POLL - The WEAKEST LINK of AMERICAN BANDS - (Championship) ROUND 1

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Metallica
    mrussel1 said:
    Metallica is voted out for being douche bags since 1991. 
    Until it sleeps is their best song.

    Deal with it.
    I feel like we've covered this ground already!

    I personally love that they decided in 91 that writing a pro war song like Don't Tread on Me was a better economic decision for them.  Bully for them.  I guess they think we all forgot about Disposable Heroes,  One and For Whom the Bell Tolls.... or maybe they think we never cared about the lyrics. 
  • Talking Heads
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Metallica is voted out for being douche bags since 1991. 
    Until it sleeps is their best song.

    Deal with it.
    I feel like we've covered this ground already!

    I personally love that they decided in 91 that writing a pro war song like Don't Tread on Me was a better economic decision for them.  Bully for them.  I guess they think we all forgot about Disposable Heroes,  One and For Whom the Bell Tolls.... or maybe they think we never cared about the lyrics. 
    Hetfield also said "Don't Tread On Me, I love the song, but it shocked a lot of people, because everyone thought it was pro-war when they thought we were anti-war, and all we're doing is writing songs, we're not standing politically on any side. "Don't Tread On Me" was just one of those 'don't fuck with us' songs, and obviously referencing the flag and the snake and what it meant, that all tied into the black album and the snake icon on the album cover, and I think it's great to play that song live. We're over here in Europe playing it, and people aren't appalled by the songs. We haven't played it in Iraq or Iran yet, though."

    I never took it as pro-war. I always thought it was a "don't fuck with the us" using the US as metaphor for the band. 

    Sure glad I never got that snake tattoo as a late teenager, if what you're saying is true, though. 
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  • jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,957
    Alice in Chains
    AIC is a great band, but they're nowhere close to a top ten list for Greatest American Band
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Metallica
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Metallica is voted out for being douche bags since 1991. 
    Until it sleeps is their best song.

    Deal with it.
    I feel like we've covered this ground already!

    I personally love that they decided in 91 that writing a pro war song like Don't Tread on Me was a better economic decision for them.  Bully for them.  I guess they think we all forgot about Disposable Heroes,  One and For Whom the Bell Tolls.... or maybe they think we never cared about the lyrics. 
    Hetfield also said "Don't Tread On Me, I love the song, but it shocked a lot of people, because everyone thought it was pro-war when they thought we were anti-war, and all we're doing is writing songs, we're not standing politically on any side. "Don't Tread On Me" was just one of those 'don't fuck with us' songs, and obviously referencing the flag and the snake and what it meant, that all tied into the black album and the snake icon on the album cover, and I think it's great to play that song live. We're over here in Europe playing it, and people aren't appalled by the songs. We haven't played it in Iraq or Iran yet, though."

    I never took it as pro-war. I always thought it was a "don't fuck with the us" using the US as metaphor for the band. 

    Sure glad I never got that snake tattoo as a late teenager, if what you're saying is true, though. 
    I call bullshit on him.  The lyrics are so clearly jingoism, and remember this was released during the Gulf War.  "Liberty or Death" "Love it or Leave it" "To secure peace is, to prepare for war".  Toby Keith could have wrote this shit. 
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,446
    Guns N' Roses
    mrussel1 said:
    Metallica is voted out for being douche bags since 1991. 
    Until it sleeps is their best song.

    Deal with it.
    Nope.
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,055
    Guns N' Roses
    I see Metallica taking this.
    i think soundgarden

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    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    edited December 2021
    Metallica
    Man, I've got two new members to add to the list.

    @tempo_n_groove (No. 1) No surprise you're voting out the Heads.

    But @HughFreakingDillon claims to be a goddamn bass player, and he's essentially voting out one of the most savage bass players ever to have roamed the earth. 


