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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    edited July 2021
    JB16057 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Megan Kelly apparently thinks the media overacted to the Jan 6 tourist visits.


    You mean the same media that was comparing January 6 to September 11 & December 7?
    Should I believe her or my lying eyes?
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Megan Kelly apparently thinks the media overacted to the Jan 6 tourist visits.


    You mean the same media that was comparing January 6 to September 11 & December 7?
    Should I believe her or my lying eyes?

    I don't blame you for mocking or not believing Megyn Kelly but a broken clock is right twice a day.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Megan Kelly apparently thinks the media overacted to the Jan 6 tourist visits.


    You mean the same media that was comparing January 6 to September 11 & December 7?
    Should I believe her or my lying eyes?

    I don't blame you for mocking or not believing Megyn Kelly but a broken clock is right twice a day.
    It’s not a matter of belief. I watched it myself.  I don’t need anyone to tell me or interpret the violence I watched that day.  Do you?  Did Fox change your mind, or the whole afternoon were you thinking this is all good, just some tourists?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,747
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Megan Kelly apparently thinks the media overacted to the Jan 6 tourist visits.


    You mean the same media that was comparing January 6 to September 11 & December 7?
    Should I believe her or my lying eyes?

    I don't blame you for mocking or not believing Megyn Kelly but a broken clock is right twice a day.
    It’s not a matter of belief. I watched it myself.  I don’t need anyone to tell me or interpret the violence I watched that day.  Do you?  Did Fox change your mind, or the whole afternoon were you thinking this is all good, just some tourists?

    an alternative is this poater believes they were right in engaging in insurrection
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Megan Kelly apparently thinks the media overacted to the Jan 6 tourist visits.


    You mean the same media that was comparing January 6 to September 11 & December 7?
    Should I believe her or my lying eyes?

    I don't blame you for mocking or not believing Megyn Kelly but a broken clock is right twice a day.
    It’s not a matter of belief. I watched it myself.  I don’t need anyone to tell me or interpret the violence I watched that day.  Do you?  Did Fox change your mind, or the whole afternoon were you thinking this is all good, just some tourists?
    When I hear that Megyn Kelly thought it was overblown by the media, I think of the comparisons that the media made to September 11 and December 7 which aren't even close to January 6.
     
    I didn't think it was just some tourists nor do I believe it to be an insurrection. Had those people wanted an insurrection, they would've all brought their weapons and an actual insurrection would've been attempted.
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Megan Kelly apparently thinks the media overacted to the Jan 6 tourist visits.


    You mean the same media that was comparing January 6 to September 11 & December 7?
    Should I believe her or my lying eyes?

    I don't blame you for mocking or not believing Megyn Kelly but a broken clock is right twice a day.
    It’s not a matter of belief. I watched it myself.  I don’t need anyone to tell me or interpret the violence I watched that day.  Do you?  Did Fox change your mind, or the whole afternoon were you thinking this is all good, just some tourists?

    an alternative is this poater believes they were right in engaging in insurrection

    I don't believe the people on January 6 were in the right just like I don't believe that the BLM riots should've been able to cause millions of dollars worth of damage all last year.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Megan Kelly apparently thinks the media overacted to the Jan 6 tourist visits.


    You mean the same media that was comparing January 6 to September 11 & December 7?
    Should I believe her or my lying eyes?

    I don't blame you for mocking or not believing Megyn Kelly but a broken clock is right twice a day.
    It’s not a matter of belief. I watched it myself.  I don’t need anyone to tell me or interpret the violence I watched that day.  Do you?  Did Fox change your mind, or the whole afternoon were you thinking this is all good, just some tourists?
    When I hear that Megyn Kelly thought it was overblown by the media, I think of the comparisons that the media made to September 11 and December 7 which aren't even close to January 6.
     
    I didn't think it was just some tourists nor do I believe it to be an insurrection. Had those people wanted an insurrection, they would've all brought their weapons and an actual insurrection would've been attempted.
    It was sedition by the very definition of the statute. Second,  who precisely compared it and what was the comparison? Post a clip or something so we can evaluate the context.  Calling out the "media" is too broad and generic, rendering it meaningless. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,871
    Comparing this to BLM protests is the ultimate act of White Privilege.

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,747
    the symbolism of the INSURRECTION compares to that of Dec 7 and Sept 11. Both have been framed as an attack on democracy.
    .As was Jan 6
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    edited July 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    the symbolism of the INSURRECTION compares to that of Dec 7 and Sept 11. Both have been framed as an attack on democracy.
    .As was Jan 6
    I actually think jan 6 was worse than the other two based on what could have immediately happened if the insurrection would have succeeded.  
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    mickeyrat said:
    the symbolism of the INSURRECTION compares to that of Dec 7 and Sept 11. Both have been framed as an attack on democracy.
    .As was Jan 6
    I will disagree whole heartedly that these 3 dates have anything in common.  The reason being that the day after two of these events we galvanized as a country where in Dec 6th it just drove us further apart.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,747
    edited July 2021
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    the symbolism of the INSURRECTION compares to that of Dec 7 and Sept 11. Both have been framed as an attack on democracy.
    .As was Jan 6
    I will disagree whole heartedly that these 3 dates have anything in common.  The reason being that the day after two of these events we galvanized as a country where in Dec 6th it just drove us further apart.
    first, the comparison isnt about the aftermath. its about the acts on those days and what they are.


