Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez
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Not a huge AOC fan either but at least "tax the rich" is not nearly as confusing as "defund the police." At least it is direct and to the point.www.myspace.com0
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you are one person in the middle.mrussel1 said:
I disagree with this. Success is moving the middle, not preaching to the choir.. As someone in teh middle, she didn't move me.HughFreakingDillon said:
disagree. we wouldn't be talking about her message today had she not done this.Poncier said:
I said it was hypocritical because she was attending said event, an event strictly for the elite, so her message is tone deaf at beast and to me hypocritical. She claims to be for the little people but she's attending one of the highest profile galas for the elite.HughFreakingDillon said:criticism is healthy, but it's key to understand what and why you are criticizing. I'd like to know why it's hypocritical to go to an exclusive event and promote a message to close the economic gap? that's exactly the audience you need to reach to gain those things in society, and to get people talking. talking to poor people is all fine and dandy, understanding their problems, but if you don't promote that message to the elite, you won't get anywhere.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/style/2021/09/14/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-met-gala-designer-dress-newday-vpx.cnn
Spreading her message is fine but spreading that message while attending the Met Gala shows me she really doesn't get it.
that's called a successful outing.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
And I'm very inclined to liberal arguments too. Our local Rangers fan seems to feel the same way as me though.HughFreakingDillon said:
you are one person in the middle.mrussel1 said:
I disagree with this. Success is moving the middle, not preaching to the choir.. As someone in teh middle, she didn't move me.HughFreakingDillon said:
disagree. we wouldn't be talking about her message today had she not done this.Poncier said:
I said it was hypocritical because she was attending said event, an event strictly for the elite, so her message is tone deaf at beast and to me hypocritical. She claims to be for the little people but she's attending one of the highest profile galas for the elite.HughFreakingDillon said:criticism is healthy, but it's key to understand what and why you are criticizing. I'd like to know why it's hypocritical to go to an exclusive event and promote a message to close the economic gap? that's exactly the audience you need to reach to gain those things in society, and to get people talking. talking to poor people is all fine and dandy, understanding their problems, but if you don't promote that message to the elite, you won't get anywhere.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/style/2021/09/14/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-met-gala-designer-dress-newday-vpx.cnn
Spreading her message is fine but spreading that message while attending the Met Gala shows me she really doesn't get it.
that's called a successful outing.0 -
I like her more after this, not less.
(I am not a fan of her policies, in general, but I liked this )
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The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
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Best thing from this wasmickeyrat said:
"so if that did happen, the media is saying that donating a bunch of money to a museum is a bad thing. That's an interesting take."
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I disagree w taxing them until we are all on the same playing field. You need diversity. Remove that and then creativity dies, corruption blossoms.GlowGirl said:The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
I don't see what is wrong with a 2% increase across the board on the rich though. It's just enough to kick the bees nest and not get stung too bad.0 -
400 families saw $1.4 trillion in wealth gain since 2019. I think they can swing it without missing a beat.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Teh problem you have his how those families live now. Because they have such massive assets, what they do is borrow against the assets and only draw down what is needed to pay the note on the loan. They live on the loan. It's very clever and prevents them from paying untold amounts of capital gains taxes. They only have to pay it on what they use to repay the loans.Halifax2TheMax said:400 families saw $1.4 trillion in wealth gain since 2019. I think they can swing it without missing a beat.0 -
My question about this, if this is the case (and it is) and if there are super wealthy people (and there are)….why the $400,000 level for taxes? Why is that the number used? Plenty of hard working real Americans in that boat.Halifax2TheMax said:400 families saw $1.4 trillion in wealth gain since 2019. I think they can swing it without missing a beat.And I guess I don’t recall, is the $400,000 individual or total family income?hippiemom = goodness0 -
Yes. Do it in small increments or percentages.Halifax2TheMax said:400 families saw $1.4 trillion in wealth gain since 2019. I think they can swing it without missing a beat.0 -
Bit confused with your use of diversity here. Do you mean a wide range of socioeconomic status? Not sure how that promotes creativity and limits corruption. Quite the opposite, really. Wealth inequality is growing and the racial wealth divide is anything but diverse.tempo_n_groove said:
I disagree w taxing them until we are all on the same playing field. You need diversity. Remove that and then creativity dies, corruption blossoms.GlowGirl said:The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
I don't see what is wrong with a 2% increase across the board on the rich though. It's just enough to kick the bees nest and not get stung too bad.0 -
If you tax a person until they aren't rich anymore does no good for anyone. That is pretty much communism. You need economic diversity, yes.Hobbes said:
Bit confused with your use of diversity here. Do you mean a wide range of socioeconomic status? Not sure how that promotes creativity and limits corruption. Quite the opposite, really. Wealth inequality is growing and the racial wealth divide is anything but diverse.tempo_n_groove said:
I disagree w taxing them until we are all on the same playing field. You need diversity. Remove that and then creativity dies, corruption blossoms.GlowGirl said:The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
I don't see what is wrong with a 2% increase across the board on the rich though. It's just enough to kick the bees nest and not get stung too bad.
