America's Gun Violence

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Yee haw Tejas! More guns are the answer. “Most of the victims were bystanders.”


    https://apple.news/AxJBUlzwYRCusi4aw-pc2qQ
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    Yee haw Tejas! More guns are the answer. “Most of the victims were bystanders.”


    https://apple.news/AxJBUlzwYRCusi4aw-pc2qQ
    Clearly the shooter was a poser because no one got killed
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    More “responsible” gun owners. Will they be held to account or “responsible?”
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    nicknyr15 said:
    Do you gun owners in the us still have cool phrases like “guns, god and family.” If not you need a cool phrase.  The god part I understand…keep playing with guns and you may get to meet god sooner or later…I mean if you believe in god.  Really, other than hunting why do these fuckers need guns…something in your personality has to be fucked up…really fucked up.  There are plenty of good, quality safe hobbies to choose from…
    I guess I'm "fucked up".  Thanks.
    I do not care if you are offended…or if any gun owner is offended.   You don’t need guns other than for hunting…
    Hahaha ok. Read any headlines in NYC lately? Having a gun to protect your house is almost 100 percent necessary here lately. Where are you from? Canada right? Cool. I guess I should just let Police and CRIMINALS be the only ones allowed to have firearms. I’m all for way stricter gun laws. I thinks it is INSANE how easy it is to get a gun in some states. 
    100% necessary? Have you had to defend your home against intruders with your firearm?
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  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    Even if we had a gun, there are laws in place that hold the homeowner responsible for shooting an intruder (with varying circumstances).
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,638
    nicknyr15 said:
    Do you gun owners in the us still have cool phrases like “guns, god and family.” If not you need a cool phrase.  The god part I understand…keep playing with guns and you may get to meet god sooner or later…I mean if you believe in god.  Really, other than hunting why do these fuckers need guns…something in your personality has to be fucked up…really fucked up.  There are plenty of good, quality safe hobbies to choose from…
    I guess I'm "fucked up".  Thanks.
    I do not care if you are offended…or if any gun owner is offended.   You don’t need guns other than for hunting…
    Hahaha ok. Read any headlines in NYC lately? Having a gun to protect your house is almost 100 percent necessary here lately. Where are you from? Canada right? Cool. I guess I should just let Police and CRIMINALS be the only ones allowed to have firearms. I’m all for way stricter gun laws. I thinks it is INSANE how easy it is to get a gun in some states. 
    100% necessary? Have you had to defend your home against intruders with your firearm?
    No. I haven’t. And I never want to. Not sure what that proves though. 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Do you gun owners in the us still have cool phrases like “guns, god and family.” If not you need a cool phrase.  The god part I understand…keep playing with guns and you may get to meet god sooner or later…I mean if you believe in god.  Really, other than hunting why do these fuckers need guns…something in your personality has to be fucked up…really fucked up.  There are plenty of good, quality safe hobbies to choose from…
    I guess I'm "fucked up".  Thanks.
    I do not care if you are offended…or if any gun owner is offended.   You don’t need guns other than for hunting…
    Hahaha ok. Read any headlines in NYC lately? Having a gun to protect your house is almost 100 percent necessary here lately. Where are you from? Canada right? Cool. I guess I should just let Police and CRIMINALS be the only ones allowed to have firearms. I’m all for way stricter gun laws. I thinks it is INSANE how easy it is to get a gun in some states. 
    100% necessary? Have you had to defend your home against intruders with your firearm?
    No. I haven’t. And I never want to. Not sure what that proves though. 
    Just asking since you thought it was almost 100% necessary. Seems like you are part of the “almost” group then.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    More guns, more guns and more guns is clearly, undeniably the answer.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/05/us/us-shootings-july-fourth-weekend/index.html
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    More guns, more guns and more guns is clearly, undeniably the answer.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/05/us/us-shootings-july-fourth-weekend/index.html
    It’s clearly working. 
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    edited July 2021
    No better way to celebrate America and being  an American than by shooting someone....

    At least 140 people died in shootings across the US over Fourth of July weekend https://news.yahoo.com/least-140-people-died-shootings-205639684.html
     The return of mass shootings in America was felt over the Fourth of July weekend, as cities from Chicago to Fort Worth were gripped by gun violence.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    edited July 2021
    Over a holiday weekend in ‘Murica no less. Freedumb isn’t free. It’s only 233.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/05/us/us-shootings-july-fourth-weekend/index.html
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,638
    After over a year of excuses and , “we’ll turn the corner soon”, it’s nice to see Cuomo finally recognize how bad NY is getting when it comes to gun violence. Regardless of AOC calling it “hysteria”, the numbers don’t lie. 

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    More guns are the answer, not only in Tejas but everywhere. Or armoring up your ride? 'Murica.

    Texas teenager, 17, is killed in another road rage murder (msn.com)
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Couple more "responsible" gun owners. What do you think they get? 6 months probation? $1,000 dollar fine? Ah, they suffered enough, dismiss the charges?

