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Conservatives do care about the 1st amendment. See "capitol storming", lol.Merkin Baller said:tempo_n_groove said:
I'll play devils advocate on this and ask a few questions.Merkin Baller said:Hey conservatives, does this count as cancel culture? Or does cancel culture only apply to shitty celebrities facing consequences for their own stupidity?Asking on behalf of our first amendment and 330M of my fellow countrymen.
If I am in my car and I get swarmed by a mob and they start banging on my windows trying to get at me and or my family, fearing for my life I run through them to flee, is this what that law is protecting?
If you protest in an area but you decide to create some carnage, is that what this is going after?
My guess would be that it is to protect peoples possession's and well being? I can see it easily being misconstrued and the race card played.
Regarding your first question: are you swarmed by a mob, or are you trying to drive your car through a mob of people who were there when you got there? Sounds like a pretty specific scenario...If I was driving up the road and came across a protest, I would turn the F around. Like the whole "Stand your ground" law, this legislation if accurately described, could lead to people thinking they're entitled to / protected if they plow through a crowd.
I have never once defended people rioting or looting which I infer you mean when you say "carnage", I'm in favor of prosecuting anyone who loots or destroys property to the fullest extent of the law. There is a difference between protesting and rioting, I trust you agree with me on that.
With all that being said:
Who decides when a protest becomes an unlawful assembly? The penalties being suggested are pretty serious and can have some long lasting repercussions. To me it feels like they're trying to deter people from protesting, which is as much our right as the freedom of speech, which I thought we all cared about.
I'm waiting for conservatives to start fretting as much about the 1st amendment as they do about the 2nd, and it just isn't happening... did you see how the Brooklyn Center police treated the reporters in the last week?
I'm waiting for conservative to start caring as much about these matters as they do a fucking Dr Seuss book.
I'm not holding my breath.
First question. No, you can't "drive your car through a mob." Sometimes you can't just turn around though and there is when it gets dicey.
2nd question. Carnage is just that. You can protest and assemble, by all means do. You pick up a rock and throw it at someone, something? That is carnage. Enter a store to loot or steal? Carnage. It's a pretty easy thing to establish. If I catch you inside of a building trespassing, pretty much a closed case.
I defend police when I think it needs be. They are being constantly yelled at, for something that many of them have zero to do with. With one broad stroke the whole police force is labeled. You think I'm taking any shit from someone whom antagonizes or may want to do harm to me? No way. Those officers are on edge right now.0 -
yeah well, they fit a description.tempo_n_groove said:
Conservatives do care about the 1st amendment. See "capitol storming", lol.Merkin Baller said:tempo_n_groove said:
I'll play devils advocate on this and ask a few questions.Merkin Baller said:Hey conservatives, does this count as cancel culture? Or does cancel culture only apply to shitty celebrities facing consequences for their own stupidity?Asking on behalf of our first amendment and 330M of my fellow countrymen.
If I am in my car and I get swarmed by a mob and they start banging on my windows trying to get at me and or my family, fearing for my life I run through them to flee, is this what that law is protecting?
If you protest in an area but you decide to create some carnage, is that what this is going after?
My guess would be that it is to protect peoples possession's and well being? I can see it easily being misconstrued and the race card played.
Regarding your first question: are you swarmed by a mob, or are you trying to drive your car through a mob of people who were there when you got there? Sounds like a pretty specific scenario...If I was driving up the road and came across a protest, I would turn the F around. Like the whole "Stand your ground" law, this legislation if accurately described, could lead to people thinking they're entitled to / protected if they plow through a crowd.
I have never once defended people rioting or looting which I infer you mean when you say "carnage", I'm in favor of prosecuting anyone who loots or destroys property to the fullest extent of the law. There is a difference between protesting and rioting, I trust you agree with me on that.
With all that being said:
Who decides when a protest becomes an unlawful assembly? The penalties being suggested are pretty serious and can have some long lasting repercussions. To me it feels like they're trying to deter people from protesting, which is as much our right as the freedom of speech, which I thought we all cared about.
I'm waiting for conservatives to start fretting as much about the 1st amendment as they do about the 2nd, and it just isn't happening... did you see how the Brooklyn Center police treated the reporters in the last week?
I'm waiting for conservative to start caring as much about these matters as they do a fucking Dr Seuss book.