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  • Talking Heads
    yes, I am a bass player. I didn't realize that meant I had to vote in lock step with that instrument. lol
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,446
    Guns N' Roses
    jjflash said:
    AIC is a great band, but they're nowhere close to a top ten list for Greatest American Band
    Agreed, but I think they're better than GnR
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    Metallica
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    edited December 2021
    Metallica
    The only bands here that I think comes even close to being worthy of this title is Tom Petty and Heartbreakers and REM.  AIC and SG have much too small of a catalog.  GnR had maybe... 3 good releases.  Talking Heads are too quirky and niche. 

    For me, if anyone cares...in kind of an order..

    Bruce, Jimi, Doors, Dead, Petty.  I'm sure I'm forgetting someone, but the legacy of these bands completely overwhelms who is basically left on this list.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Metallica
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    I would disagree with you here. Those bands you mentioned are icons of the next wave of rock. 
    I don't understand... what next wave?
  • The Ramones
    dankind said:
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




    I could've been wrong for voting CCR, but the Ramones just sounds like one continuous song to me.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Metallica
    dankind said:
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




    I could've been wrong for voting CCR, but the Ramones just sounds like one continuous song to me.
    CCR absolutely should be a contender for the title. Green River, Cosmo's Factory, Bayou Country, Willy and the Poor Boys... these are records that, end to end, are just fantastic.  No fillers, no soft spots, nothing.  In their 6 year or whatever career, the volume and the quality of music is just amazing.  There's are a reason they were the headline at Woodstock.  And they sounded completely different than what anyone else was doing.  It wasn't Haight music, it wasn't Laurel Canyon or the British Invasion.  They had their own deal.  
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    Metallica
    dankind said:
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




    I could've been wrong for voting CCR, but the Ramones just sounds like one continuous song to me.

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  • The Ramones
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




    I could've been wrong for voting CCR, but the Ramones just sounds like one continuous song to me.
    CCR absolutely should be a contender for the title. Green River, Cosmo's Factory, Bayou Country, Willy and the Poor Boys... these are records that, end to end, are just fantastic.  No fillers, no soft spots, nothing.  In their 6 year or whatever career, the volume and the quality of music is just amazing.  There's are a reason they were the headline at Woodstock.  And they sounded completely different than what anyone else was doing.  It wasn't Haight music, it wasn't Laurel Canyon or the British Invasion.  They had their own deal.  
    Yes, and also there is this reason...

    https://youtu.be/sMYJqw552ws
  • HobbesHobbes Posts: 6,423
    Guns N' Roses
    dankind said:
    And @OffSheGoes35 First Creedence, and now the Ramones?




    I could've been wrong for voting CCR, but the Ramones just sounds like one continuous song to me.
    You need to be forcibly removed from the grounds.

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  • Talking Heads
    C’mon! 
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  • The Ramones
    If Hobbes is against me, I might as well leave. :heartbreak:
  • MedozKMedozK Posts: 9,209
    Hobbes said:
    A fine collection of bands, but the list of British bands (minus Oasis and Radiohead) trounces this list of American bands.

    Curious, @MedozK what would have been your list of ten American bands had you conducted this poll in the traditional way?
    I don't even know, its kinda why I went with a grouping of 40. To me it was WAY to hard to narrow down to 10 just in my mind.
  • MedozKMedozK Posts: 9,209
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    Yea, a lot of those classic bands were voted out in the preliminaries. To me the Doors and CCR should there, but I can see how others may not think so.
  • Talking Heads
    dankind said:
    Man, I've got two new members to add to the list.

    @tempo_n_groove (No. 1) No surprise you're voting out the Heads.

    But @HughFreakingDillon claims to be a goddamn bass player, and he's essentially voting out one of the most savage bass players ever to have roamed the earth. 


    I’m a Talking Heads fan and seeing Byrne live is one of my fav shows ever…
  • goldrushgoldrush Posts: 7,534
    Guns N' Roses
    If I was asked for a list of Greatest American bands, I think REM would be the only ones on this list to make my Top 10
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Metallica
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    Yea, a lot of those classic bands were voted out in the preliminaries. To me the Doors and CCR should there, but I can see how others may not think so.
    Fuckin' commies 
  • Guns N' Roses
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    I would disagree with you here. Those bands you mentioned are icons of the next wave of rock. 
    I don't understand... what next wave?
    The bands you mentioned are all the 70s and 80s bands. A lot of us PJ faithful are 90s kids. Metallica, AIC and SG are more important to us than CCR, the Doors, the Dead etc. 
    Respect those bands, but there is no emotional attachment that comes from them being a part of your formative years, unless your parents were fans and you spun their records.  