The racial wealth is bad, we all know this. Taking from someone else until they don't have it anymore won't go over well.0 -
There is not one person declaring that we "should take from someone else until they don't have it anymore." At least that I know of. Maybe link to them or their statement(s), policy, etc.tempo_n_groove said:
If you tax a person until they aren't rich anymore does no good for anyone. That is pretty much communism. You need economic diversity, yes.Hobbes said:
Bit confused with your use of diversity here. Do you mean a wide range of socioeconomic status? Not sure how that promotes creativity and limits corruption. Quite the opposite, really. Wealth inequality is growing and the racial wealth divide is anything but diverse.tempo_n_groove said:
I disagree w taxing them until we are all on the same playing field. You need diversity. Remove that and then creativity dies, corruption blossoms.GlowGirl said:The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
I don't see what is wrong with a 2% increase across the board on the rich though. It's just enough to kick the bees nest and not get stung too bad.
The racial wealth is bad, we all know this. Taking from someone else until they don't have it anymore won't go over well.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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That "loophole" needs to be closed or at the least limited. Or taxed.mrussel1 said:
Teh problem you have his how those families live now. Because they have such massive assets, what they do is borrow against the assets and only draw down what is needed to pay the note on the loan. They live on the loan. It's very clever and prevents them from paying untold amounts of capital gains taxes. They only have to pay it on what they use to repay the loans.Halifax2TheMax said:400 families saw $1.4 trillion in wealth gain since 2019. I think they can swing it without missing a beat.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
There is not one person declaring that we "should take from someone else until they don't have it anymore." At least that I know of. Maybe link to them or their statement(s), policy, etc.tempo_n_groove said:
If you tax a person until they aren't rich anymore does no good for anyone. That is pretty much communism. You need economic diversity, yes.Hobbes said:
Bit confused with your use of diversity here. Do you mean a wide range of socioeconomic status? Not sure how that promotes creativity and limits corruption. Quite the opposite, really. Wealth inequality is growing and the racial wealth divide is anything but diverse.tempo_n_groove said:
I disagree w taxing them until we are all on the same playing field. You need diversity. Remove that and then creativity dies, corruption blossoms.GlowGirl said:The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
I don't see what is wrong with a 2% increase across the board on the rich though. It's just enough to kick the bees nest and not get stung too bad.
The racial wealth is bad, we all know this. Taking from someone else until they don't have it anymore won't go over well.GlowGirl said:The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
This was what I have been referring to and quoted that I disagreed with.0 -
well I think she was just saying it made her think of a song. she wasn't advocating for that as policy. at least that's not how I took it.tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
There is not one person declaring that we "should take from someone else until they don't have it anymore." At least that I know of. Maybe link to them or their statement(s), policy, etc.tempo_n_groove said:
If you tax a person until they aren't rich anymore does no good for anyone. That is pretty much communism. You need economic diversity, yes.Hobbes said:
Bit confused with your use of diversity here. Do you mean a wide range of socioeconomic status? Not sure how that promotes creativity and limits corruption. Quite the opposite, really. Wealth inequality is growing and the racial wealth divide is anything but diverse.tempo_n_groove said:
I disagree w taxing them until we are all on the same playing field. You need diversity. Remove that and then creativity dies, corruption blossoms.GlowGirl said:The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
I don't see what is wrong with a 2% increase across the board on the rich though. It's just enough to kick the bees nest and not get stung too bad.
The racial wealth is bad, we all know this. Taking from someone else until they don't have it anymore won't go over well.GlowGirl said:The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
This was what I have been referring to and quoted that I disagreed with.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Yep. Just pointing out that I don't agree with it and letting Fax know where it all derived from.HughFreakingDillon said:
well I think she was just saying it made her think of a song. she wasn't advocating for that as policy. at least that's not how I took it.tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
There is not one person declaring that we "should take from someone else until they don't have it anymore." At least that I know of. Maybe link to them or their statement(s), policy, etc.tempo_n_groove said:
If you tax a person until they aren't rich anymore does no good for anyone. That is pretty much communism. You need economic diversity, yes.Hobbes said:
Bit confused with your use of diversity here. Do you mean a wide range of socioeconomic status? Not sure how that promotes creativity and limits corruption. Quite the opposite, really. Wealth inequality is growing and the racial wealth divide is anything but diverse.tempo_n_groove said:
I disagree w taxing them until we are all on the same playing field. You need diversity. Remove that and then creativity dies, corruption blossoms.GlowGirl said:The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
I don't see what is wrong with a 2% increase across the board on the rich though. It's just enough to kick the bees nest and not get stung too bad.
The racial wealth is bad, we all know this. Taking from someone else until they don't have it anymore won't go over well.GlowGirl said:The first thing I thought of when I saw her dress was "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years after - "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no rich no more".
This was what I have been referring to and quoted that I disagreed with.0 -
Taxing until they are not rich anymore is laughable. Come on Tempo!www.myspace.com0
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