I'm not holding my breath.
First question. No, you can't "drive your car through a mob." Sometimes you can't just turn around though and there is when it gets dicey.
2nd question. Carnage is just that. You can protest and assemble, by all means do. You pick up a rock and throw it at someone, something? That is carnage. Enter a store to loot or steal? Carnage. It's a pretty easy thing to establish. If I catch you inside of a building trespassing, pretty much a closed case.
I defend police when I think it needs be. They are being constantly yelled at, for something that many of them have zero to do with. With one broad stroke the whole police force is labeled. You think I'm taking any shit from someone whom antagonizes or may want to do harm to me? No way. Those officers are on edge right now.
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unfortunately when these laws are written regarding peaceful assembly/protest, it is very subjective when the police are allowed to step in. all they have to do is say they felt it getting out of hand/hostile, and boom, assembly turns into a riot.tempo_n_groove said:
Conservatives do care about the 1st amendment. See "capitol storming", lol.Merkin Baller said:tempo_n_groove said:
I'll play devils advocate on this and ask a few questions.Merkin Baller said:Hey conservatives, does this count as cancel culture? Or does cancel culture only apply to shitty celebrities facing consequences for their own stupidity?Asking on behalf of our first amendment and 330M of my fellow countrymen.
If I am in my car and I get swarmed by a mob and they start banging on my windows trying to get at me and or my family, fearing for my life I run through them to flee, is this what that law is protecting?
If you protest in an area but you decide to create some carnage, is that what this is going after?
My guess would be that it is to protect peoples possession's and well being? I can see it easily being misconstrued and the race card played.
Regarding your first question: are you swarmed by a mob, or are you trying to drive your car through a mob of people who were there when you got there? Sounds like a pretty specific scenario...If I was driving up the road and came across a protest, I would turn the F around. Like the whole "Stand your ground" law, this legislation if accurately described, could lead to people thinking they're entitled to / protected if they plow through a crowd.
I have never once defended people rioting or looting which I infer you mean when you say "carnage", I'm in favor of prosecuting anyone who loots or destroys property to the fullest extent of the law. There is a difference between protesting and rioting, I trust you agree with me on that.
With all that being said:
Who decides when a protest becomes an unlawful assembly? The penalties being suggested are pretty serious and can have some long lasting repercussions. To me it feels like they're trying to deter people from protesting, which is as much our right as the freedom of speech, which I thought we all cared about.
I'm waiting for conservatives to start fretting as much about the 1st amendment as they do about the 2nd, and it just isn't happening... did you see how the Brooklyn Center police treated the reporters in the last week?
I'm waiting for conservative to start caring as much about these matters as they do a fucking Dr Seuss book.
I'm not holding my breath.
First question. No, you can't "drive your car through a mob." Sometimes you can't just turn around though and there is when it gets dicey.
2nd question. Carnage is just that. You can protest and assemble, by all means do. You pick up a rock and throw it at someone, something? That is carnage. Enter a store to loot or steal? Carnage. It's a pretty easy thing to establish. If I catch you inside of a building trespassing, pretty much a closed case.
I defend police when I think it needs be. They are being constantly yelled at, for something that many of them have zero to do with. With one broad stroke the whole police force is labeled. You think I'm taking any shit from someone whom antagonizes or may want to do harm to me? No way. Those officers are on edge right now.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
tempo_n_groove said:
Conservatives do care about the 1st amendment. See "capitol storming", lol. - you mean when they stormed the capitol building and assaulted police, damaged the building and smeared feces on the walls in an effort to overthrow our democracy? That was carnage bro, lolMerkin Baller said:tempo_n_groove said:
I'll play devils advocate on this and ask a few questions.Merkin Baller said:Hey conservatives, does this count as cancel culture? Or does cancel culture only apply to shitty celebrities facing consequences for their own stupidity?Asking on behalf of our first amendment and 330M of my fellow countrymen.
If I am in my car and I get swarmed by a mob and they start banging on my windows trying to get at me and or my family, fearing for my life I run through them to flee, is this what that law is protecting?
If you protest in an area but you decide to create some carnage, is that what this is going after?
My guess would be that it is to protect peoples possession's and well being? I can see it easily being misconstrued and the race card played.
