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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 28,450
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 22,678
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 28,450
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 22,678
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 28,450
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 22,678
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 22,678

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,734
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
    JHC. Ridiculous.  How much good could we have done for our people and around the world.  
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 28,450
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
    275Mil a day?  Is that number right?

    Googles it...

    Answer: Estimated 2 trillion spent over 20 years.  I did straight 2 tril and am just shy of the 275mil a day...

    Sub answer: Brown university did a study on this and they think we spent, get this, a staggering 5.8tril.  That would bump the daily to 794mil a day.

    What is our defense budget at?

    Googles it...

    Answer: 725Billion a year  So every 7 years we have spent our TOTAL defense budget on Afghanistan alone.  If I did the number crunching right.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 22,678
    edited September 3
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
    275Mil a day?  Is that number right?

    Googles it...

    Answer: Estimated 2 trillion spent over 20 years.  I did straight 2 tril and am just shy of the 275mil a day...

    Sub answer: Brown university did a study on this and they think we spent, get this, a staggering 5.8tril.  That would bump the daily to 794mil a day.

    What is our defense budget at?

    Googles it...

    Answer: 725Billion a year  So every 7 years we have spent our TOTAL defense budget on Afghanistan alone.  If I did the number crunching right.

    do the math on 19yr 10mo 3wk 2 days.

    by my count thats 7268 days 

    the kick in balls is that was borrowed money...
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,734
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
    275Mil a day?  Is that number right?

    Googles it...

    Answer: Estimated 2 trillion spent over 20 years.  I did straight 2 tril and am just shy of the 275mil a day...

    Sub answer: Brown university did a study on this and they think we spent, get this, a staggering 5.8tril.  That would bump the daily to 794mil a day.

    What is our defense budget at?

    Googles it...

    Answer: 725Billion a year  So every 7 years we have spent our TOTAL defense budget on Afghanistan alone.  If I did the number crunching right.
    Colossal waste of money.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 28,450
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
    275Mil a day?  Is that number right?

    Googles it...

    Answer: Estimated 2 trillion spent over 20 years.  I did straight 2 tril and am just shy of the 275mil a day...

    Sub answer: Brown university did a study on this and they think we spent, get this, a staggering 5.8tril.  That would bump the daily to 794mil a day.

    What is our defense budget at?

    Googles it...

    Answer: 725Billion a year  So every 7 years we have spent our TOTAL defense budget on Afghanistan alone.  If I did the number crunching right.

    do the math on 19yr 10mo 3wk 2 days.

    by my count thats 7268 days 

    the kick in balls is that was borrowed money...
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
    275Mil a day?  Is that number right?

    Googles it...

    Answer: Estimated 2 trillion spent over 20 years.  I did straight 2 tril and am just shy of the 275mil a day...

    Sub answer: Brown university did a study on this and they think we spent, get this, a staggering 5.8tril.  That would bump the daily to 794mil a day.

    What is our defense budget at?

    Googles it...

    Answer: 725Billion a year  So every 7 years we have spent our TOTAL defense budget on Afghanistan alone.  If I did the number crunching right.
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 8,445
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
    275Mil a day?  Is that number right?

    Googles it...

    Answer: Estimated 2 trillion spent over 20 years.  I did straight 2 tril and am just shy of the 275mil a day...

    Sub answer: Brown university did a study on this and they think we spent, get this, a staggering 5.8tril.  That would bump the daily to 794mil a day.

    What is our defense budget at?

    Googles it...

    Answer: 725Billion a year  So every 7 years we have spent our TOTAL defense budget on Afghanistan alone.  If I did the number crunching right.

    do the math on 19yr 10mo 3wk 2 days.

    by my count thats 7268 days 

    the kick in balls is that was borrowed money...
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
    275Mil a day?  Is that number right?

    Googles it...

    Answer: Estimated 2 trillion spent over 20 years.  I did straight 2 tril and am just shy of the 275mil a day...

    Sub answer: Brown university did a study on this and they think we spent, get this, a staggering 5.8tril.  That would bump the daily to 794mil a day.

    What is our defense budget at?

    Googles it...

    Answer: 725Billion a year  So every 7 years we have spent our TOTAL defense budget on Afghanistan alone.  If I did the number crunching right.
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,734
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
    275Mil a day?  Is that number right?

    Googles it...

    Answer: Estimated 2 trillion spent over 20 years.  I did straight 2 tril and am just shy of the 275mil a day...

    Sub answer: Brown university did a study on this and they think we spent, get this, a staggering 5.8tril.  That would bump the daily to 794mil a day.