    and to your point it'sbecause of the enemy within. trump, his propaganda channels and a political party abdicating their oath.

    and it continues 6 months later. all good though. 1st hearing in 12 days.....
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited July 2021

    Americans attacking America is far worse IMO than foreign combatants / terrorists attacking America.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    the symbolism of the INSURRECTION compares to that of Dec 7 and Sept 11. Both have been framed as an attack on democracy.
    .As was Jan 6
    I will disagree whole heartedly that these 3 dates have anything in common.  The reason being that the day after two of these events we galvanized as a country where in Dec 6th it just drove us further apart.
    first, the comparison isnt about the aftermath. its about the acts on those days and what they are.


    and to your point it'sbecause of the enemy within. trump, his propaganda channels and a political party abdicating their oath.

    and it continues 6 months later. all good though. 1st hearing in 12 days.....
    Just because I don't think it is the same don't dismiss my point. 

    It's very true that we came together as a nation for 9/11 and Dec 7th where all that happened for Dec 6th is more bickering.  

    I still hope that they arrest everyone involved and am onboard w the private investigation.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    Merkin Baller said:

    Americans attacking America is far worse IMO than foreign combatants / terrorists attacking America.
    Agree 100%.  This way of thinking isn't going away anytime soon.  When elections come around again I would expect a rallying of the troops to become bigger.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,747
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    the symbolism of the INSURRECTION compares to that of Dec 7 and Sept 11. Both have been framed as an attack on democracy.
    .As was Jan 6
    I will disagree whole heartedly that these 3 dates have anything in common.  The reason being that the day after two of these events we galvanized as a country where in Dec 6th it just drove us further apart.
    first, the comparison isnt about the aftermath. its about the acts on those days and what they are.


    and to your point it'sbecause of the enemy within. trump, his propaganda channels and a political party abdicating their oath.

    and it continues 6 months later. all good though. 1st hearing in 12 days.....
    Just because I don't think it is the same don't dismiss my point. 

    It's very true that we came together as a nation for 9/11 and Dec 7th where all that happened for Dec 6th is more bickering.  

    I still hope that they arrest everyone involved and am onboard w the private investigation.

    I didnt dismiss it. I dont believe the initial media comparison was intended to include what came after. And your point seems to be to do so.

    the attack on the constitutional procedure for the peaceful transition of power is absolutely on par with  Dec 7 and Sept 11. I'd include the firing on Ft Sumpter to kick off the civil war in this too.

    All were an attack on our constitutional order. period.

    the fact that Dec 7 and Sept 11 saw the country come together isnt relevant to the commonality of the four events.

    theres a reason the oaths of office (to include the military oaths) contain the phrase"  ... all enemies foreign and domestic."
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    the symbolism of the INSURRECTION compares to that of Dec 7 and Sept 11. Both have been framed as an attack on democracy.
    .As was Jan 6
    I will disagree whole heartedly that these 3 dates have anything in common.  The reason being that the day after two of these events we galvanized as a country where in Dec 6th it just drove us further apart.
    first, the comparison isnt about the aftermath. its about the acts on those days and what they are.


    and to your point it'sbecause of the enemy within. trump, his propaganda channels and a political party abdicating their oath.

    and it continues 6 months later. all good though. 1st hearing in 12 days.....
    Just because I don't think it is the same don't dismiss my point. 

    It's very true that we came together as a nation for 9/11 and Dec 7th where all that happened for Dec 6th is more bickering.  

    I still hope that they arrest everyone involved and am onboard w the private investigation.

    I didnt dismiss it. I dont believe the initial media comparison was intended to include what came after. And your point seems to be to do so.

    the attack on the constitutional procedure for the peaceful transition of power is absolutely on par with  Dec 7 and Sept 11. I'd include the firing on Ft Sumpter to kick off the civil war in this too.

    All were an attack on our constitutional order. period.

    the fact that Dec 7 and Sept 11 saw the country come together isnt relevant to the commonality of the four events.

    theres a reason the oaths of office (to include the military oaths) contain the phrase"  ... all enemies foreign and domestic."
    It was my view of the aftermath of the 3 dates, I made that comparison just to bring about a point which i do think is relevant to the topic.

    When we have domestic enemies it doesn't seem to have the same response as when a foreign entity does something to our democracy/country.  

    I agree with what you are saying though.
  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,033
    Jan 6th. Not Dec 6th @tempo_n_groove
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    RunIntoTheRain said:
    Jan 6th. Not Dec 6th @tempo_n_groove
    That's all you got out of that?  Great.

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