Regarding your first question: are you swarmed by a mob, or are you trying to drive your car through a mob of people who were there when you got there? Sounds like a pretty specific scenario...If I was driving up the road and came across a protest, I would turn the F around. Like the whole "Stand your ground" law, this legislation if accurately described, could lead to people thinking they're entitled to / protected if they plow through a crowd.
I have never once defended people rioting or looting which I infer you mean when you say "carnage", I'm in favor of prosecuting anyone who loots or destroys property to the fullest extent of the law. There is a difference between protesting and rioting, I trust you agree with me on that.
With all that being said:
Who decides when a protest becomes an unlawful assembly? The penalties being suggested are pretty serious and can have some long lasting repercussions. To me it feels like they're trying to deter people from protesting, which is as much our right as the freedom of speech, which I thought we all cared about.
I'm waiting for conservatives to start fretting as much about the 1st amendment as they do about the 2nd, and it just isn't happening... did you see how the Brooklyn Center police treated the reporters in the last week?
I'm waiting for conservative to start caring as much about these matters as they do a fucking Dr Seuss book.
I'm not holding my breath.
First question. No, you can't "drive your car through a mob." Sometimes you can't just turn around though and there is when it gets dicey. - see my "stand your ground" comment above
2nd question. Carnage is just that. You can protest and assemble, by all means do. You pick up a rock and throw it at someone, something? That is carnage. Enter a store to loot or steal? Carnage. It's a pretty easy thing to establish. If I catch you inside of a building trespassing, pretty much a closed case. - we're on the same page here
I defend police when I think it needs be. They are being constantly yelled at, for something that many of them have zero to do with. With one broad stroke the whole police force is labeled. You think I'm taking any shit from someone whom antagonizes or may want to do harm to me? No way. Those officers are on edge right now. - the entire country is on edge - it's literally their duty to uphold the law regardless of circumstances
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Or do what NYC did and let them run free in the streets.HughFreakingDillon said:
unfortunately when these laws are written regarding peaceful assembly/protest, it is very subjective when the police are allowed to step in. all they have to do is say they felt it getting out of hand/hostile, and boom, assembly turns into a riot.tempo_n_groove said:
Conservatives do care about the 1st amendment. See "capitol storming", lol.Merkin Baller said:tempo_n_groove said:
I'll play devils advocate on this and ask a few questions.Merkin Baller said:Hey conservatives, does this count as cancel culture? Or does cancel culture only apply to shitty celebrities facing consequences for their own stupidity?Asking on behalf of our first amendment and 330M of my fellow countrymen.
If I am in my car and I get swarmed by a mob and they start banging on my windows trying to get at me and or my family, fearing for my life I run through them to flee, is this what that law is protecting?
If you protest in an area but you decide to create some carnage, is that what this is going after?
My guess would be that it is to protect peoples possession's and well being? I can see it easily being misconstrued and the race card played.
Regarding your first question: are you swarmed by a mob, or are you trying to drive your car through a mob of people who were there when you got there? Sounds like a pretty specific scenario...If I was driving up the road and came across a protest, I would turn the F around. Like the whole "Stand your ground" law, this legislation if accurately described, could lead to people thinking they're entitled to / protected if they plow through a crowd.
I have never once defended people rioting or looting which I infer you mean when you say "carnage", I'm in favor of prosecuting anyone who loots or destroys property to the fullest extent of the law. There is a difference between protesting and rioting, I trust you agree with me on that.
With all that being said:
Who decides when a protest becomes an unlawful assembly? The penalties being suggested are pretty serious and can have some long lasting repercussions. To me it feels like they're trying to deter people from protesting, which is as much our right as the freedom of speech, which I thought we all cared about.
I'm waiting for conservatives to start fretting as much about the 1st amendment as they do about the 2nd, and it just isn't happening... did you see how the Brooklyn Center police treated the reporters in the last week?
I'm waiting for conservative to start caring as much about these matters as they do a fucking Dr Seuss book.
I'm not holding my breath.
First question. No, you can't "drive your car through a mob." Sometimes you can't just turn around though and there is when it gets dicey.
2nd question. Carnage is just that. You can protest and assemble, by all means do. You pick up a rock and throw it at someone, something? That is carnage. Enter a store to loot or steal? Carnage. It's a pretty easy thing to establish. If I catch you inside of a building trespassing, pretty much a closed case.