    What is our defense budget at?

    Googles it...

    Answer: 725Billion a year  So every 7 years we have spent our TOTAL defense budget on Afghanistan alone.  If I did the number crunching right.

    do the math on 19yr 10mo 3wk 2 days.

    by my count thats 7268 days 

    the kick in balls is that was borrowed money...
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    let china and russia feed them.
    Wasn't that the point though?  To stop their presence from spreading there?

    no. the point was to kill bin laden , waste a shit ton of money and end up right where we started.
    Interesting that we overstayed that since he was killed in 2009.

    2011.

    dont forget the waste a bunch of money part. that takes a while.
    Since 2001!

    $275,178,866.26 per day in Afghanistan from Oct 7 2001 to Aug 31 2021
    275Mil a day?  Is that number right?

    Googles it...

    Answer: Estimated 2 trillion spent over 20 years.  I did straight 2 tril and am just shy of the 275mil a day...

    Sub answer: Brown university did a study on this and they think we spent, get this, a staggering 5.8tril.  That would bump the daily to 794mil a day.

    What is our defense budget at?

    Googles it...

    Answer: 725Billion a year  So every 7 years we have spent our TOTAL defense budget on Afghanistan alone.  If I did the number crunching right.
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 28,450
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,102
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
    The issue wasn't so much an open checkbook as it was funds coming from budgeted sources that have little or no oversight for security purposes.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 28,450
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
    The issue wasn't so much an open checkbook as it was funds coming from budgeted sources that have little or no oversight for security purposes.
    Open check book was most certainly part of it.  I give you the Osprey as example #1.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,102
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
    The issue wasn't so much an open checkbook as it was funds coming from budgeted sources that have little or no oversight for security purposes.
    Open check book was most certainly part of it.  I give you the Osprey as example #1.
    I didn't  say it wasn't part of it. Maybe what I should have said was it was too many different checkbooks with little or no oversight 

    The Osprey was a project I worked on. I can say for sure the checkbook was wide open on that one. But all defense projects/contracts from the newest plane to the smallest toilet paper order have a budget. And too few ever stay close to the original $.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 28,450
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
    The issue wasn't so much an open checkbook as it was funds coming from budgeted sources that have little or no oversight for security purposes.
    Open check book was most certainly part of it.  I give you the Osprey as example #1.
    I didn't  say it wasn't part of it. Maybe what I should have said was it was too many different checkbooks with little or no oversight 

    The Osprey was a project I worked on. I can say for sure the checkbook was wide open on that one. But all defense projects/contracts from the newest plane to the smallest toilet paper order have a budget. And too few ever stay close to the original $.
    You worked on that one huh?  
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 9,338
    Glad to see the Taliban has changed their ways with that all-male government...LMFAO.

    I can only imagine it sucks to be female in North America at times... there is no description of what it's like to be female over there.  Instead of training those cowardly male soldiers, they should have trained the woman at an elite level...if anyone would have an incentive to fight the Taliban it would be females in that country...my guess is if they were well trained with support maybe they eliminate the Taliban...
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,102
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
    The issue wasn't so much an open checkbook as it was funds coming from budgeted sources that have little or no oversight for security purposes.
    Open check book was most certainly part of it.  I give you the Osprey as example #1.
    I didn't  say it wasn't part of it. Maybe what I should have said was it was too many different checkbooks with little or no oversight 

    The Osprey was a project I worked on. I can say for sure the checkbook was wide open on that one. But all defense projects/contracts from the newest plane to the smallest toilet paper order have a budget. And too few ever stay close to the original $.
    You worked on that one huh?  
    Back when I had an "adult" job I worked on the periphery of that project. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 19,046
    lindsay graham said that we need to go back in to afghanistan. good luck selling that one to everybody.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,769
    Glad to see the Taliban has changed their ways with that all-male government...LMFAO.

    I can only imagine it sucks to be female in North America at times... there is no description of what it's like to be female over there.  Instead of training those cowardly male soldiers, they should have trained the woman at an elite level...if anyone would have an incentive to fight the Taliban it would be females in that country...my guess is if they were well trained with support maybe they eliminate the Taliban...
    LOL.....
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 28,073
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
    The issue wasn't so much an open checkbook as it was funds coming from budgeted sources that have little or no oversight for security purposes.
    Open check book was most certainly part of it.  I give you the Osprey as example #1.
    I didn't  say it wasn't part of it. Maybe what I should have said was it was too many different checkbooks with little or no oversight 

