nicknyr15 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

On the cover of 2 very different newspapers has the border "crisis" on the cover and both pretty scathing towards Biden.

The Post says that people are being let in despite what the White House tells us then the NYT says the the Biden admin is extremely tough on the migrants and turning them away in droves.

What a joke. People will believe which ever one they agree with. 

Gern Blansten said:

It is interesting to see republicans care about the treatment of immigrants now...you would think they would be cheering the deportations and whippings

Being disingenuous is a state of mind for those people. Same thing with out of control spending that they overlooked the last four years and now suddenly care are about again. There are countless examples of this. 

The Homeland Security Department has been busing Haitians from Del Rio to El Paso, Laredo and the Rio Grande Valley along the Texas border, and this week added flights to Tucson, Arizona, the official said. They are processed by the Border Patrol at those locations.

A second U.S. official, also with direct knowledge and speaking on the condition of anonymity, said large numbers of Haitians were being processed under immigration laws and not being placed on expulsion flights to Haiti that started Sunday. The official couldn't be more specific about how many.

For Haitians hoping to get to the United States, the administration's decision to release many people is a welcome relief.

Three hours after leaving the makeshift camp under the International Bridge with his pregnant wife, Mackenson Veillard stood outside a gas station in Del Rio, Texas waiting on a Greyhound Bus to take the couple to a cousin who is living in San Antonio.

Veillard was one of many to be processed and released on Monday, possibly because his wife is expecting their first child in two months.

“I felt so stressed,” Veillard said. “But now, I feel better. It’s like I’m starting a new life.”

However, the decision to release many Haitians, particularly without a clearly stated criteria for who stays and who gets returned to Haiti, will likely add to criticism of the White House, which is already facing bipartisan condemnation. Republicans say Biden administration policies led Haitians to believe they would get asylum. Democrats are expressing outrage after images went viral this week of Border Patrol agents on horseback using aggressive tactics against the migrants.

Advocates also don’t know how many of the immigrants have been deported so far and how many have been released into the U.S., he said.

What information attorneys and advocates have been able to find out has come from interviews they have conducted in Del Rio with dozens of immigrants who have been released into the U.S.

U.S. authorities scrambled in recent days for buses to Tucson but resorted to flights when they couldn’t find enough transportation contractors, both officials said. Coast Guard planes took Haitians from Del Rio to El Paso.

The releases in the U.S. were occurring despite the signaling of a massive effort to expel Haitians on flights to Haiti under pandemic-related authority that denies migrants an opportunity to seek asylum. A third U.S. official not authorized to discuss operations said there were seven daily flights to Haiti planned starting Wednesday.

Accounts of wide-scale releases — some observed at the Del Rio bus station by Associated Press journalists — are at odds with statements a day earlier by Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, who traveled to Del Rio to promise swift action.

“If you come to the United States illegally, you will be returned, your journey will not succeed, and you will be endangering your life and your family’s life,” he said at a Monday news conference.

The releases come amid a quick effort to empty the camp under a bridge that, according to some estimates, held more than 14,000 people over the weekend in a town of 35,000 people. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, during a visit Tuesday to Del Rio, said the county’s top official told him the most recent tally at the camp was about 8,600 migrants.

The criteria for deciding who is flown to Haiti and who is released in the U.S. was unclear, but two U.S. officials said single adults were the priority for expulsion flights.

Meanwhile, Mexico has begun busing and flying Haitian migrants away from the U.S. border, authorities said Tuesday, signaling a new level of support for the United States as the camp presented President Joe Biden with a humanitarian and increasingly political challenge.

Mexico has helped at key moments before. It intensified patrols to stop unaccompanied Central American children from reaching the Texas border in 2014, allowed tens of thousands of asylum-seekers to wait in Mexico for hearings in U.S. immigration courts in 2019 and, just last month, began deporting Central American migrants to Guatemala after the Biden administration flew them to southern Mexico.