I defend police when I think it needs be. They are being constantly yelled at, for something that many of them have zero to do with. With one broad stroke the whole police force is labeled. You think I'm taking any shit from someone whom antagonizes or may want to do harm to me? No way. Those officers are on edge right now.
The local business' all bordered up their buildings because police were told NOT to intervene.
The protesters currently are at odds with the very people that are supposed to be keeping the peace. Talk about a conundrum.
Civil leaders should be talking to both protestor and police brass and beat cops. It doesn't appear that this happens in a positive fashion at all and people just want their pictures taken. Am I wrong on that?0 -
The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
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Same.Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
I'm still waiting for the Laker victory like rioting to happen.
I imagine there were a lot of disappointed people last night.0 -
Tucker was trying to fill that void as best he could though. Lots of couch potatoes getting their fill of white rage last night.Merkin Baller said:
Same.Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
I'm still waiting for the Laker victory like rioting to happen.
I imagine there were a lot of disappointed people last night.
It's a hopeless situation...0 -
I'm glad I was wrong and that no riots happened.Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
I'm still waiting for the Laker victory like rioting to happen.
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Wow. They fit a description? Is that ok when it’s they other way around? Shit.mickeyrat said:
yeah well, they fit a description.tempo_n_groove said:
Conservatives do care about the 1st amendment. See "capitol storming", lol.Merkin Baller said:tempo_n_groove said:
I'll play devils advocate on this and ask a few questions.Merkin Baller said:Hey conservatives, does this count as cancel culture? Or does cancel culture only apply to shitty celebrities facing consequences for their own stupidity?Asking on behalf of our first amendment and 330M of my fellow countrymen.
If I am in my car and I get swarmed by a mob and they start banging on my windows trying to get at me and or my family, fearing for my life I run through them to flee, is this what that law is protecting?
If you protest in an area but you decide to create some carnage, is that what this is going after?
My guess would be that it is to protect peoples possession's and well being? I can see it easily being misconstrued and the race card played.
Regarding your first question: are you swarmed by a mob, or are you trying to drive your car through a mob of people who were there when you got there? Sounds like a pretty specific scenario...If I was driving up the road and came across a protest, I would turn the F around. Like the whole "Stand your ground" law, this legislation if accurately described, could lead to people thinking they're entitled to / protected if they plow through a crowd.
I have never once defended people rioting or looting which I infer you mean when you say "carnage", I'm in favor of prosecuting anyone who loots or destroys property to the fullest extent of the law. There is a difference between protesting and rioting, I trust you agree with me on that.
With all that being said:
Who decides when a protest becomes an unlawful assembly? The penalties being suggested are pretty serious and can have some long lasting repercussions. To me it feels like they're trying to deter people from protesting, which is as much our right as the freedom of speech, which I thought we all cared about.
I'm waiting for conservatives to start fretting as much about the 1st amendment as they do about the 2nd, and it just isn't happening... did you see how the Brooklyn Center police treated the reporters in the last week?
I'm waiting for conservative to start caring as much about these matters as they do a fucking Dr Seuss book.
I'm not holding my breath.
First question. No, you can't "drive your car through a mob." Sometimes you can't just turn around though and there is when it gets dicey.
2nd question. Carnage is just that. You can protest and assemble, by all means do. You pick up a rock and throw it at someone, something? That is carnage. Enter a store to loot or steal? Carnage. It's a pretty easy thing to establish. If I catch you inside of a building trespassing, pretty much a closed case.