    The Osprey was a project I worked on. I can say for sure the checkbook was wide open on that one. But all defense projects/contracts from the newest plane to the smallest toilet paper order have a budget. And too few ever stay close to the original $.
    You worked on that one huh?  
    Back when I had an "adult" job I worked on the periphery of that project. 
    you have a child's job now?
    (Track 10 of The Headstones' Nickels For Your Nightmares)


  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 28,450
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
    The issue wasn't so much an open checkbook as it was funds coming from budgeted sources that have little or no oversight for security purposes.
    Open check book was most certainly part of it.  I give you the Osprey as example #1.
    I didn't  say it wasn't part of it. Maybe what I should have said was it was too many different checkbooks with little or no oversight 

    The Osprey was a project I worked on. I can say for sure the checkbook was wide open on that one. But all defense projects/contracts from the newest plane to the smallest toilet paper order have a budget. And too few ever stay close to the original $.
    You worked on that one huh?  
    Back when I had an "adult" job I worked on the periphery of that project. 
    you have a child's job now?
    He has a dream job now.  I want to throw eggs at him often actually and not out of jealousy but because it's not an adult job.  =)
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 28,073
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
    The issue wasn't so much an open checkbook as it was funds coming from budgeted sources that have little or no oversight for security purposes.
    Open check book was most certainly part of it.  I give you the Osprey as example #1.
    I didn't  say it wasn't part of it. Maybe what I should have said was it was too many different checkbooks with little or no oversight 

    The Osprey was a project I worked on. I can say for sure the checkbook was wide open on that one. But all defense projects/contracts from the newest plane to the smallest toilet paper order have a budget. And too few ever stay close to the original $.
    You worked on that one huh?  
    Back when I had an "adult" job I worked on the periphery of that project. 
    you have a child's job now?
    He has a dream job now.  I want to throw eggs at him often actually and not out of jealousy but because it's not an adult job.  =)
    slingin' drinks on a beach? testing out toys? come on, spill it
    (Track 10 of The Headstones' Nickels For Your Nightmares)


  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,102
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
    The issue wasn't so much an open checkbook as it was funds coming from budgeted sources that have little or no oversight for security purposes.
    Open check book was most certainly part of it.  I give you the Osprey as example #1.
    I didn't  say it wasn't part of it. Maybe what I should have said was it was too many different checkbooks with little or no oversight 

    The Osprey was a project I worked on. I can say for sure the checkbook was wide open on that one. But all defense projects/contracts from the newest plane to the smallest toilet paper order have a budget. And too few ever stay close to the original $.
    You worked on that one huh?  
    Back when I had an "adult" job I worked on the periphery of that project. 
    you have a child's job now?
    He has a dream job now.  I want to throw eggs at him often actually and not out of jealousy but because it's not an adult job.  =)
    slingin' drinks on a beach? testing out toys? come on, spill it
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  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,486
    benjs said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    As a neighbour to the north, that's what makes me shake my head in astonishment too. All the harm done for 275 mil daily - If just four days of Afghanistan war spending were sent to any other cause, that cause would have a billion dollars to fund positive initiatives.  Any Republican arguments about the dangers of spending too much money are the epitome of hypocrisy at this point. 
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Colossal waste of money.
    The money was borrowed that we couldn't pay our yearly budget allowance and in turn we have to pay for interest too?  Brilliant.

    I forget how much wars cost and when you put the numbers into graphs and things you see how much money does get spent and some complain about universal healthcare?
    Or roads, or less expensive post secondary education, or a million other things that would improve the lives of every day Americans.  Never underestimate the power of the military industrial complex.  And sure as shit, as the we are leaving Afghanistan, John Bolton starts writing op eds how we need to get involved in Pakistan. 
    I do consider this.  Bases, armaments makers, tech.  All keep Americans working.  I'm not sure how much for profit it is either.  The open checkbook thing, I thought was eliminated?
    The issue wasn't so much an open checkbook as it was funds coming from budgeted sources that have little or no oversight for security purposes.
    Open check book was most certainly part of it.  I give you the Osprey as example #1.
    I didn't  say it wasn't part of it. Maybe what I should have said was it was too many different checkbooks with little or no oversight 

    The Osprey was a project I worked on. I can say for sure the checkbook was wide open on that one. But all defense projects/contracts from the newest plane to the smallest toilet paper order have a budget. And too few ever stay close to the original $.
    You worked on that one huh?  
    Back when I had an "adult" job I worked on the periphery of that project. 
    you have a child's job now?
    He has a dream job now.  I want to throw eggs at him often actually and not out of jealousy but because it's not an adult job.  =)
    slingin' drinks on a beach? testing out toys? come on, spill it

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