#46 President Joe Biden
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The Juggler said:You went to an inside bar and didn't bring a mask?
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Ledbetterman10 said:No we had them in our pockets and would've put them on before walking in, if we couldn't see through the window about 20 people inside not wearing them. So the bartender asked us to put masks on, walked us 5 feet to a table that was like 5 feet away from the next table where people were maskless, and were told we can now take off our masks.0
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gvn2fly1421 said:This from his instagram page the same day he strolled to the podium, fully vaccinated, outdoors, by himself with no one even close to him.
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Ledbetterman10 said:I'm not trying to make a stand against masks. I just question some of the logistics of it all. Like on Saturday for instance, we try to go into a bar (in Pennsylvania), and didn't have masks on because you can see in the window that nobody in there was wearing one. But we were told we have to walk in with a mask, and then we can take it off when we're seated. And it's not like social-distancing was really in effect because there were guys at the bar all seated next to one another without masks on. Well that makes no sense.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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tbergs said:This has been the issue for months with bars and restaurants. It's no one elses fault, but the business owners. I get it, it's dumb, but only because the business doesnt give a shit.
The bar we were at just prior to that didn't require masks at all. Both were up in the sticks in northeast PA. My friend's bachelor party was at a lake house and then we went to these two bars. The first one, not a single person wore a mask (including bartenders). The second one, was the one I described above. The bartenders were wearing masks. Nobody else was once seated. And while I wasn't directly told to, I wore the mask to take a piss because I figured they'd want that.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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mrussel1 said:These are all compromise positions. Clearly the best situation is no indoor gatherings. Second is wear a mask. But you can't do that if eating/drinking so third compromise position is wear a mask inside and when moving around, at the bar and then take it off when ready to eat or drink. If you want the safest method, close the bar.
From that angle it makes perfect sense to me.0 -
The Juggler said:This instagram post was at 3:54pm. Gee....that appears to be well over two hours AFTER Joe took his mask off and walked back to the White House mask free. Let that sink in.
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Ledbetterman10 said:Yeah they didn't seem too eager to have us put on masks for five seconds before allowing us to take them off. But they've got to follow the rules I guess.
The bar we were at just prior to that didn't require masks at all. Both were up in the sticks in northeast PA. My friend's bachelor party was at a lake house and then we went to these two bars. The first one, not a single person wore a mask (including bartenders). The second one, was the one I described above. The bartenders were wearing masks. Nobody else was once seated. And while I wasn't directly told to, I wore the mask to take a piss because I figured they'd want that.
when me and my family or my wife go for a meal or a drink, we can take off our masks because our table is distanced. there is no sitting up at the bar. that is closed. only tables, at least 2 meters apart. you get up for any reason? you put on your mask. you wear your mask when you arrive and when you leave. when you and your moistness are moving about.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Merkin Baller said:Same, I look at it as a compromise between having people masked up as much as possible, but also giving the bars & restaurants a fighting chance.
From that angle it makes perfect sense to me.
At my office, there's eight of us. Seven of us got the vaccine, but one refused it. So we have to continue to wear masks in common areas because of her. We wouldn't have to wear them at all if we all had the vaccine. This may sound callous, but I say to hell with her. If she wants to run that risk, fine. It's like those of us that have done the responsible thing and got the vaccine are now required to keep the people that didn't get it safe.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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HughFreakingDillon said:how I view this is, you (and others) are criticizing the mandate because some those tasked with following them, aren't. like mrussell stated, there are compromises that have to be made; safety, economy, etc. it's all a balance.
when me and my family or my wife go for a meal or a drink, we can take off our masks because our table is distanced. there is no sitting up at the bar. that is closed. only tables, at least 2 meters apart. you get up for any reason? you put on your mask. you wear your mask when you arrive and when you leave. when you and your moistness are moving about.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
I just don't understand all these stories of establishments in the states not following the rules. everywhere I've been in winnipeg, it's been super clear what the rules are (and they can change every two to four weeks), and if you flagrantly run afoul, you get a huge fine. public health and the government outline the rules very explicitly in a press conference and then update the websites; they give you a deadline to implement any major changes, and then the rule is in place for a defined period of time.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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Ledbetterman10 said:I guess I'm of the opinion, now with the vaccine available to everyone, that these sort of establishments should be able to set their own rules. Want to require a mask? Go ahead. Want to not require a mask and put a sign up saying "Masks not required, enter at your own risk." Go ahead.
At my office, there's eight of us. Seven of us got the vaccine, but one refused it. So we have to continue to wear masks in common areas because of her. We wouldn't have to wear them at all if we all had the vaccine. This may sound callous, but I say to hell with her. If she wants to run that risk, fine. It's like those of us that have done the responsible thing and got the vaccine are now required to keep the people that didn't get it safe.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:so you'll have to wear masks until she dies or quits? that's absurd
The funny thing is that she herself thinks it's dumb that we have to continue to wear the masks because of her. But from the employer's perspective, I guess it's for liability reasons or something.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Ledbetterman10 said:I guess I'm of the opinion, now with the vaccine available to everyone, that these sort of establishments should be able to set their own rules. Want to require a mask? Go ahead. Want to not require a mask and put a sign up saying "Masks not required, enter at your own risk." Go ahead.
At my office, there's eight of us. Seven of us got the vaccine, but one refused it. So we have to continue to wear masks in common areas because of her. We wouldn't have to wear them at all if we all had the vaccine. This may sound callous, but I say to hell with her. If she wants to run that risk, fine. It's like those of us that have done the responsible thing and got the vaccine are now required to keep the people that didn't get it safe.
Restrictions are being eased. Not fast enough for some, I get it, but they are getting there. & in fairness, it's not like the vaccines have been widely available to everyone for months... it's only in the last 2 weeks or so that the vaccine became available to all adults here in MA... from this perspective I understand the easing of restrictions as opposed to a full blown opening. Once a few weeks pass, I'll firmly be in the camp of letting the businesses decide.
Your office situation sounds ridiculous, but OTOH, from an employer / liability standpoint I get it, especially if your state has a mask mandate.
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brianlux said:What is today? "Everybody's in the Same Boat Day"? I was just reading something on another forum where this guy claims that everyone that has such and such are all exactly the same.Come on static, you can do better than that weak argument. Some of us are actually capable of forming thoughts independently of such strictures.Scio me nihil scire
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mrussel1 said:Praying is the only remedy that's 100% effective. Oh yeah, and the rhythm method.Scio me nihil scire
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mrussel1 said:I think it's fucking stupid. If someone wants to wear a mask, good for you. Why do I care?
And how do you know there is clearly no one within 50 feet? Is there an omni camera that I didn't see?
And I don't really care, just seems odd to me. Just like when I see someone driving alone in a car and they have a mask on jogging in the street or walking their dog. Still comes across as odd to me. No one came across as complaining or even caring, just commenting that it seems odd and pointless.0 -
mace1229 said:You can see no one is anywhere near him in the video. He walks down the walkway and clearly no one is anywhere close to him. You just have to watch the clip to know he's alone.
And I don't really care, just seems odd to me. Just like when I see someone driving alone in a car and they have a mask on jogging in the street or walking their dog. Still comes across as odd to me. No one came across as complaining or even caring, just commenting that it seems odd and pointless.0
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