I defend police when I think it needs be. They are being constantly yelled at, for something that many of them have zero to do with. With one broad stroke the whole police force is labeled. You think I'm taking any shit from someone whom antagonizes or may want to do harm to me? No way. Those officers are on edge right now.0 -
Happy to be wrong on that as well. Who the fuck would root for that to happen?Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
I'm still waiting for the Laker victory like rioting to happen.0 -
Some posters on here. Kyle Rittenhouse types.nicknyr15 said:
Happy to be wrong on that as well. Who the fuck would root for that to happen?Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
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I don’t think anyone here wanted that. I do believe there are some far right loonies who would have loved to see it though. That’s for sure. I think it’s huge to get the conviction AND have legitimate peaceful demonstrations through the night. A very good sign.Halifax2TheMax said:
Some posters on here. Kyle Rittenhouse types.nicknyr15 said:
Happy to be wrong on that as well. Who the fuck would root for that to happen?Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
I'm still waiting for the Laker victory like rioting to happen.0 -
that's the point. the general excuse used for harassing POC is that "they fit a description". turnabout is fair play, as Gorilla Monsoon used to say.nicknyr15 said:
Wow. They fit a description? Is that ok when it’s they other way around? Shit.mickeyrat said:
yeah well, they fit a description.tempo_n_groove said:
Conservatives do care about the 1st amendment. See "capitol storming", lol.Merkin Baller said:tempo_n_groove said:
I'll play devils advocate on this and ask a few questions.Merkin Baller said:Hey conservatives, does this count as cancel culture? Or does cancel culture only apply to shitty celebrities facing consequences for their own stupidity?Asking on behalf of our first amendment and 330M of my fellow countrymen.
If I am in my car and I get swarmed by a mob and they start banging on my windows trying to get at me and or my family, fearing for my life I run through them to flee, is this what that law is protecting?
If you protest in an area but you decide to create some carnage, is that what this is going after?
My guess would be that it is to protect peoples possession's and well being? I can see it easily being misconstrued and the race card played.
Regarding your first question: are you swarmed by a mob, or are you trying to drive your car through a mob of people who were there when you got there? Sounds like a pretty specific scenario...If I was driving up the road and came across a protest, I would turn the F around. Like the whole "Stand your ground" law, this legislation if accurately described, could lead to people thinking they're entitled to / protected if they plow through a crowd.
I have never once defended people rioting or looting which I infer you mean when you say "carnage", I'm in favor of prosecuting anyone who loots or destroys property to the fullest extent of the law. There is a difference between protesting and rioting, I trust you agree with me on that.
With all that being said:
Who decides when a protest becomes an unlawful assembly? The penalties being suggested are pretty serious and can have some long lasting repercussions. To me it feels like they're trying to deter people from protesting, which is as much our right as the freedom of speech, which I thought we all cared about.
I'm waiting for conservatives to start fretting as much about the 1st amendment as they do about the 2nd, and it just isn't happening... did you see how the Brooklyn Center police treated the reporters in the last week?
I'm waiting for conservative to start caring as much about these matters as they do a fucking Dr Seuss book.
I'm not holding my breath.
First question. No, you can't "drive your car through a mob." Sometimes you can't just turn around though and there is when it gets dicey.
2nd question. Carnage is just that. You can protest and assemble, by all means do. You pick up a rock and throw it at someone, something? That is carnage. Enter a store to loot or steal? Carnage. It's a pretty easy thing to establish. If I catch you inside of a building trespassing, pretty much a closed case.
I defend police when I think it needs be. They are being constantly yelled at, for something that many of them have zero to do with. With one broad stroke the whole police force is labeled. You think I'm taking any shit from someone whom antagonizes or may want to do harm to me? No way. Those officers are on edge right now.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
After I typed that I figured it was said on purpose to prove a point. My apologies. I took it literally upon first read. @mickeyrat.HughFreakingDillon said:
that's the point. the general excuse used for harassing POC is that "they fit a description". turnabout is fair play, as Gorilla Monsoon used to say.nicknyr15 said:
Wow. They fit a description? Is that ok when it’s they other way around? Shit.mickeyrat said:
yeah well, they fit a description.tempo_n_groove said:
Conservatives do care about the 1st amendment. See "capitol storming", lol.Merkin Baller said:tempo_n_groove said:
I'll play devils advocate on this and ask a few questions.Merkin Baller said:Hey conservatives, does this count as cancel culture? Or does cancel culture only apply to shitty celebrities facing consequences for their own stupidity?Asking on behalf of our first amendment and 330M of my fellow countrymen.
If I am in my car and I get swarmed by a mob and they start banging on my windows trying to get at me and or my family, fearing for my life I run through them to flee, is this what that law is protecting?
If you protest in an area but you decide to create some carnage, is that what this is going after?
My guess would be that it is to protect peoples possession's and well being? I can see it easily being misconstrued and the race card played.
