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Video of situation at Del Rio Texas right now.Wow. That's a lot of people. I applaud WCK for their help.
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Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:I don’t see it as a huge leap to understand there are more immigrants in facilities now than a year ago, so yeah I predict they are more crowded. I haven’t seen any claims of improvements or changes that got so many so riled up a year ago. I don’t understand why that’s difficult to predict? I guess we’ll just disagree and you can believe they are fancy resorts now.
Your articles, at least the ones I read, point out the difference between death and concentration camps. So sure, I’ll give you that they can be called a concentration camp under the technical sense. But the common use of that phrase is in comparison to Nazi germany and the death camps. And someone like AOC making false claims about being forced to drink from the toilet and calling it a concentration camp, I’m not giving her the benefit of the doubt that she was strictly speaking in a technical sense. The fact is they were outraged a year ago about chain link fences, the plumbing, the foil blankets, crowded conditions, etc.. And for some reason that all became okay in January. No more outrage over that. No more calling it a concentration camp. And with higher numbers and no press allowed to cover it too.
Do you think it was purposeful defunding of detention centers, closings (to fund the wall) and internal policy changes implemented by POOTWH’s Administration to treat people like shit, more akin to “concentration camps,” (separating children from their parent(s), lack of or slow walking due process, held without hearings, reductions in immigration judges, and purposefully denying food, medical care, running water) in violation of court ordered agreement and law? Do you not see the difference? Dems had to go to court to gain access to the facilities because word was out about conditions and POOTWH fired his head of DHS when she publicly admitted they were failing and gave the reasons why.
You haven’t seen or heard of any changes since 2018-19? Biden ended separating kids within 30 days of taking office. Probably doesn’t count though, right?
Did you read the CRS Report I linked? Probably not. It describes what the POOTWH Administration did and what changes they made. Changes that were detrimental and created the mess to begin with.Typical Con tactic now, create a crisis and then scream how it’s everyone else’s fault. How long did we hear about the crisis of the caravans? What did POOTWH do to prepare for them? Nothing, that’s what.
But because Biden is POTUS, it’s probably worse. Same-same, unless you think POOTWH was outstanding on the immigration issue?AND LETS NOT FORGET THE FORCED HYSTERECTOMIES AT A PRIVATE DETENTION CENTER IN GEORGIA NOR THE PHYSICAL ABUSE RAMPANT AT A SHERIFF’s DEPARTMENT DETENTION CENTER IN MASSACHUSETTS. Both of which have been reportedly closed since Biden took office.
Also my comment wasn't about Trump vs Biden. It was about how we heard so much criticism about the horrible conditions. And now the press is restricted on what they can even see and those same people don't seem as upset. Again, I'm not debating Trump vs Biden. Just pointing out the change in attitude from some people. Where's AOC saying they're drinking out of toilets? Where's people saying they're locked up in cages like animals again? I'm pretty sure the plumbing hasn't changed and they still use chain link.0 -
US Department of State’s annual report to Congress on the plan for the next fiscal year’s refugee settlement program if you’re interested.
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Proposed-Refugee-Admissions-for-FY22-Report-to-Congress.pdf
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except more are being turned back immediately than allowed entry
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Haiti can't catch a break...
I am surprised that they are coming through Mexico. Why not to Florida. Isn't that closer?0 -
tempo_n_groove said:Haiti can't catch a break...
I am surprised that they are coming through Mexico. Why not to Florida. Isn't that closer?
those are primarily Haitians who left long ago. Most articles say after 2010 earthquake. Down into S America. Coming up through C America
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The buck stops at Joe. What a mess…:
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-haitian-migrants-swimming-into-mexico-avoid-deported-us-authorities-2021-9Whips, Sleepy Joe pushing to continue Trump’s “Title 42” expulsions…WTF!
Whips being used on black people by federal customs authorities cannot be good for the approval ratings, so no wonder they are trying to keep the media awayUS Customs and Border Patrol agents were photographed using whips to prevent Haitian migrants from joining the other Haitian migrants in Del Rio, Texas.
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mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:Haiti can't catch a break...
I am surprised that they are coming through Mexico. Why not to Florida. Isn't that closer?
those are primarily Haitians who left long ago. Most articles say after 2010 earthquake. Down into S America. Coming up through C America
Man that is one angle I find hard to believe.0 -
mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Biden’s and the Dems’ immigration policy.
https://joebiden.com/immigration/
POOTWH’s and repubs’? “We’ll protect our whiteness.”
https://sgp.fas.org/crs/homesec/R45266.pdf
But you know, it’s probably worse.
As for AOC and her remarks, seems she wasn’t too far off the mark, according to people who study this stuff. Knowing what we know both pre and post POOTWH, what’s different?
Hey, but I’m not the smartest 24/7.And AOC was ridiculous. She’s way off. Anyone who thinks conditions of detainment centers are like those of the Holocaust needs to take a world history class again and learn what those victims suffered through. I’m sure they would have traded those gas chambers for those standard jail style sink-toilets any day.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
mickeyrat said:except more are being turned back immediately than allowed entry09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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PJPOWER said:The buck stops at Joe. What a mess…:
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-haitian-migrants-swimming-into-mexico-avoid-deported-us-authorities-2021-9Whips, Sleepy Joe pushing to continue Trump’s “Title 42” expulsions…WTF!