BOO!

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

The buck stops at Joe.  What a mess…:
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-haitian-migrants-swimming-into-mexico-avoid-deported-us-authorities-2021-9

Whips, Sleepy Joe pushing to continue Trump’s “Title 42” expulsions…WTF!
Whips being used on black people by federal customs authorities cannot be good for the approval ratings, so no wonder they are trying to keep the media away

US Customs and Border Patrol agents were photographed using whips to prevent Haitian migrants from joining the other Haitian migrants in Del Rio, Texas.

So I saw the video of this.  It's crowd control tactics to control a crowd.  No one was whipped.

I heard Kamala say she was appalled.

I'm actually confused on what the border patrol agents' job is anymore.

Not to mention there were no whips to begin with.

I get where they are coming from in saying "whips". That thing they are whipping/flailing around that directs the horse is what they are talking about.  I don't ride so I don't know what that is called.

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

The buck stops at Joe.  What a mess…:
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-haitian-migrants-swimming-into-mexico-avoid-deported-us-authorities-2021-9

Whips, Sleepy Joe pushing to continue Trump’s “Title 42” expulsions…WTF!
Whips being used on black people by federal customs authorities cannot be good for the approval ratings, so no wonder they are trying to keep the media away

US Customs and Border Patrol agents were photographed using whips to prevent Haitian migrants from joining the other Haitian migrants in Del Rio, Texas.

So I saw the video of this.  It's crowd control tactics to control a crowd.  No one was whipped.

I heard Kamala say she was appalled.

I'm actually confused on what the border patrol agents' job is anymore.

Not to mention there were no whips to begin with.

I get where they are coming from in saying "whips". That thing they are whipping/flailing around that directs the horse is what they are talking about.  I don't ride so I don't know what that is called.

Aren’t they just the reins? That’s what it looks like to me. Everyone knows what a rein is, and I know nothing about riding horses. The wooden horse we got our 2 year old has a rein on it. Everyone knows the expression “rein it in.” I just don’t buy any journalist doesn’t know what a rein is and thought they were whips.Claiming they are whipping people gives an image that are riding around with actual whips, and , you know, using them on people. When in reality they were just reins and from all the video I saw, no one was actually whipped.
Now some sources did say they were using reins as whips, but the first stories I saw the first day this broke said they were using whips. Including the link posted here.

PJPOWER said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

The buck stops at Joe.  What a mess…:
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-haitian-migrants-swimming-into-mexico-avoid-deported-us-authorities-2021-9

Whips, Sleepy Joe pushing to continue Trump’s “Title 42” expulsions…WTF!
Whips being used on black people by federal customs authorities cannot be good for the approval ratings, so no wonder they are trying to keep the media away

US Customs and Border Patrol agents were photographed using whips to prevent Haitian migrants from joining the other Haitian migrants in Del Rio, Texas.

So I saw the video of this.  It's crowd control tactics to control a crowd.  No one was whipped.

I heard Kamala say she was appalled.

I'm actually confused on what the border patrol agents' job is anymore.

Not to mention there were no whips to begin with.

I get where they are coming from in saying "whips". That thing they are whipping/flailing around that directs the horse is what they are talking about.  I don't ride so I don't know what that is called.

Aren’t they just the reins? That’s what it looks like to me. Everyone knows what a rein is, and I know nothing about riding horses. The wooden horse we got our 2 year old has a rein on it. Everyone knows the expression “rein it in.” I just don’t buy any journalist doesn’t know what a rein is and thought they were whips.Claiming they are whipping people gives an image that are riding around with actual whips, and , you know, using them on people. When in reality they were just reins and from all the video I saw, no one was actually whipped.
Now some sources did say they were using reins as whips, but the first stories I saw the first day this broke said they were using whips. Including the link posted here.

They are reins, but you can definitely “whip” someone with a rein.  In the image below, you can see how long the reins are and the aggressiveness of the person on horseback.