    They are important, but so are the giants of the 90s

  • HobbesHobbes Posts: 6,423
    Guns N' Roses
    If Hobbes is against me, I might as well leave. :heartbreak:
    If you had better taste in music and voted accordingly, then I wouldn't be against you. Duh.
  • The Ramones
    Hobbes said:
    If Hobbes is against me, I might as well leave. :heartbreak:
    If you had better taste in music and voted accordingly, then I wouldn't be against you. Duh.
    We voted pretty much the same on the majority of these rounds. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Metallica
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    I would disagree with you here. Those bands you mentioned are icons of the next wave of rock. 
    I don't understand... what next wave?
    The bands you mentioned are all the 70s and 80s bands. A lot of us PJ faithful are 90s kids. Metallica, AIC and SG are more important to us than CCR, the Doors, the Dead etc. 
    Respect those bands, but there is no emotional attachment that comes from them being a part of your formative years, unless your parents were fans and you spun their records.  

    They are important, but so are the giants of the 90s

    I understand as I graduated high school in 91, so I was 18 when it all hit.  And I did the whole scene, saw them all including Nirvana, Lolla 92, etc. However, I just think the classic era was superior and the legacy more important.  For me, the 90s as a great music decade ended by 95, 96.  By that point the great bands were established and everything else was derivative, in an awful way.  It was a short run.  

    And if you’re talking about the real giants of the classic era, then you’re on the Beatles, Stones, zep and Floyd.  And you can’t compare anyone in the 90s to those monsters.  I just think there were far more great, great bands in that era than in the 80s and 90s and certainly since then.  
  • Guns N' Roses
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I missed the early rounds, but were the classic rock era bands purposely omitted?

    It would be hard to have a list like this without the Dead, Doors, Bruce, Hendrix (although maybe the Experience is considered British?), etc.  To me, there's no world where the Talking Heads, Metallica, AIC, SG, compete favorably with the very icons of our favorite music.  
    I would disagree with you here. Those bands you mentioned are icons of the next wave of rock. 
    I don't understand... what next wave?
    The bands you mentioned are all the 70s and 80s bands. A lot of us PJ faithful are 90s kids. Metallica, AIC and SG are more important to us than CCR, the Doors, the Dead etc. 
    Respect those bands, but there is no emotional attachment that comes from them being a part of your formative years, unless your parents were fans and you spun their records.  

    They are important, but so are the giants of the 90s

    I understand as I graduated high school in 91, so I was 18 when it all hit.  And I did the whole scene, saw them all including Nirvana, Lolla 92, etc. However, I just think the classic era was superior and the legacy more important.  For me, the 90s as a great music decade ended by 95, 96.  By that point the great bands were established and everything else was derivative, in an awful way.  It was a short run.  

    And if you’re talking about the real giants of the classic era, then you’re on the Beatles, Stones, zep and Floyd.  And you can’t compare anyone in the 90s to those monsters.  I just think there were far more great, great bands in that era than in the 80s and 90s and certainly since then.  
    All the bands you just mentioned were British… that was the other poll. We are talking about American bands here. 
    Anyways, we can agree to disagree. Legacy is one part of what makes a band great. Anyways this is all fun.  I can’t vote for a band that I own a greatest hits record (Doors) over a band I have their entire discography (SG or AIC) 

  • HobbesHobbes Posts: 6,423
    Guns N' Roses
    Hobbes said:
    If Hobbes is against me, I might as well leave. :heartbreak:
    If you had better taste in music and voted accordingly, then I wouldn't be against you. Duh.
    We voted pretty much the same on the majority of these rounds. 
    And we were cruising right along before you spun out of control with this round's vote and comment on The Ramones.

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