Whips being used on black people by federal customs authorities cannot be good for the approval ratings, so no wonder they are trying to keep the media awayUS Customs and Border Patrol agents were photographed using whips to prevent Haitian migrants from joining the other Haitian migrants in Del Rio, Texas.
I heard Kamala say she was appalled.
I'm actually confused on what the border patrol agents' job is anymore.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:Haiti can't catch a break...
I am surprised that they are coming through Mexico. Why not to Florida. Isn't that closer?
those are primarily Haitians who left long ago. Most articles say after 2010 earthquake. Down into S America. Coming up through C America
Man that is one angle I find hard to believe.work. many landed in Rio for the olympics. others found work in Chile.So it wasnt a 10 yr journey. But whatever led them to decide now is the time. As with most immigrants, work has to be top of the list or very near so..._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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tempo_n_groove said:PJPOWER said:The buck stops at Joe. What a mess…:
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-haitian-migrants-swimming-into-mexico-avoid-deported-us-authorities-2021-9Whips, Sleepy Joe pushing to continue Trump’s “Title 42” expulsions…WTF!
Whips being used on black people by federal customs authorities cannot be good for the approval ratings, so no wonder they are trying to keep the media awayUS Customs and Border Patrol agents were photographed using whips to prevent Haitian migrants from joining the other Haitian migrants in Del Rio, Texas.
I heard Kamala say she was appalled.
I'm actually confused on what the border patrol agents' job is anymore.
'Where Is She?' MSNBC Host Rips Kamala Harris For Being a Miserable Failure on the Border (townhall.com)
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mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:Haiti can't catch a break...
I am surprised that they are coming through Mexico. Why not to Florida. Isn't that closer?
those are primarily Haitians who left long ago. Most articles say after 2010 earthquake. Down into S America. Coming up through C America
Man that is one angle I find hard to believe.work. many landed in Rio for the olympics. others found work in Chile.So it wasnt a 10 yr journey. But whatever led them to decide now is the time. As with most immigrants, work has to be top of the list or very near so...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:except more are being turned back immediately than allowed entrydidnt quote cuz not a fan of that poster but this was in response to assertions that haitians are flooding the country. typical bullshit that gets clarification later.....Believe this rise to pre-fuckstick levels was announced early on wasnt it? or plans to do so? campaign promise?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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tempo_n_groove said:PJPOWER said:The buck stops at Joe. What a mess…:
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-haitian-migrants-swimming-into-mexico-avoid-deported-us-authorities-2021-9Whips, Sleepy Joe pushing to continue Trump’s “Title 42” expulsions…WTF!
Whips being used on black people by federal customs authorities cannot be good for the approval ratings, so no wonder they are trying to keep the media awayUS Customs and Border Patrol agents were photographed using whips to prevent Haitian migrants from joining the other Haitian migrants in Del Rio, Texas.
I heard Kamala say she was appalled.
I'm actually confused on what the border patrol agents' job is anymore.0 -
mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:Haiti can't catch a break...
I am surprised that they are coming through Mexico. Why not to Florida. Isn't that closer?
those are primarily Haitians who left long ago. Most articles say after 2010 earthquake. Down into S America. Coming up through C America
Man that is one angle I find hard to believe.work. many landed in Rio for the olympics. others found work in Chile.So it wasnt a 10 yr journey. But whatever led them to decide now is the time. As with most immigrants, work has to be top of the list or very near so...
When they interview some of them I guess we will find out more on how.
I'm very interested on that journey.0 -
mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:except more are being turned back immediately than allowed entrydidnt quote cuz not a fan of that poster but this was in response to assertions that haitians are flooding the country. typical bullshit that gets clarification later.....Believe this rise to pre-fuckstick levels was announced early on wasnt it? or plans to do so? campaign promise?
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tempo_n_groove said:PJPOWER said:The buck stops at Joe. What a mess…:
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-haitian-migrants-swimming-into-mexico-avoid-deported-us-authorities-2021-9Whips, Sleepy Joe pushing to continue Trump’s “Title 42” expulsions…WTF!
Whips being used on black people by federal customs authorities cannot be good for the approval ratings, so no wonder they are trying to keep the media awayUS Customs and Border Patrol agents were photographed using whips to prevent Haitian migrants from joining the other Haitian migrants in Del Rio, Texas.
I heard Kamala say she was appalled.
I'm actually confused on what the border patrol agents' job is anymore.0 -
mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:PJPOWER said:The buck stops at Joe. What a mess…:
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-haitian-migrants-swimming-into-mexico-avoid-deported-us-authorities-2021-9Whips, Sleepy Joe pushing to continue Trump’s “Title 42” expulsions…WTF!
Whips being used on black people by federal customs authorities cannot be good for the approval ratings, so no wonder they are trying to keep the media awayUS Customs and Border Patrol agents were photographed using whips to prevent Haitian migrants from joining the other Haitian migrants in Del Rio, Texas.
I heard Kamala say she was appalled.
I'm actually confused on what the border patrol agents' job is anymore.0
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