    4-year-old finds loaded gun in car, fatally shoots himself outside Colorado pot shop; parents charged (msn.com)

    In the story there's a link to another about having to wrestling a loaded AK47 from a ten year old. 'Murica and its freedumbs.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    Couple more "responsible" gun owners. What do you think they get? 6 months probation? $1,000 dollar fine? Ah, they suffered enough, dismiss the charges?

    4-year-old finds loaded gun in car, fatally shoots himself outside Colorado pot shop; parents charged (msn.com)

    In the story there's a link to another about having to wrestling a loaded AK47 from a ten year old. 'Murica and its freedumbs.
    Guns don't kill people



    The children of gun owners kill themselves and others
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    “Responsible” gun owners doing what responsible gun owners do.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2021/07/11/coors-field-all-star-game-guns-ammunition-arrests/

    On the heels of the guy in Chicago being arrested with guns in a high floor hotel room overlooking a place where crowds gather. More guns. We need more guns.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Seems really "responsible" to me. There's a god reference, can sex trafficking be far behind? Oh yea, back the blue too. 'Murica and its freedumbs. Woot. And this guy is allowed to deal in firearms?

    ‘SUPER FUN’: A gun covered in Legos to look like a toy sets off a furor

    About a week ago, a company in Utah that makes custom modifications to firearms debuted what it described as a fun new product: a kit that encases Glock handguns in red, yellow and blue Lego blocks, refashioning lethal weapons to look exactly like children’s toys.

    “We have been building guns out of blocks for the last 30 years and wanted to flip the script to aggravate Mom,” Provo-based Culper Precision explained on its website. It went on to argue that personal defense is a right granted by God and that gun ownership is protected by the Constitution before getting to the most important reason the company was selling “BLOCK19,” as the design was named, for $549 to $765, depending on the specifics.

    “There is a satisfaction that can ONLY be found in the shooting sports and this is just one small way to break the rhetoric from Anti-Gun folks and draw attention to the fact that the shooting sports are SUPER FUN!” the site proclaimed, exuding a bravado that would prove to be short-lived. “Here’s the thing. Guns are fun. Shooting is fun. 30 rounds full auto is fun.”

    What’s not fun, and went unaddressed on the sales page, is the reality that thousands of children unintentionally shoot themselves or others each year because they find a gun and pull its trigger. Culper Precision’s customization arrived at a time when that problem is only getting worse and firearm sales are soaring. As word of the new product spread on the Internet late last week, the idea struck many people as so profoundly misguided that it would inevitably cost children their lives.

    When Kristin Song, whose 15-year-old son died in 2018 after accidentally shooting himself, first saw an image of the custom design, she assumed it was a joke, until realizing that it wasn’t.

    “How is this even legal?” wondered Song, who has fought to pass legislation that requires gun owners to lock up their weapons if a child might get access to them.

    When Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action, first saw the image, she thought it was “sick and that children would die.”

    Responsible gun owners should be appalled by this,” she said, and as it turns out, some of them were.

    In the comments section of a gun blog that featured an interview with the company’s president, an argument broke out.

    “This, if real, is the most irresponsible gun modification I have seen in a long time. Perfect fodder for the ‘Everytown for Gun Safety’ people. Not a help,” one user wrote on Thursday.

    “Bottom line is that it’s clearly a bad idea to make a deadly weapon look like a child’s toy. I don’t mean to be judgemental, but I honestly struggle to understand how/why anyone could find this amusing in the slightest,” wrote another.

    “Nothing says you are stupid [more] than making your real gun look like a toy,” wrote a third. “This is the dumbest idea I have ever seen.”

    Dumb, yes, but legal in at least most of the country, said David Pucino, a lawyer at the Giffords Law Center. Although federal law prohibits toys from being manufactured to look like guns, no such law prohibits guns from being made to look like toys. Pucino noted that New York state bans people from disguising firearms as something else, which could make the Lego-crusted Glock illegal there, but he doubted that many other states had passed similar regulations.

    In 2016, a Texas graphics shop coated handguns with a “Hello Kitty” image before the company that owns the trademark demanded that it stop (the shop, though, still adorns pistols with other designs, including the Confederate flag, according to its site).

    In March, police officers in North Carolina conducting a drug raid found that a Glock with a 50-round drum magazine had been altered to look like a Nerf gun.

    “Firearms of this type, while not illegal to possess, are concerning to law enforcement,” the Catawba County Sheriff’s Office wrote in a Facebook post.

    In Utah, Culper Precision’s president, Brandon Scott, was cordial but resolute in his responses to the minority of online commenters who didn’t think the BLOCK19 idea was, as the majority described it, “super cool” or “hilarious” or a “10/10 meme gun.”

    Scott maintains that the design was all about exposing people to the fun of shooting, an aspect of firearms that, he said, the media and gun control activists often overlook because they’re too narrowly focused on the tens of thousands of people who are killed by them.

    Instead, he was fulfilling a childhood fantasy for his adult customers, referencing in his conversation with the blog how the customization mimicked the “pretend guns” people made “out of the Legos you got from Santa.”

    Scott told The Washington Post that before announcing his idea, he’d considered that children might think the altered guns are toys, but it didn’t dissuade him. He and his three children play with Lego blocks, and in his home, he keeps all of his guns locked up, something that he expects every other gun owner to do as well — an expectation divorced from reality.