Regarding your first question: are you swarmed by a mob, or are you trying to drive your car through a mob of people who were there when you got there? Sounds like a pretty specific scenario...If I was driving up the road and came across a protest, I would turn the F around. Like the whole "Stand your ground" law, this legislation if accurately described, could lead to people thinking they're entitled to / protected if they plow through a crowd.
I have never once defended people rioting or looting which I infer you mean when you say "carnage", I'm in favor of prosecuting anyone who loots or destroys property to the fullest extent of the law. There is a difference between protesting and rioting, I trust you agree with me on that.
With all that being said:
Who decides when a protest becomes an unlawful assembly? The penalties being suggested are pretty serious and can have some long lasting repercussions. To me it feels like they're trying to deter people from protesting, which is as much our right as the freedom of speech, which I thought we all cared about.
I'm waiting for conservatives to start fretting as much about the 1st amendment as they do about the 2nd, and it just isn't happening... did you see how the Brooklyn Center police treated the reporters in the last week?
I'm waiting for conservative to start caring as much about these matters as they do a fucking Dr Seuss book.
I'm not holding my breath.
First question. No, you can't "drive your car through a mob." Sometimes you can't just turn around though and there is when it gets dicey.
2nd question. Carnage is just that. You can protest and assemble, by all means do. You pick up a rock and throw it at someone, something? That is carnage. Enter a store to loot or steal? Carnage. It's a pretty easy thing to establish. If I catch you inside of a building trespassing, pretty much a closed case.
I defend police when I think it needs be. They are being constantly yelled at, for something that many of them have zero to do with. With one broad stroke the whole police force is labeled. You think I'm taking any shit from someone whom antagonizes or may want to do harm to me? No way. Those officers are on edge right now.0 -
I don't think anyone here wanted riots/looting. I certainly didn'tHalifax2TheMax said:
Some posters on here. Kyle Rittenhouse types.nicknyr15 said:
Happy to be wrong on that as well. Who the fuck would root for that to happen?Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
I'm still waiting for the Laker victory like rioting to happen.
I also don't think those who just looted in the summer were really trying to advance any cause, but saw an excuse for a new TV and some new shoes. It would not have surprised me if those same people used another excuse to do it again. I'm glad I was wrong.
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I want names.Halifax2TheMax said:
Some posters on here. Kyle Rittenhouse types.nicknyr15 said:
Happy to be wrong on that as well. Who the fuck would root for that to happen?Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
I'm still waiting for the Laker victory like rioting to happen.
You make a statement like that and don't have backup?
Name names please. I'd love to hear this.0 -
Pay attention to the postings and figure it out. Some folks on here get giddy, depending.tempo_n_groove said:
I want names.Halifax2TheMax said:
Some posters on here. Kyle Rittenhouse types.nicknyr15 said:
Happy to be wrong on that as well. Who the fuck would root for that to happen?Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
I'm still waiting for the Laker victory like rioting to happen.
You make a statement like that and don't have backup?
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I don't read everything on AMT soI don't know.Halifax2TheMax said:
Pay attention to the postings and figure it out. Some folks on here get giddy, depending.tempo_n_groove said:
I want names.Halifax2TheMax said:
Some posters on here. Kyle Rittenhouse types.nicknyr15 said:
Happy to be wrong on that as well. Who the fuck would root for that to happen?Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
I'm still waiting for the Laker victory like rioting to happen.
You make a statement like that and don't have backup?
Name names please. I'd love to hear this.
It was a bold statement Cotton, I was hoping for some pudding to eat w your proof though...
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Cute. Claim ignorance. Or is it “plausible deniability?”tempo_n_groove said:
I don't read everything on AMT soI don't know.Halifax2TheMax said:
Pay attention to the postings and figure it out. Some folks on here get giddy, depending.tempo_n_groove said:
I want names.Halifax2TheMax said:
Some posters on here. Kyle Rittenhouse types.nicknyr15 said:
Happy to be wrong on that as well. Who the fuck would root for that to happen?Halifax2TheMax said:The police and gun owners are the same in that they bear no responsibility, think they're doing everything right and want all the responsibility for change to be on the public and pro-gun control crowd, in effect, just comply. Upholding the law doesn't include violating constitutional rights.
I'm still waiting for the Laker victory like rioting to happen.
You make a statement like that and don't have backup?
Name names please. I'd love to hear this.
It was a bold statement Cotton, I was hoping for some pudding to eat w your proof though...
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