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In NY they have been chipping away at the unions here for years. This isn't new news or the sky is falling.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ummm, sure.tempo_n_groove said:
Unions are next!Halifax2TheMax said:I really hope Wayne’s world implodes. Keep giving, you can fund his legal defense.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/11/politics/national-rifle-association-bankruptcy/index.html0 -
Well, let me know when a N.Y. union declares bankruptcy to avoid being dissolved because of the criminal behavior of its leadership in fraudulently spending its collected dues as a non-profit and having their bankruptcy petition thrown out for lack of merit. Then we can compare them. Start a “All Things NY Unions” thread in the meantime to keep us all posted.tempo_n_groove said:
In NY they have been chipping away at the unions here for years. This isn't new news or the sky is falling.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ummm, sure.tempo_n_groove said:
Unions are next!Halifax2TheMax said:I really hope Wayne’s world implodes. Keep giving, you can fund his legal defense.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/11/politics/national-rifle-association-bankruptcy/index.html09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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They can't, the government literally took them over. The local BA's got caught taking pension/dues money and doing blow off of hookers' bellies and got caught.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, let me know when a N.Y. union declares bankruptcy to avoid being dissolved because of the criminal behavior of its leadership in fraudulently spending its collected dues as a non-profit and having their bankruptcy petition thrown out for lack of merit. Then we can compare them. Start a “All Things NY Unions” thread in the meantime to keep us all posted.tempo_n_groove said:
In NY they have been chipping away at the unions here for years. This isn't new news or the sky is falling.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ummm, sure.tempo_n_groove said:
Unions are next!Halifax2TheMax said:I really hope Wayne’s world implodes. Keep giving, you can fund his legal defense.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/11/politics/national-rifle-association-bankruptcy/index.html
One whole section of Carpenters union was dissolved. Iron Workers union is under government eyes. Operators union under government eye. All for above mentioned practices and more.
So, you can compare them.0 -
different entities entirely.
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Of course but read the dialogue and why I said unions were next. If you read the last post it would make zero sense.mickeyrat said:different entities entirely.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:
Of course but read the dialogue and why I said unions were next. If you read the last post it would make zero sense.mickeyrat said:different entities entirely.
nothing prevents those affected members from joining a different local or reorganizing the disbanded local.
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Unions aren’t next. Unions have had anti-corruption initiatives against them since day one and throughout their history, mostly with repubs trying to dismantle them. The NRA? Not so much, so yea, they’re not comparable. Another false equivalency.tempo_n_groove said:
Of course but read the dialogue and why I said unions were next. If you read the last post it would make zero sense.mickeyrat said:different entities entirely.
How does it feel knowing your dues bought fine Italian suits for LePue? And flew he and his family to the Bahamas on private jets multiple times?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Actually it does. NY has different locals for specific things. If you are an operator doing buildings you are in 14. If you are an operator doing earthwork you are in 15. If you are an ornamental iron worker you are in 580. Electrical in the boroughs is Local 3, on the island it's local 25.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Of course but read the dialogue and why I said unions were next. If you read the last post it would make zero sense.mickeyrat said:different entities entirely.
nothing prevents those affected members from joining a different local or reorganizing the disbanded local.
There aren't other competing locals.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:
Actually it does. NY has different locals for specific things. If you are an operator doing buildings you are in 14. If you are an operator doing earthwork you are in 15. If you are an ornamental iron worker you are in 580. Electrical in the boroughs is Local 3, on the island it's local 25.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Of course but read the dialogue and why I said unions were next. If you read the last post it would make zero sense.mickeyrat said:different entities entirely.
nothing prevents those affected members from joining a different local or reorganizing the disbanded local.
There aren't other competing locals.
then the nationals need to do for their members and recharter the disbanded with national oversight to start off or reconfigure the existing type specific locals.
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The union dues bought blow and hookers. That was one comparison.Halifax2TheMax said:
Unions aren’t next. Unions have had anti-corruption initiatives against them since day one and throughout their history, mostly with repubs trying to dismantle them. The NRA? Not so much, so yea, they’re not comparable. Another false equivalency.tempo_n_groove said:
Of course but read the dialogue and why I said unions were next. If you read the last post it would make zero sense.mickeyrat said:different entities entirely.
How does it feel knowing your dues bought fine Italian suits for LePue? And flew he and his family to the Bahamas on private jets multiple times?
The second was NY brass has always been out to break unions whether it be about corruption or just the power they wield.
Living here you get a very different perspective of the local news and being in the industry.0 -
Getting off topic. We can discuss this in private if you feel the need to.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Actually it does. NY has different locals for specific things. If you are an operator doing buildings you are in 14. If you are an operator doing earthwork you are in 15. If you are an ornamental iron worker you are in 580. Electrical in the boroughs is Local 3, on the island it's local 25.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Of course but read the dialogue and why I said unions were next. If you read the last post it would make zero sense.mickeyrat said:different entities entirely.
nothing prevents those affected members from joining a different local or reorganizing the disbanded local.
There aren't other competing locals.
then the nationals need to do for their members and recharter the disbanded with national oversight to start off or reconfigure the existing type specific locals.0 -
Please start a “All Things Union” thread. Please and thank you.tempo_n_groove said:
Getting off topic. We can discuss this in private if you feel the need to.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Actually it does. NY has different locals for specific things. If you are an operator doing buildings you are in 14. If you are an operator doing earthwork you are in 15. If you are an ornamental iron worker you are in 580. Electrical in the boroughs is Local 3, on the island it's local 25.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Of course but read the dialogue and why I said unions were next. If you read the last post it would make zero sense.mickeyrat said:different entities entirely.
nothing prevents those affected members from joining a different local or reorganizing the disbanded local.
