Canyon or the British Invasion.  They had their own deal.  
    Yes, and also there is this reason...

    https://youtu.be/sMYJqw552ws
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Guns N' Roses
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    dankind said:
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




    I could've been wrong for voting CCR, but the Ramones just sounds like one continuous song to me.
    You need to be forcibly removed from the grounds.

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Talking Heads
    C’mon! 
    www.cluthelee.com
  • OffSheGoes35
    OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,517
    The Ramones
    If Hobbes is against me, I might as well leave. :heartbreak:
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    Hobbes said:
    A fine collection of bands, but the list of British bands (minus Oasis and Radiohead) trounces this list of American bands.

    Curious, @MedozK what would have been your list of ten American bands had you conducted this poll in the traditional way?
    I don't even know, its kinda why I went with a grouping of 40. To me it was WAY to hard to narrow down to 10 just in my mind.
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    Yea, a lot of those classic bands were voted out in the preliminaries. To me the Doors and CCR should there, but I can see how others may not think so.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,500
    Talking Heads
    dankind said:
    Man, I've got two new members to add to the list.

    @tempo_n_groove (No. 1) No surprise you're voting out the Heads.

    But @HughFreakingDillon claims to be a goddamn bass player, and he's essentially voting out one of the most savage bass players ever to have roamed the earth. 


    I’m a Talking Heads fan and seeing Byrne live is one of my fav shows ever…
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,805
    Guns N' Roses
    If I was asked for a list of Greatest American bands, I think REM would be the only ones on this list to make my Top 10
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Metallica
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    Yea, a lot of those classic bands were voted out in the preliminaries. To me the Doors and CCR should there, but I can see how others may not think so.
    Fuckin' commies 
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Guns N' Roses
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    I would disagree with you here. Those bands you mentioned are icons of the next wave of rock. 
    I don't understand... what next wave?
    The bands you mentioned are all the 70s and 80s bands. A lot of us PJ faithful are 90s kids. Metallica, AIC and SG are more important to us than CCR, the Doors, the Dead etc. 
    Respect those bands, but there is no emotional attachment that comes from them being a part of your formative years, unless your parents were fans and you spun their records.  

    They are important, but so are the giants of the 90s

  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Guns N' Roses
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    If Hobbes is against me, I might as well leave. :heartbreak:
    If you had better taste in music and voted accordingly, then I wouldn't be against you. Duh.
  • OffSheGoes35
    OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,517
    The Ramones
    Hobbes said:
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    If Hobbes is against me, I might as well leave. :heartbreak:
    If you had better taste in music and voted accordingly, then I wouldn't be against you. Duh.
    We voted pretty much the same on the majority of these rounds. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Metallica
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    I would disagree with you here. Those bands you mentioned are icons of the next wave of rock. 
    I don't understand... what next wave?
    The bands you mentioned are all the 70s and 80s bands. A lot of us PJ faithful are 90s kids. Metallica, AIC and SG are more important to us than CCR, the Doors, the Dead etc. 
    Respect those bands, but there is no emotional attachment that comes from them being a part of your formative years, unless your parents were fans and you spun their records.  

    They are important, but so are the giants of the 90s

    I understand as I graduated high school in 91, so I was 18 when it all hit.  And I did the whole scene, saw them all including Nirvana, Lolla 92, etc. However, I just think the classic era was superior and the legacy more important.  For me, the 90s as a great music decade ended by 95, 96.  By that point the great bands were established and everything else was derivative, in an awful way.  It was a short run.  

    And if you’re talking about the real giants of the classic era, then you’re on the Beatles, Stones, zep and Floyd.  And you can’t compare anyone in the 90s to those monsters.  I just think there were far more great, great bands in that era than in the 80s and 90s and certainly since then.  
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Guns N' Roses
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    I would disagree with you here. Those bands you mentioned are icons of the next wave of rock. 
    I don't understand... what next wave?
    The bands you mentioned are all the 70s and 80s bands. A lot of us PJ faithful are 90s kids. Metallica, AIC and SG are more important to us than CCR, the Doors, the Dead etc. 
    Respect those bands, but there is no emotional attachment that comes from them being a part of your formative years, unless your parents were fans and you spun their records.  

    They are important, but so are the giants of the 90s

    I understand as I graduated high school in 91, so I was 18 when it all hit.  And I did the whole scene, saw them all including Nirvana, Lolla 92, etc. However, I just think the classic era was superior and the legacy more important.  For me, the 90s as a great music decade ended by 95, 96.  By that point the great bands were established and everything else was derivative, in an awful way.  It was a short run.  

    And if you’re talking about the real giants of the classic era, then you’re on the Beatles, Stones, zep and Floyd.  And you can’t compare anyone in the 90s to those monsters.  I just think there were far more great, great bands in that era than in the 80s and 90s and certainly since then.  
    All the bands you just mentioned were British… that was the other poll. We are talking about American bands here. 
    Anyways, we can agree to disagree. Legacy is one part of what makes a band great. Anyways this is all fun.  I can’t vote for a band that I own a greatest hits record (Doors) over a band I have their entire discography (SG or AIC) 

  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Guns N' Roses
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    Hobbes said:
    OffSheGoes35 said:
    If Hobbes is against me, I might as well leave. :heartbreak:
    If you had better taste in music and voted accordingly, then I wouldn't be against you. Duh.
    We voted pretty much the same on the majority of these rounds. 
    And we were cruising right along before you spun out of control with this round's vote and comment on The Ramones.

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