    As of 2015, as many as 4.6 million children lived in homes with at least one loaded, unlocked firearm, a number that has probably gone up during the country’s gun-buying spree over the past 16 months.

    If the child of one of his customers finds a Lego-modified gun and shoots himself with it, Scott said that would be the customer’s fault, not his.

    And what should happen to that customer?

    “So, um, let’s see. I know that in some places that there are laws in place for negligence like that,” Scott said. But he added that he does not believe an adult who allows a child access to a gun that looks like a toy — resulting in the child’s death — should be held criminally liable.

    The reason, Scott said, is because he doesn’t want the government regulating “common sense.”

    “You know, the pain and anguish caused by losing a child would be a pretty intense scenario,” he said, suggesting that would be punishment enough.

    And if it was a neighbor’s child who was shot to death instead?

    “The neighbor can obviously sue,” he said.

    Scott, who is also certified to teach concealed weapons permit courses in Utah, insisted that guns in America are unfairly maligned.

    “There’s a lot of sports in the United States that are, in my opinion, a lot more dangerous than firearms,” Scott said, “and frankly, you know, kill more people on a yearly basis.”

    When asked for an example, he pointed to motorcycling.

    “That would be a big one,” he said, even though guns killed at least eight times as many people in 2020 as the number that die in motorcycle crashes during an average year.

    Ultimately, Scott said he came up with the design in hopes that it would start a conversation about the joy of shooting, a hope that came to an abrupt end this week.

    Before finishing his interview with The Post on Monday, he said he’d gotten an email from Lego, which had been asked about his custom design from a reporter seeking comment on it. Although Scott had been careful not to mention Lego by name on his site, the company was displeased and sent him a cease-and-desist letter.

    A lawyer, he said, told him the toy giant might have a case against his company if he kept offering BLOCK19. Scott, who wouldn’t reveal exactly how many he’d already sold but said it was fewer than 20, decided to comply.

    Lego, he said, had been polite but direct in its demands.

    “They had a similar reaction to you,” he told a reporter, “where it was like: ‘Is it wise to make a gun look like a toy?’ ”

    A gun covered in Legos to look like a toy sets off a furor as shootings soar - The Washington Post

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    edited July 2021
    Well now what will the gun supporters think even the beloved American pastime is no longer sacred ground!
    Padres & Nationals game interrupted by gun fire outside of stadium..
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,638
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/01/nyc-shootings-18-people-shot-2-fatally-during-bloody-night/

    just another night in NYC. And I shouldn’t have a handgun at home to protect my family? Just in case? Yea. Sure. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,412
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    Banner weekend in Columbus too.

    one incident has been described as an "accidental" shooting death. 5 yr old girl shot herself.

    Really wish media would stop framing these as an accident. Its a fucking probability if kids have easy access to weapons. The parents should be charged wirh negilent homicide, child endangerment and whatever else is appropriate for have unsecured or ready access weapons around children.


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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,638
    mickeyrat said:
    Banner weekend in Columbus too.

    one incident has been described as an "accidental" shooting death. 5 yr old girl shot herself.

    Really wish media would stop framing these as an accident. Its a fucking probability if kids have easy access to weapons. The parents should be charged wirh negilent homicide, child endangerment and whatever else is appropriate for have unsecured or ready access weapons around children.


    100% agree. Fucking disgraceful. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/01/nyc-shootings-18-people-shot-2-fatally-during-bloody-night/

    just another night in NYC. And I shouldn’t have a handgun at home to protect my family? Just in case? Yea. Sure. 
    Bearing in mind the generally poor writing and limited details, I don’t see anything in that article that suggests having a “gun at home” would have been protective. None of the shootings were home robberies or home invasions. The biggest one was gang related, and if you’re unlucky enough to find yourself in the middle of that then shooting at the gang members isn’t going to help you much. One or possibly two were street robberies, so if the gunman already had his firearm out I doubt you’d be given time to draw yours. The others seemed to be interpersonal disagreements. 

    All in all, just further examples of how more guns make for more, not less, gun violence. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,638
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://nypost.com/2021/08/01/nyc-shootings-18-people-shot-2-fatally-during-bloody-night/

    just another night in NYC. And I shouldn’t have a handgun at home to protect my family? Just in case? Yea. Sure. 
    Bearing in mind the generally poor writing and limited details, I don’t see anything in that article that suggests having a “gun at home” would have been protective. None of the shootings were home robberies or home invasions. The biggest one was gang related, and if you’re unlucky enough to find yourself in the middle of that then shooting at the gang members isn’t going to help you much. One or possibly two were street robberies, so if the gunman already had his firearm out I doubt you’d be given time to draw yours. The others seemed to be interpersonal disagreements. 

    All in all, just further examples of how more guns make for more, not less, gun violence. 
    Cool. I respect your opinion and hope where you are incidents like this do not happen on a daily base. None of these incidents are with people who legally owned those guns as well. This is one article from one night. When criminals aren’t killing each other, things like home invasions happen as well. My citizens app lights up nightly with stories that you don’t see and stories that don’t make the news. So I respect your post but I am more familiar with the city than you are. 
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