There aren't other competing locals.
then the nationals need to do for their members and recharter the disbanded with national oversight to start off or reconfigure the existing type specific locals.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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It won't go far and won't have much traffic. I have zero interest in starting one.Halifax2TheMax said:
Please start a “All Things Union” thread. Please and thank you.tempo_n_groove said:
Getting off topic. We can discuss this in private if you feel the need to.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Actually it does. NY has different locals for specific things. If you are an operator doing buildings you are in 14. If you are an operator doing earthwork you are in 15. If you are an ornamental iron worker you are in 580. Electrical in the boroughs is Local 3, on the island it's local 25.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Of course but read the dialogue and why I said unions were next. If you read the last post it would make zero sense.mickeyrat said:different entities entirely.
nothing prevents those affected members from joining a different local or reorganizing the disbanded local.
There aren't other competing locals.
then the nationals need to do for their members and recharter the disbanded with national oversight to start off or reconfigure the existing type specific locals.0 -
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this is a first isnt it?Is Remington’s $33 Million Offer Enough to End Sandy Hook Massacre Case? https://nyti.ms/3BUsz9h
Is Remington’s $33 Million Offer Enough to End Sandy Hook Massacre Case?
Lawyers for families of those killed in the mass shooting say they are moving “full-steam ahead” after the company did not allow for full access to its internal documents.
Newtown, Conn., where 26 people, including 20 first graders, were killed in 2012 by a gunman armed with a Remington Bushmaster rifle. Credit...Ángel Franco/The New York TimesBy Rick Rojas and Kristin Hussey
July 29, 2021From the outset, legal experts said the case faced long odds, running headfirst into barriers that are built into federal law and protect gun companies from most litigation.
The case, brought by the families of those killed in the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, seeks to hold responsible the companies that made and sold the weapon used in the attack, in part by unearthing documents they hoped would reveal the gun industry’s inner workings.
The families acknowledged the hurdles they faced, but saw the lawsuit as a gamble worth taking.
Now, after winding through the courts for nearly seven years, the suit has yielded an offer: Remington, which made the AR-15-style Bushmaster that was used in the 2012 attack, has proposed settling with the families for $33 million as a trial date looms.
The company’s offer underscores the viability of the novel strategy the families have adopted to pierce the legal shield that guards gun makers, offering a potential road map to the survivors and relatives of victims involved in other mass shootings.
ADVERTISEMENTThe Sandy Hook plaintiffs are considering the offer, which includes $3.66 million apiece for each of the nine families who are pursuing the suit. But a lawyer for the families, Joshua D. Koskoff, added that his clients were still moving “full-steam ahead” toward trial.
The families have long said that they want a jury to see the company’s behind-the-scenes communications, including, possibly, those in which they outline plans for marketing the weapon — a central component of the suit.
“One glaring inadequacy about the offer, among many,” Mr. Koskoff said, “is that it doesn’t contain a provision for full access to all documents.” Any agreement would have to include that access, he added.
Lawyers for Remington, which is in bankruptcy, declined to comment on the offer. The company has previously argued that the claims raised by the families fall squarely within the protections provided by federal law, which the gun industry’s supporters described as a critical defense against predatory or politically driven lawsuits.
ADVERTISEMENTRemington’s lawyers have said the families are trying to obtain internal company documents without any justification to do so. In one recent court filing, the lawyers said the families’ suit did not contain any evidence that the gunman “even saw Remington’s advertisements — much less was inspired by them to commit mass murder.”
The case is being watched closely as the United States continues to be gripped by the anguish stirred by recurring mass shootings and the political rancor surrounding the ownership and use of guns. And the interest has only intensified through the many legal twists and turns the case has endured, surviving far longer than other litigation brought after a mass shooting.
The families argue that Remington marketed the assault rifle in a way that was meant to appeal to troubled young men like the 20-year-old who stormed into the elementary school in Newtown, Conn., killing 20 first graders and six adults in a spray of gunfire that saw 154 rounds fired off in under five minutes.
The suit seizes on an exception built into federal law that allows for litigation over sales and marketing practices that violate state or federal laws. The families contend that Remington’s practices violated a Connecticut consumer law that prohibited businesses from marketing or promoting their products in a way that encouraged illegal behavior.
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Interesting. I'd like to see what ad or ads in particular encouraged illegal behavior.
In this case, I don't really watch television but I don't think I have ever seen a commercial for anything that encouraged illegal behavior.If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
dudeman said:Interesting. I'd like to see what ad or ads in particular encouraged illegal behavior.
In this case, I don't really watch television but I don't think I have ever seen a commercial for anything that encouraged illegal behavior.these are the next couple paragraphs...The families’ lawyers have described how the Bushmaster was portrayed as a weapon of war with slogans and product placement in video games that invoked combat violence. The marketing of the rifle also employed hypermasculine themes, including an advertisement with a photograph of the weapon that said, “Consider your man card reissued.”
“Since this case was filed in 2014, the families’ focus has been on preventing the next Sandy Hook,” Mr. Koskoff said. “An important part of that goal has been showing banks and insurers that companies that sell assault weapons to civilians are fraught with financial risk.”
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wow. so the nra CAN be reasonable when they feel like it. who knew?Bentleyspop said:"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 said:
wow. so the nra CAN be reasonable when they feel like it. who knew?Bentleyspop said:
it doesnt involve guns directly. sooo yeah.
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memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140
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